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Trump Aims To Take Back Power Sequestered by 9/11?
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In the below article Thierry Meyssan argues that Trump's main purpose is to take back control of the levers of power from the Neocons who stole it in the wake of 9/11 to advance their ambition of advancing globalization.

If he is correct in his analysis on this - and I suspect he may be - then good luck to him and good riddance to them --- globalization has been a fucking awful tragedy that has seen 8 men accumulate the gross wealth of half the world.

Quote:WILL THE UNITED STATES REGAIN THEIR FREEDOM?


Trump enough of 9/11!


by Thierry Meyssan


Donald Trump refused to don the Presidential uniform of his predecessors, and dedicated his speech of investiture to mocking the System and announcing a change of paradigm. He has built his Security team around two themes the eradication of Daesh and the opposition to 11 September two characteristics which are aimed at putting an end to the process of globalisation.


VOLTAIRE NETWORK | DAMASCUS (SYRIA) | 24 JANUARY 2017


[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8913&stc=1]


President Donald Trump was invested on 20 January 2017. Although he had just sworn his oath, and therefore had not had the time to do anything either for good or for evil, on the very next day, Hillary Clinton's sponsors organised a gigantic demonstration against him in Washington.


As proof that what is at stake here does not concern only the United States, identical demonstrations were staged in numerous countries, particularly in the United Kingdom. Of course, the demonstrators were not reacting to any particular act, but simply expressing their fears. Outside the US, many of them carried signs reading - «I'm terrified».


Donald Trump, whose adversaries portray him as an unpredictable character without any clear guide-line, has been indicating for a long time what he intends to do. He first of all demonstrated, then explained, first by allusion and then quite clearly he intends to give back to the American People the Power that was confiscated on 11 September 2001 [1].


Even before he took his place in the electoral campaign, Donald Trump had attempted to open the file on this usurped Power by sponsoring the movement for the truth about the birth of President Barack Obama [2]. He showed, basing his argument on the testimony of the President's grandmother, then on the absence of registration in the Hawaï records, then again on the irregularities in the official certificate, that Obama was born a subject of the British Crown in Kenya.


And yet, during the electoral campaign, once he had realised that he had a chance of winning, he closed the file and abstained from any provocation against the President. He stopped making any allusion to the diarchy of Power. However, he did concentrate his message on the usurpation of real Power by a small exclusive group for whom Hillary Clinton is the visible spokeswoman.


His positions, which make no sense at all in terms of the traditional political differences, whether concerning foreign policy is he an interventionist or an isolationist? - or the economy is he a free-trader or a protectionist? - are on the contrary perfectly clear to those who are suffering from the usurpation of Power [3].


He has never stopped repeating, clearly enough so that he is supported by his compatriots, but allusively enough to avoid head-on conflict, that all the decisions taken since 9/11 are illegitimate. This has nothing to do with the antagonism between Republicans and Democrats, since these decisions were approved by the Republican Bush Jr. and the Democrat Obama. On the contrary, it has to do with an ancient cleavage in civilisation between the caste who closed their eyes to 9/11, and those who were crushed by it, between the adepts of Mayflower Puritanism and the adepts of Freedom [4].


Contrary to his predecessors, he wrote his speech of investiture himself, and centred it around this - «Today's ceremony has a very particular meaning, because it is not simply the transfer of power from one administration to another. (…) What really matters is not who has the power in government, but the fact that the government is in the hands of the American People» [5].


[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8914&stc=1]


As from the first day, and contrary to US tradition, he set up a National Security team composed of notable soldiers - Generals James Mattis, John Kelly and Michaël Flynn. Despite the fact that the Press presents them as an incoherent grab-bag of personalities chosen independently of one another, he has in truth chosen them to take back the Power confiscated by a faction of the military-industrial complex.


