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Evo Morales Speaks For the Indiginous Life On Planet Gaia
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Bolivian President Evo Morales: “Shameful” For West to Spend Trillions On War and Only $10 Billion For Climate Change

Bolivian President Evo Morales recently arrived in Copenhagen for the UN Climate Summit. In a press conference Wednesday, Morales said, “The budget for the United States is $687 billion for defense and they want for climate change–to save life, to save humanity–they only put up $10 billion. This is shameful.”

Why can't my country have such a moral person at the helm!:elefant:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Well, at least Morales' Secret Service did their job and prevented a SMOM/Gladio assassination team from achieving their objective.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...php?t=1304
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Bolivian President Evo Morales: “Shameful” For West to Spend Trillions On War and Only $10 Billion For Climate Change


Why can't my country have such a moral person at the helm!:elefant:

Because he don't practice what he preach,and seems that nobody cares.

Weapons expenses in Bolivia is the higest in decades, althoug our new Political Constitution declares we are pacific and specifically renounce to war.

http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actuali...46221.html

http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/31617/6776146.html

The weapons adquisitions for this year will be about 300 millons dollars, from Russia and China. Morales declares that K-8 chinese war planes will be used for "anti-narcotics", but any military know that a plane for that kind of job have tu be a turboprop, Tucano-type plane. K-8 is too fast and can't track a slow piston plane used by traffikers.
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You don't think Ruben that the US is just itching to march into Bolivia and install their man? Send some more dogs of war into the country? Over the border say Peru where the tear gas cannisters came from in Honduras? It's one thing to be pacifist (and I do believe that the Morales government is genuine in that desire) and another to blind and stupid. If left to their own devices I am sure that would be the case but the US has never left any nation to develop freely. It is a long list of US invasion and 'intervention'. A list Morales and co. are all too familiar with.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:You don't think Ruben that the US is just itching to march into Bolivia and install their man? Send some more dogs of war into the country? Over the border say Peru where the tear gas cannisters came from in Honduras? It's one thing to be pacifist (and I do believe that the Morales government is genuine in that desire) and another to blind and stupid. If left to their own devices I am sure that would be the case but the US has never left any nation to develop freely. It is a long list of US invasion and 'intervention'. A list Morales and co. are all too familiar with.

One could mention just about every South and Central American country (many several times) that has been the target of U.S. aggression and 'influence'. The classic is Chile IMO...but it is only classically typical. That Morales spoke the words 'terrorism' [the truth, IMO] that America is bringing in various parts of the world (and increasingly to its own People internally) - and points out their [USA's] values of riches for the rich and poverty/scorched earth/serfdom for everyone else is reason enough for him to have to watch over his shoulder for an American led coup or invasion - likely a secret one led by our ignoble secret operations cabal. The USA has been itching to 'roll-back' the independent voices in S. and C. America and get 'em all back on our 'Plantation' - like back in the good old days (that were very bad ones, in fact!). We who are latecomers or the offspring of invaders to the Americas are visitors and guests of the indigenous people's who knew much better than we how to live in some harmony with the Earth. We have much to learn from them - and reparations to make - physically and spiritually.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] "And if we don’t—and I repeat this—we’re going to end our lives, all of us. So, as with the last country and with our black and indigenous brothers who were treated as slaves, and their rights were not recognized, now, today, too, our Mother Earth, she is treated as if she were a thing without life, as if she didn’t have rights.

The second climate debt is the use of atmospheric space by the developed countries. It’s not possible that atmospheric space be the exclusive property of just a few countries for their development, that the countries that are irrationally industrialized have taken over, with their greenhouse gases, the atmospheric space. To pay this debt, they should reduce their emissions and absorb their greenhouse gases in a way that there exists a fair distribution of atmospheric space between all of the countries, taking into consideration their population, because the countries that are on the path of development need atmospheric space for their development.

The third component of climate debt is the paying of reparations, reparations for damages that have been created by the irrationally industrialized countries. For humanity together, it’s shameful that the Western countries have only offered $10 billion for climate change. I was looking at some figures. The United States—how much does the United States spend to export terrorism to Afghanistan, to export terrorism to Iraq, and to export military bases to South America? They don’t only spend millions, but billions and trillions. I hope our figures are not wrong. For example, Obama, he asked his Congress for $40 billion more than what has already been spent. The budget of the United States is $687 billion for defense. And for climate change, to save life, to save humanity, they only put up $10 billion. This is shameful. The budget for the Iraq war, according to the figures we have, is $2.6 trillion for the Iraq war, to go kill in Iraq. Trillions of dollars. But directed towards paying the climate debt, $10 billion. This is completely unfair. These are our deep observations of what’s going on. That’s why—for the war, while trillions are going to the wars, on the other hand, to save humanity and the planet, they only want to direct $10 billion.

