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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Shayler's wig also makes the photos look strange. And if those are really his legs, Davey's lost a shed load of wieght.
Annie Machon's comments are relevant, but it's entirely possible that the HateMail have used them out of context:
Quote:Last night his former partner and fellow spy Annie Machon spoke of her sadness at Mr Shayler's plight as she maintained he had suffered a breakdown.
Miss Machon, 40, who now lives in Dusseldorf, Germany, with her new partner blamed the Government and the intelligence services for causing Mr Shayler's current condition.
'I believe David is a good and honourable man but he has had a some sort of severe breakdown. He was a great public speaker and now he is like this.
'I do blame the Government and the intelligence agencies for what he has become and they have ruined his life.'
If the comments are used in context, then - given Shayler also seems to view himself as a Messiah in the Icke-ian sense- I would suspect Davey's brain chemistry has been completely messed up.
By fair or foul means. Assuming her words have not been taken out of context what she has to say is very interesting. She blames the imprisonment and implies that they may have done something to him whilst imprisoned.
As for the wig it is indeed tragic as transvestism so often is. Which is the point I am sure. Now, witting or unwitting? Willing or unwilling? Most useful to their cause in any case.
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More on this from 'The Independent' - doesn't add much really but posted for completeness sake on the current round of MSM 'interest' in him.
He certainly has a point in the final quote of the piece:
"I don't give a fuck what other people think of me. A bloke in a frock is whole lot less offensive than blowing up innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan."
Though there's zero chance of him being taken seriously about anything anymore. I'm just waiting for the inevitable police raid and drugs bust now - shouldn't be long coming. The coup de grace, so to speak.
Quote:What renegade MI5 officer David Shayler did next...
The renegade MI5 officer who blew the whistle on his former colleagues is now living in a squat, dressing as a woman, and railing against the 'Zionist empire'.
By Cahal Milmo
Tuesday, 28 July 2009
TERI PENGILLEY
David Shayler now squats at a Surrey farm as his alter-ego Dolores
With its trout stream, village cricket pitch and sedate tearoom, Abinger Hammer is a quintessential slice of village England. Recently, this jewel of the Surrey stockbroker belt has added a more unconventional element to its list of attractions – a 6ft transvestite squatter called Delores Kane who believes he is the Messiah and happens to be Britain's best-known renegade former spy.
A short distance from the home of the novelist E M Forster, David Shayler and his miniskirt-clad alter ego have taken up residence in a 17th-century National Trust farmhouse after a decade of spiritual contemplation which has led the one-time MI5 officer to the conclusion that he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and that all of humanity's ills can be cured by a four-year programme of hemp cultivation.
For the man who came to public attention in spectacular fashion 12 years ago by lifting the lid on a catalogue of dark deeds allegedly carried out in the name of Queen and Country by the intelligence services, it is a reinvention every bit as dramatic as his claims that MI6 funded Islamist fighters to assassinate Libya's Colonel Gaddafi and that MI5 failed to keep track of an IRA bombing cell – revelations that ultimately forced him into exile and earned him two spells in prison.
But as he came to the door of the salubrious squat close to Guildford dressed as Delores in a blonde wig, sheer black tights, a leopard skin skirt and a cropped top with prosthetic breasts, before explaining that the world as it is known will end of 23 December 2012, it is perhaps clear why some of his former friends are concerned that he has suffered some form of mental collapse.
Sat on a floor cushion in a fug of joss stick smoke in the sitting room of Hackhurst Farm, a 400-year-old rural idyll at the end of a country lane which he has occupied since last month with a group of eco-campaigners, the 43-year-old former spy outlined his journey from an atheist in charge of MI5's Libya desk to the stiletto-heeled messianic proclaimer of a crusade to dismantle a "Zionist empire", whose control is apparently exerted over the planet by nefarious means from vaccines to mortgages.
Far from being unwell, Mr Shayler insisted he was merely following the same instincts that persuaded him to blow the whistle on the alleged misdeeds of MI5 and MI6 in 1997 – and illegally print extracts from Spycatcher while a student – by bringing into the open unpalatable "facts" about the state of humanity.
He said: "I am absolutely well. I have not had a breakdown. My job in MI5 was to stop terrorism and violence. What I saw within the service showed that was not always the case and I had the courage to stand up and tell the difficult truths about what was going on.