The new Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, was confirmed by the Senate and has been sworn in. He is considered by his peers as a learned man and one of the best strategists of his generation. During the electoral campaign, he had been asked to present himself, in the name of the Republican party, to run against Trump. He hesitated for a moment, having discovered the dark side of politics in Washington, then retired from the competition without explanation [6]. His return was warmly welcomed by the army, particularly since two thirds of the military had voted for Donald Trump. Over the last two years, Mattis was a researcher at the Hoover Institution (a Republican think-tank based at Stanford University). He pursued his studies on the relations between civilians and the military, which attests to his will to place the armed forces back in service of the People.


When he arrived at the Pentagon, Mattis distributed a short Memorandum in which he affirmed that «the military and the Intelligence agencies are the sentinels and guardians of the Nation» - a phrase which is aimed at soothing the conflict concerning Russia which opposes Trump and the outgoing director of the CIA, John O. Brennan - and at re-orienting the work of the security forces towards the defence of the Nation, rather than the pursuit of an imperial fantasy or the protection of the interests of multinational companies [7].


Since the director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, is still waiting for his confirmation by Congress, President Trump went to the CIA himself. While they talked of one thing and another, he clearly set the course - «to eradicate Islamic terrorism from the surface of the Earth» [8]. He seems to be aware of the debates that have shaken the Agency over the last four years about the folly of supporting Daesh debates which earned his National Security advisor, General Michaël Flynn, his post as director of Military Intelligence. Trump made no mention of the controversy about alleged Russian interference in the US electoral campaign, and even less about the rôle of «Russian agents» that the Press had attributed to his ex-campaign director, Paul Manafort, and two other of his advisors, Carter Page and Roger Stone.


In the absence of Pompeo, the President did not touch on the question of the structural reform of the CIA. General Mattis's Memorandum, the presence of General Flynn by Trump's side, and the way in which he had praised Pompeo a brilliant student of the military academy of West Point give the impression that this new team intends to place the CIA in the orbit of the Pentagon rather than that of the Secretary of State an option which is aimed at reducing the possibilities for intervention by Hillary Clinton, still influential in her ex- Secretariat.


Donald Trump has asked about fifty members of the Obama administration to remain at their posts. Among them -
- Brett McGurk, special envoy to the anti-Daesh Coalition;
- Adam Szubin, under-Secretary of the Treasury tasked with fighting the financing of terrorism;
- Nicholas J. Rasmussen, director of the National Counter-Terrorism Centre;
- Dab Kern, special Chief of Staff for the White House.


It therefore seems that the White House wants to dispose of a team with the means of fighting Daesh.


The inter-service Chief of Staff, General Joe Dunford, has announced that he is ready to present to President Trump various options for attacking Daesh. One of them consists of taking al-Raqqah with 23,000 Arab mercenaries who have already been trained by the Pentagon. Dunford was in Paris on 16 January, where he presided a meeting of the Coalition Chiefs of Staff.


Whatever Donald Trump decides, he will have to take into account the fact that the Caliphate has been heavily armed by the Obama administration. Besides this, Daesh disposes of an experience in combat which the Pentagon's new mercenaries do not have. Also, before attacking al-Raqqah, he will have to decide which future he wants to favour in Iraq and in Syria.


President Trump has named his National Security Advisor, General John Kelly, who has been confirmed by the Senate and has assumed his functions. According to the US Press - usually an untrustworthy source of information, to be taken with great precaution this ex-CEO of SouthCom was chosen for his knowledge of the Mexican border and the stakes involved. Maybe.


However, there may be another reason for this choice - Kelly was Mattis's assistant in Iraq. In 2003, both of them entered into conflict with Paul Bremer III, the boss of the Coalition Provisional Authority - which, contrary to what the title might suggest, did not depend on the Coalition, but on the men who organised 9/11 [9]. They also opposed the civil war that John Negroponte had decided to organise in order to head the Iraqi Resistance away from fighting the Occupier, by creating the Islamic Emirate in Iraq (future Daesh). On the contrary, Mattis & Kelly attempted to honour the heads of the tribes of central Iraq in order to no longer be perceived as occupiers. They sought the help of the head of US Military Intelligence in Iraq, Michaël Flynn. The three men finally submitted to the orders of the White House.