The rich countries should take in all of the migrants who will be generated by climate change or affected by climate change. I think our brothers from Africa, our indigenous brothers from [inaudible], have a lot of moral authority. We have been invaded, supposedly discovered in Africa or Latin America, when in reality it was an invasion and plundering of indigenous peoples. Therefore, now, in the face of the asymmetries between continents, our brothers come looking for work, and they’re kicked out of Europe, they’re kicked out of the United States. But our grandparents never kicked anyone out, and our brothers and sisters don’t come here to take hectares of land or mines. They only come to improve their economic situation. Moreover, when they’re affected by this climate change, how is it possible they would be expulsed from Europe when they are climate refugees? How is it possible that our brothers and sisters are not taken under and protected? That’s why—therefore, our protest in the face of this discrimination to expulse immigrants, when we have never kicked immigrants out, we’ve never sent them home—"
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Magda Hassan Wrote:You don't think Ruben that the US is just itching to march into Bolivia and install their man? Send some more dogs of war into the country? Over the border say Peru where the tear gas cannisters came from in Honduras? It's one thing to be pacifist (and I do believe that the Morales government is genuine in that desire) and another to blind and stupid. If left to their own devices I am sure that would be the case but the US has never left any nation to develop freely. It is a long list of US invasion and 'intervention'. A list Morales and co. are all too familiar with.

And you think, Magda, that buying some K-8 planes will stop the gringos?...some guns or whatever?......

Maybe you don't notice yet, but good old days when heroic and barely armed gerrilleros can stop a modern army has gone a long time ago.

Gringos now doesen't need to be in the field to kill you, so you don't even have the chance to have a target. They just place a Reaper drone some miles over your head, they can search, track and kill you without notice, day and night, all weather condition. And that job is carried by an officer sitting in a confortable executive chair, with air-conditioned and Mozart music, living in a suburban house of any american city. He can shoot his missiles against you and go to dinner to his house, kiss his wife and daugther and feed his cat.

Those weapons are not for them. They are useless. Not even the powerful Sukhois buyed by Chavez (spending thousands of millions) can have a chance against american weaponry.

Those weapons are used as a disuasive threatening against any possible internal opposition. They are saying: "obey ME, or ELSE".

Maybe during cold war we were important for the gringos, but today they don't even care about us. They are happy maintaining as friends and partners only few countries in the world. They learn they don't need more.

In America: Canada, Mexico and Colombia are top countries for gringos. Venezuela is important as long Chavez keep selling oil to them.

Second line are Brazil, Chile and maybe Argentina. The rest of us can go to hell.
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Oh, I'm sure all that lovely lithium is in the sights of the gringos. Not to mention that cocaine to fund their black operations. The last thing they want is for Bolivia to go to hell. They want to get it under control. With Morales there they can't control it. Besides, Morales independence sets a bad example and gives other nations the idea that they can do things their own way. Naturally, if the gringos want to come through the front door there is nothing much Bolivia can do regardless of how many planes and tanks they have but the US has democratic pretenses to maintain in the world community. So they come through the back door. They send their dogs of war like Rosza Flores and his unemployable Irish and Hungarian and Croatian fascists to do the wet work to destabilise the country. A few planes from China, on good terms too, will help do that job. Plus they can do some good against the drones.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Funny speech of Evo Morales about "mother earth" and "poor innocent humble indigenous".

He still rule the confederation of coca farmers of Chapare region, the place where most cocaine is produced in Bolivia. Well.... "mother earth" is not well treated there: the rivers are heavy polluted with chemicals used in the process, the "poor indigenous" use dinamite to fish in the rivers, near national park and virgin woods are levered and burned to plant coca crops, animals are heavy hunted by "humble colla indigenous", leaving local amazonic indigenous without food, etc.

Hu, forgot. Morales has bought a paper factory that is about to install in Chapare region. Shure you know that paper is one of most pollutant factorys, that will use many trees and chemicals. Wild jungle trees, because there is no cultivated trees to harvest there.

But anyway, tender speech. Sorry if I don't believe him.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Oh, I'm sure all that lovely lithium is in the sights of the gringos. Not to mention that cocaine to fund their black operations. The last thing they want is for Bolivia to go to hell. They want to get it under control. With Morales there they can't control it. Besides, Morales independence sets a bad example and gives other nations the idea that they can do things their own way. Naturally, if the gringos want to come through the front door there is nothing much Bolivia can do regardless of how many planes and tanks they have but the US has democratic pretenses to maintain in the world community. So they come through the back door. They send their dogs of war like Rosza Flores and his unemployable Irish and Hungarian and Croatian fascists to do the wet work to destabilise the country. A few planes from China, on good terms too, will help do that job. Plus they can do some good against the drones.

-Why they would do that?... they have all lithium they want very near of them, for many, many years to come, maybe centuries http://eleconomista.com.mx/notas-online/...tio-mexico. The fact is that lithium is one of most abundant elements on earth. If is not more produced and searched, is because demand is confortably filled.

-Cocaine?... they have Colombia, remember?.......

-Rozsa Flores and co. ?....government has forced congress comission to close investigations, because evrytime show more clearly Morale's and Linera's involvment with that terrorist. Is so funny, that Morale's Government General public prosecutor don't want to accept the proofs finded now. That issue has fill his pourpose: to dismantle, chase and acusse opossitor leaders. If they are innocent?...Who cares?...they are allready destroyed by his press, his public prosecutor and his judge.

-Bad examples of "independence"?... they are sooo many in the world now. Venezuela, Iran, Ecuador, Nicaragua, etc., etc., etc...

-Not even Chavez Sukhois can do something against those drones. One simple drone can take all his Sukhoi fleet. They can't be sighted coz they fly and attac from very high altitude. Their radar and heat signature is so low that they are practically invisible. And carry a lot of long range, very accurate Hellfire guided missiles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-9_Reaper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle
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