"I have spent my life telling difficult truths and now I am in the same situation again. I am the latest reincarnation of the Christ and live a life of unconditional love. Suddenly my whole life makes sense. By exercising the common law right of free will, we can all break out of the system that has enslaved us, started wars and left us mired in debt."
Looking much thinner than the rotund spy who spent four months in a French prison without charge in 1998 and was then later sentenced to six months' imprisonment in Britain for breaching the Official Secrets Act, Mr Shayler is fond of expounding on the many "signs" (from biblical codes to the film The Da Vinci Code) which he says have proved him that he is the current incarnation of the Messiah – a role he says was previously performed by King Arthur, Mark Antony, Macbeth, Lawrence of Arabia and his immediate predecessor as the embodiment of Christ, Che Guevara.
Between drags on a roll-up cigarette, he explained how the engravings on the Rod of Aaron, the staff carried by Moses' older brother in the Old Testament, contained an anagram of "David Shayler, Righteous King".
Referring to the moment on 29 June 2007 when he said he realised his divinity after a premonition that he had stopped a bomb attack on a London nightclub, he said: "It was a deeply, deeply humbling experience. I felt this incredible energy, way beyond any sexual or physical experience. It was way, way beyond where I had been before.
"What do you do in those circumstances? I fell to my knees and prostrated myself. I had become the spirit of Jesus."
Some 12 years after he first revealed the details of intelligence service operations to the Mail on Sunday for £40,000 – including claims that MI5 kept files on senior Labour Party figures in the early 1990s and ignored warnings of an attack on the Israeli embassy which subsequently took place – Mr Shayler's transformation has revived suggestions that he is as much a showman as an earthly cipher for "difficult truths".
One former counter-terrorism official told The Independent: "It would not be right to form any opinion about his current state of mind. But [David Shayler] chose to go public in 1997 and he made it clear that he was going to make the most of it. I suppose the question is whether that was underpinned by some inner need for spectacle."
Whatever his motivation, the result is a bewildering mishmash of conspiracy, practicality and spirituality that wanders from the well-trodden hypothesis that 9/11 was "an inside job" to the idea that widespread planting of hemp as a source of food, drugs and building materials would provide a sustainable basis for all human life within four years.
Alongside disarming frankness about his transvestism (Delores is the manifestation of a clothes-swapping habit that dates back to his teenage years and his conviction that "Jesus is a tranny"), Mr Shayler outlines how Castrol GTX adverts are a subliminal reference to God, and Gaia, the spirit linking all life, will rise up in December 2012 and reshape the cosmos.
He is also complimentary about David Icke, the former BBC sports presenter who has gone before him in revealing himself as Jesus's reincarnation before suggesting the world is controlled by shape-shifting lizards. Mr Shayler said: "David has done some enormously important work. I see him as the John the Baptist to my Christ. I have spoken to him on the phone and suggested we meet."
Those who know the former MI5 operative, a fanatic Middlesbrough FC fan who also believes his channelling of "unconditional love" propelled his side into the 2006 Uefa Cup Final, believe he is paying the psychological price for the years of media pressure and pursuit by the authorities. Annie Machon, his former girlfriend, said: "I believe David is a good and honorable man but he has had some form of severe breakdown. I do blame the Government and the intelligence agencies for what he had become."
Psychologists warned that the espousal of unusual beliefs should not be interpreted as proof of mental illness. Simon Gelsthorpe, a clinical psychologist based in Bradford, said: "A lot of research over the last decade has looked into the occurrence in the normal population of traits that society has traditionally seen as a mental illness. Hearing voices is way more common than we had thought, as is the holding of unusual beliefs. A lot of these so-called indicators of mental illness are in fact relatively common and part of normal life."
For his part, the former spy and self-confessed user of cannabis and magic mushrooms is unapologetic in his certainty that he is now the subject of a higher calling: "I don't give a fuck what other people think of me. A bloke in a frock is whole lot less offensive than blowing up innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan."
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Shayler sez:
Quote:"I don't give a fuck what other people think of me."
At one level, this can be seen as Shayler's greatest strength.
And his achilles heel.
However, I consider the statement to be delusional. In fact, I suspect it reveals Shayler's near total lack of self-knowledge.