General Michaël Flynn was nominated as Donald Trump's National SecurityAdvisor. Since this post had not been approved by the Senate, he immediately assumed his functions. We have already presented this man as the defender of the United States as a Nation, and as such, as the principal opponent of the use of Islamic terrorism by the CIA [10].


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Seeking any way they could of diminishing his authority, Hillary Clinton and her campaign director John Podesta started a rumour that he or his son, Michaël Flynn Jr., were unable to keep their mouths shut, and had helped us write an article on the reform of Intelligence [11]. In case this charge would not be enough, they used one of Michaël Jr's Tweets, which linked to one of our articles, to accuse the two men of «conspirationism» - in other words, seeking the truth about the events of 9/11 [12].


Contrary to what the US Press pretends, Generals Flynn, Mattis & Kelly have known each other for a long time, and serve the same objective which does not mean that relations between them are always easy. Only senior officers of this status are capable of helping President Donald Trump to take back the Power that has been usurped since 11 September 2001. In order to succeed, they will have to clean out the Pentagon, CIA and the international institutions which have been corrupted - NATO, the European Union and the UNO.


The millions of people who demonstrated against President Donald Trump were right to howl their fear. Not that the new inhabitant of the White House is a misogynist, a racist and a homophobe which he is not but because we are approaching a moment when the knots will be untied. It is more than probable that the usurped Power structure will not allow itself to be unravelled without reacting.


This confrontation will not take place in the Middle East this time, but in the West, and particularly in the United States.


Thierry Meyssan
Translation
Pete Kimberley


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[1] L'Effroyable Imposture suivi de Le Pentagate, par Thierry Meyssan, Editions Demi-Lune, première édition 2003. English Version : 9/11 The Big Lie, and Pentagate, by Thierry Meyssan, Carnot, 2002.


[2] « La Cour suprême appelée à suspendre l'élection de Barack Obama », "In 1979, Obama was considered a foreigner by the U.S. Adminitration", "Barack Obama's false birth certificate released on White House website", Voltaire Network, 9 décembre 2008, 17 February 2010, and 6 May 2011.


[3] "15 years of crime", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Voltaire Network, 15 September 2016.


[4] "United States reformation or fracture?", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Voltaire Network, 26 October 2016.


[5] "Donald Trump Inauguration Speech", by Donald Trump, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[6] "Mattis versus Trump", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Al-Watan (Syria) , Voltaire Network, 3 May 2016.


[7] "James Mattis Memo", by James Mattis, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[8] "Donald Trump at CIA Headquaters", by Donald Trump, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[9] "Who Rules Iraq?", by Thierry Meyssan, speech at the International Conference of Solidarity with the Iraqi Resistance, Voltaire Network, 13 May 2004.


[10] "Michael T. Flynn and Islam", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Al-Watan (Syria) , Voltaire Network, 22 November 2016.


[11] "General Flynn's Proposals to Reform Intelligence", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Contralínea (Mexico) , Voltaire Network, 1 December 2016.


[12] "Podesta & Clinton against Flynn", Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Voltaire Network, 19 January 2017.
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English translation of the link in footnote 1 HERE.


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Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Extremely interesting article David. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. That is one swamp that needs to be drained.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Extremely interesting article David. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. That is one swamp that needs to be drained.

I have every confidence an enormous Chinese Dong would do the job nicely.
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Paul Rigby Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Extremely interesting article David. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. That is one swamp that needs to be drained.

I have every confidence an enormous Chinese Dong would do the job nicely.

Ah you saw that?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Paul Rigby Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Extremely interesting article David. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. That is one swamp that needs to be drained.

I have every confidence an enormous Chinese Dong would do the job nicely.

::laughingdog::
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Extremely interesting article David. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. That is one swamp that needs to be drained.

I have every confidence an enormous Chinese Dong would do the job nicely.

Ah you saw that?

Sure did. Haven't stopped laughing at the Russian Insider headline. Puerile Scouse git that I am.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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David Guyatt Wrote:In the below article Thierry Meyssan argues that Trump's main purpose is to take back control of the levers of power from the Neocons who stole it in the wake of 9/11 to advance their ambition of advancing globalization.

If he is correct in his analysis on this - and I suspect he may be - then good luck to him and good riddance to them --- globalization has been a fucking awful tragedy that has seen 8 men accumulate the gross wealth of half the world.

Quote:WILL THE UNITED STATES REGAIN THEIR FREEDOM?


Trump enough of 9/11!


by Thierry Meyssan


Donald Trump refused to don the Presidential uniform of his predecessors, and dedicated his speech of investiture to mocking the System and announcing a change of paradigm. He has built his Security team around two themes the eradication of Daesh and the opposition to 11 September two characteristics which are aimed at putting an end to the process of globalisation.


VOLTAIRE NETWORK | DAMASCUS (SYRIA) | 24 JANUARY 2017


[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8913&stc=1]


President Donald Trump was invested on 20 January 2017. Although he had just sworn his oath, and therefore had not had the time to do anything either for good or for evil, on the very next day, Hillary Clinton's sponsors organised a gigantic demonstration against him in Washington.


As proof that what is at stake here does not concern only the United States, identical demonstrations were staged in numerous countries, particularly in the United Kingdom. Of course, the demonstrators were not reacting to any particular act, but simply expressing their fears. Outside the US, many of them carried signs reading - «I'm terrified».


Donald Trump, whose adversaries portray him as an unpredictable character without any clear guide-line, has been indicating for a long time what he intends to do. He first of all demonstrated, then explained, first by allusion and then quite clearly he intends to give back to the American People the Power that was confiscated on 11 September 2001 [1].


Even before he took his place in the electoral campaign, Donald Trump had attempted to open the file on this usurped Power by sponsoring the movement for the truth about the birth of President Barack Obama [2]. He showed, basing his argument on the testimony of the President's grandmother, then on the absence of registration in the Hawaï records, then again on the irregularities in the official certificate, that Obama was born a subject of the British Crown in Kenya.


And yet, during the electoral campaign, once he had realised that he had a chance of winning, he closed the file and abstained from any provocation against the President. He stopped making any allusion to the diarchy of Power. However, he did concentrate his message on the usurpation of real Power by a small exclusive group for whom Hillary Clinton is the visible spokeswoman.


His positions, which make no sense at all in terms of the traditional political differences, whether concerning foreign policy is he an interventionist or an isolationist? - or the economy is he a free-trader or a protectionist? - are on the contrary perfectly clear to those who are suffering from the usurpation of Power [3].


He has never stopped repeating, clearly enough so that he is supported by his compatriots, but allusively enough to avoid head-on conflict, that all the decisions taken since 9/11 are illegitimate. This has nothing to do with the antagonism between Republicans and Democrats, since these decisions were approved by the Republican Bush Jr. and the Democrat Obama. On the contrary, it has to do with an ancient cleavage in civilisation between the caste who closed their eyes to 9/11, and those who were crushed by it, between the adepts of Mayflower Puritanism and the adepts of Freedom [4].


Contrary to his predecessors, he wrote his speech of investiture himself, and centred it around this - «Today's ceremony has a very particular meaning, because it is not simply the transfer of power from one administration to another. (…) What really matters is not who has the power in government, but the fact that the government is in the hands of the American People» [5].


[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8914&stc=1]


As from the first day, and contrary to US tradition, he set up a National Security team composed of notable soldiers - Generals James Mattis, John Kelly and Michaël Flynn. Despite the fact that the Press presents them as an incoherent grab-bag of personalities chosen independently of one another, he has in truth chosen them to take back the Power confiscated by a faction of the military-industrial complex.


The new Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, was confirmed by the Senate and has been sworn in. He is considered by his peers as a learned man and one of the best strategists of his generation. During the electoral campaign, he had been asked to present himself, in the name of the Republican party, to run against Trump. He hesitated for a moment, having discovered the dark side of politics in Washington, then retired from the competition without explanation [6]. His return was warmly welcomed by the army, particularly since two thirds of the military had voted for Donald Trump. Over the last two years, Mattis was a researcher at the Hoover Institution (a Republican think-tank based at Stanford University). He pursued his studies on the relations between civilians and the military, which attests to his will to place the armed forces back in service of the People.