Imo he clearly does give a fuck about what other people think of him.
Indeed, his sense of self may even be defined by his understanding of how other people perceive him.
Otherwise, he'd just get on with dressing up as a woman.
He wouldn't let all and sundry photograph and interview him for articles that he knows, he absolutely knows, will be hatchet pieces designed to destroy any remaining credibility he possesses.
Shayler's worldview is the same as the washed-up music hall idol, still treading the boards of crumbling seaside theatres, not caring whether he's applauded or hissed. Just wanting the attention. Craving the attention. His very existence dependent upon others responding to him -whether as a fugitive whistlebower or a squatting transvestite.
Ho hum.
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Police evict ex-MI5 whistleblower
Former MI5 whistleblower David Shayler has been evicted from a National Trust property in Surrey.
Mr Shayler and several other squatters were ordered to leave the Hackhurst Farmhouse in Abinger after a court hearing on 12 August.
Judge Robert Reid QC said the group, who did not attend Guildford County Court, were trespassing.
After refusing to vacate the property of their own accord yesterday, police and bailiffs were forced to evict them.
The group are thought to have moved into the property on 26 June.
Mr Shayler, who was jailed in November 2002 for breaking the Official Secrets Act, joined the squatters earlier this year.
A National Trust spokeswoman said: "We are pleased to finally have our property back. We are a charity supported by public donations, and the process of recovering the house over the last few weeks has cost us over £10,000."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/8213164.stm
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..wait a minute...this group was allowed to occupy a fancy and historic property for half a year or so....someone is scripting all this and pulling the strings....
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I would cosider the possibility that Shayler is desperately trying to save his life, after recovering from a severe nervous breakdown after realizing the size of the situation.
I also think that is why this other guy always talks about lizards.
And why Bugliosi wrote his book the way he did.
It's only a theory.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:..wait a minute...this group was allowed to occupy a fancy and historic property for half a year or so....someone is scripting all this and pulling the strings.... That is certainly a possibility but I wouldn't give much weight to the 'occupying a fancy property' bit.
We have some strange domestic property occupancy laws here in the UK. They make it pretty difficult to evict squatters who occupy an otherwise non-occupied property and refuse requests by the owner or anyone else to leave. I haven't got all the details to hand but briefly, a strict and convoluted procedure has to be gone through involving the courts, which makes it impossible to regain vacant possession in less than about 2-3 months from its start. Force (in the form of the police and court appointed bailiffs only) can only be used on successful completion of the process and any attempted use of force in the meantime is likely to land the perpetrator in prison. In this case the owners of the property - that prissy but dearly beloved bureaucratic NGO the 'National Trust' - seem to have whizzed through the process in double-quick time.
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Peter Presland Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:..wait a minute...this group was allowed to occupy a fancy and historic property for half a year or so....someone is scripting all this and pulling the strings.... That is certainly a possibility but I wouldn't give much weight to the 'occupying a fancy property' bit.
We have some strange domestic property occupancy laws here in the UK. They make it pretty difficult to evict squatters who occupy an otherwise non-occupied property and refuse requests by the owner or anyone else to leave. I haven't got all the details to hand but briefly, a strict and convoluted procedure has to be gone through involving the courts, which makes it impossible to regain vacant possession in less than about 2-3 months from its start. Force (in the form of the police and court appointed bailiffs only) can only be used on successful completion of the process and any attempted use of force in the meantime is likely to land the perpetrator in prison. In this case the owners of the property - that prissy but dearly beloved bureaucratic NGO the 'National Trust' - seem to have whizzed through the process in double-quick time.
In the USA one would have no warning when the SWAT team came - if you were black or progressive, perhaps coming-in shooting - and certainly within hours of some complaint/report that you/anyone were in a home not owned or rented by them....the absolute coverse of the inverse. One has no right to shelter in the USA unless you pay for it [maybe]. I don't want to go into it all, but I was removed from an apartment I was fully paid-up for, because I was politically 'incorrect' [during First Gulf War when all other put a flag in the window, I put up a protest sign].....in that case I was 'given' 3 days to secure court protection - and lost. But then the USA has always been neo-fascist about money and property. I remember when I lived in Holland how squaters could often stay years and years until they were peaceably removed. How civilized compared to the USA.
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