When he arrived at the Pentagon, Mattis distributed a short Memorandum in which he affirmed that «the military and the Intelligence agencies are the sentinels and guardians of the Nation» - a phrase which is aimed at soothing the conflict concerning Russia which opposes Trump and the outgoing director of the CIA, John O. Brennan - and at re-orienting the work of the security forces towards the defence of the Nation, rather than the pursuit of an imperial fantasy or the protection of the interests of multinational companies [7].


Since the director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, is still waiting for his confirmation by Congress, President Trump went to the CIA himself. While they talked of one thing and another, he clearly set the course - «to eradicate Islamic terrorism from the surface of the Earth» [8]. He seems to be aware of the debates that have shaken the Agency over the last four years about the folly of supporting Daesh debates which earned his National Security advisor, General Michaël Flynn, his post as director of Military Intelligence. Trump made no mention of the controversy about alleged Russian interference in the US electoral campaign, and even less about the rôle of «Russian agents» that the Press had attributed to his ex-campaign director, Paul Manafort, and two other of his advisors, Carter Page and Roger Stone.


In the absence of Pompeo, the President did not touch on the question of the structural reform of the CIA. General Mattis's Memorandum, the presence of General Flynn by Trump's side, and the way in which he had praised Pompeo a brilliant student of the military academy of West Point give the impression that this new team intends to place the CIA in the orbit of the Pentagon rather than that of the Secretary of State an option which is aimed at reducing the possibilities for intervention by Hillary Clinton, still influential in her ex- Secretariat.


Donald Trump has asked about fifty members of the Obama administration to remain at their posts. Among them -
- Brett McGurk, special envoy to the anti-Daesh Coalition;
- Adam Szubin, under-Secretary of the Treasury tasked with fighting the financing of terrorism;
- Nicholas J. Rasmussen, director of the National Counter-Terrorism Centre;
- Dab Kern, special Chief of Staff for the White House.


It therefore seems that the White House wants to dispose of a team with the means of fighting Daesh.


The inter-service Chief of Staff, General Joe Dunford, has announced that he is ready to present to President Trump various options for attacking Daesh. One of them consists of taking al-Raqqah with 23,000 Arab mercenaries who have already been trained by the Pentagon. Dunford was in Paris on 16 January, where he presided a meeting of the Coalition Chiefs of Staff.


Whatever Donald Trump decides, he will have to take into account the fact that the Caliphate has been heavily armed by the Obama administration. Besides this, Daesh disposes of an experience in combat which the Pentagon's new mercenaries do not have. Also, before attacking al-Raqqah, he will have to decide which future he wants to favour in Iraq and in Syria.


President Trump has named his National Security Advisor, General John Kelly, who has been confirmed by the Senate and has assumed his functions. According to the US Press - usually an untrustworthy source of information, to be taken with great precaution this ex-CEO of SouthCom was chosen for his knowledge of the Mexican border and the stakes involved. Maybe.


However, there may be another reason for this choice - Kelly was Mattis's assistant in Iraq. In 2003, both of them entered into conflict with Paul Bremer III, the boss of the Coalition Provisional Authority - which, contrary to what the title might suggest, did not depend on the Coalition, but on the men who organised 9/11 [9]. They also opposed the civil war that John Negroponte had decided to organise in order to head the Iraqi Resistance away from fighting the Occupier, by creating the Islamic Emirate in Iraq (future Daesh). On the contrary, Mattis & Kelly attempted to honour the heads of the tribes of central Iraq in order to no longer be perceived as occupiers. They sought the help of the head of US Military Intelligence in Iraq, Michaël Flynn. The three men finally submitted to the orders of the White House.


General Michaël Flynn was nominated as Donald Trump's National SecurityAdvisor. Since this post had not been approved by the Senate, he immediately assumed his functions. We have already presented this man as the defender of the United States as a Nation, and as such, as the principal opponent of the use of Islamic terrorism by the CIA [10].


[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8915&stc=1]


Seeking any way they could of diminishing his authority, Hillary Clinton and her campaign director John Podesta started a rumour that he or his son, Michaël Flynn Jr., were unable to keep their mouths shut, and had helped us write an article on the reform of Intelligence [11]. In case this charge would not be enough, they used one of Michaël Jr's Tweets, which linked to one of our articles, to accuse the two men of «conspirationism» - in other words, seeking the truth about the events of 9/11 [12].


Contrary to what the US Press pretends, Generals Flynn, Mattis & Kelly have known each other for a long time, and serve the same objective which does not mean that relations between them are always easy. Only senior officers of this status are capable of helping President Donald Trump to take back the Power that has been usurped since 11 September 2001. In order to succeed, they will have to clean out the Pentagon, CIA and the international institutions which have been corrupted - NATO, the European Union and the UNO.


The millions of people who demonstrated against President Donald Trump were right to howl their fear. Not that the new inhabitant of the White House is a misogynist, a racist and a homophobe which he is not but because we are approaching a moment when the knots will be untied. It is more than probable that the usurped Power structure will not allow itself to be unravelled without reacting.


This confrontation will not take place in the Middle East this time, but in the West, and particularly in the United States.


Thierry Meyssan
Translation
Pete Kimberley


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[1] L'Effroyable Imposture suivi de Le Pentagate, par Thierry Meyssan, Editions Demi-Lune, première édition 2003. English Version : 9/11 The Big Lie, and Pentagate, by Thierry Meyssan, Carnot, 2002.


[2] « La Cour suprême appelée à suspendre l'élection de Barack Obama », "In 1979, Obama was considered a foreigner by the U.S. Adminitration", "Barack Obama's false birth certificate released on White House website", Voltaire Network, 9 décembre 2008, 17 February 2010, and 6 May 2011.


[3] "15 years of crime", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Voltaire Network, 15 September 2016.


[4] "United States reformation or fracture?", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Voltaire Network, 26 October 2016.


[5] "Donald Trump Inauguration Speech", by Donald Trump, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[6] "Mattis versus Trump", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Al-Watan (Syria) , Voltaire Network, 3 May 2016.


[7] "James Mattis Memo", by James Mattis, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[8] "Donald Trump at CIA Headquaters", by Donald Trump, Voltaire Network, 21 January 2017.


[9] "Who Rules Iraq?", by Thierry Meyssan, speech at the International Conference of Solidarity with the Iraqi Resistance, Voltaire Network, 13 May 2004.


[10] "Michael T. Flynn and Islam", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Al-Watan (Syria) , Voltaire Network, 22 November 2016.


[11] "General Flynn's Proposals to Reform Intelligence", by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Contralínea (Mexico) , Voltaire Network, 1 December 2016.


[12] "Podesta & Clinton against Flynn", Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Voltaire Network, 19 January 2017.
Source

English translation of the link in footnote 1 HERE.

Whether wishful thinking, the enemy of my enemy is my friend syndrome, or just plain misreading of Trumpf - mostly likely each of the above, I have to disagree almost entirely with Meyssan's piece and views. Yes, Trumpf is not in the usual neocon camp; he is in a different outright fascist camp [not that neocons were not neo-fascist, as well]. I do NOT believe that Trump was 'championed' by nor saw himself as an anti-neocon. While some [SOME] of his policies seem to be at odds with the neocons we have known, others are perfectly in sync - Israel would be just one I could mention; strengthening of the military and internal repression apparatus another.

His 'Generals' are all guilty of war-crimes, but none more so than Mattis who executed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Faluja. The others are not much better - and I see nothing about them that says they are / were opposed to the orders they got under the neocons.

I think most non-US citizens can not get a full feel yet for what we are dealing with here with Trump. He was NOT wanted by the Republican establishment, who along with the Democrats kept: money flowing from the poor and middle-class to the rich [which Trump will continue], the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex fat [which Trump will continue], which kept up the cryto-imperialism [which it is not sure what Trump will do, but I think it will be continued if not in as many new wars; he is continuing in Obama's drone killings already], kept the public dumb, fat, and uninformed/propaganda saturated [which Trump has already proven he will continue], which denied antropogenic climate change on the Republican side [which Trump will surpass them on]...and I could go on. I see nothing about Trumpf, which makes me believe that he is going to try to roll back the activities of the neocons, nor expose their false-flag operations.... Sorry. He is a different kind of monster, but a monster none the less - one who is a demagogue, fascist, oligarch, sexist, racist, xeonophobe, homophobe, misogynist, et al. Yes, he doesn't like NAFTA nor other similar, the few things about him I agree with, but he doesn't for reasons that are 'other' - and mainly a ploy to rise to the top with his 'following'. He is an outsider in part, but his values are not that far from the ruling elites since WW2, sadly. He is more in it for himself and his ego. He will never, IMO, ask for the facts of 911, or all the wars and horrors that followed from that to be investigated or documents released. Again, sorry. I wish it was otherwise. A plague on both the house of the Neocons and that of Trump. I'd never want to be in the position to say which was worse - either is so bad as their total destruction necessary. That one evil has replaced another doesn't warm my heart at all.........they have more in common than in disagreement - and neither have the average person nor the environment [and humans living in harmony with, not in destruction of it] in mind - such ideas NEVER enter their minds except in propaganda lines to fool the average Joe and Jane.
Do I think that ISIS in part has been built up by hidden forces in the US - yes, as was true for other groups such as bin Ladin's and others; however, I do not see Trump as about to do more than say Obama - who also said he was going after ISIS, while also secretly arming them and building them up in the beginning. Again, Trump ever the actor and populist in the worst sense of the word, said what would appeal to his following. He cares not for his followers - only for enriching himself and his class-mates. I do not think it will take long to see that this is so, and that he is going to ratchet-up the move to full-blown fascism even more than his predecessors. Sorry to say. I see him as no alternative to what we had - only somewhat different, yet a whole lot worse.
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I heard he was backtracking on the Israel Jerusalem embassy today. Who knows what it will be tomorrow.
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Oh, I think the day of the Neocons has passed. I feel sure this is due to the fact that the world changed and their strategy was found to be unable to adjust and accommodate that, and so the more powerful elite faction decided a change had to be made.

This can be seen in a number of past discussions by people like Kissinger and Brzezinski.

I think we also see evidence of it in the ferocious battle they had with Trump publicly before he actually took office. For me it revealed a really quite unusual public disagreement between various elite factions on how to secure America's future. Trump's faction won the argument. For now anyway.

However, I agree with you that Trump is a very, very unpleasant individual who is certainly going to line his own pockets and those of his backers, and his past association with mafia types suggests this quite strongly.

But for me the key to the future was the recent groundwork done by Poppy Bush, Clinton, Dubya Bush and Obama - that saw the Constitution and other vital democratic safeguards dismantled (to very little protest as far as I was able to see) --- not to mention the vile use of torture - which Trump wishes now to implement too.

These four presidents paved the way for Trump. But they weren't entirely alone in that either.

The fact is that the US has always flirted with and fondled fascism. Think Nixon. Think HUAC. Think JFK's daddy. Think the Bush family and their Nazi past. Think Ford and other US industrialists who were in love with Adolf. Think how Wall Street and almost the entire American establishment financed and backed Hitler's rise to power and then financed his war machine with the intention of turning his mind to invade Russia to defeat the Bolsheviks (which they also financed and backed as you know).

History shows us that "wealth" absolutely loves a "strong" manager (to use Noam Chomsky's terminology for presidents and prime ministers), because their bottom line is that no one should be allowed to interfere with their... bottom line; which to a not insignificant extent derives from having easy access to the bottomless national purse funded by those of us who must be "managed".

In the last analysis, the elite used democracy to achieve their goals, but happily dumped that the minute it no longer suited their needs. They'll replace it with whatever system works for them. And when it no longer works, they'll dump that too.

So, to this extent focusing attention on the flawed personality of their current chosen "manager" deflects from the bigger picture.

It's the ruling elite who rule...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Trump wants to bring back CIA's black sites. Oh yes, the day of the neo-con has ended, for sure. ::rofl::[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html"]

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