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Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMn_56sh504
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#12
It seems something similar happened the last time Netanyahu was in power and followed a peace treaty signed with Jordan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61G2PF20100217

Quote:After Dubai hit, Israelis question Mossad methods
8:41am EST
By Dan Williams - Analysis
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The quiet assassination of a Hamas commander gets unexpectedly messy. Exposed and forced to atone before angry allies, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu orders the spymaster responsible to fall on his sword.
That was in 1997, when the Mossad director resigned after his men botched the poisoning of Khaled Meshaal in Jordan. Now premier a second time, Netanyahu faces a similar crisis over the death of another Hamas figure, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, in Dubai.
Israel's official silence on the January 20 killing has been outpaced, in the popular imagination, by UAE police footage of the suspected assassins and revelations some of them had copied the European passports of actual immigrants to the Jewish state.
The idea that the Mossad, having long cultivated a reputation for lethally outwitting Israel's foes abroad, this time tripped up by underestimating Arab counter-espionage capabilities prompted commentators to demand a public reckoning.
Special scrutiny was devoted to Mossad director Meir Dagan, an ex-general now in his eighth year of service and praised by Israeli leaders for spearheading a "shadow war" against Hamas, Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, and Iran's nuclear program.
Amir Oren of the liberal Haaretz daily went as far as to call for Dagan to be fired, describing him as "belligerent, heavy-handed" and predicting a row with Britain, Ireland, France and Germany -- the countries whose passports were used.
"Even if whoever carried out the assassination does reach some kind of arrangement with the infuriated Western nations, it still has an obligation to its own citizens," Oren wrote.
Several of the foreign-born Israelis who said their identities had been stolen for the Mabhouh assassination voiced fear they could now be vulnerable to murder prosecutions.
Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman did not deny Mossad involvement in Mabhouh's death but tried to deflect attention, implying in a radio interview that "some other intelligence service or another country" may have had a role.
Israel's allies recognize "that our security activity is conducted according to very clear, cautious and responsible rules of the game," Lieberman asserted.
UNNATURAL CAUSES
Other pundits disagreed about the diplomatic price that could be exacted from Israel, which is already fending off foreign criticism of the hundreds of Palestinian civilian deaths during its offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip last year.
But there was little arguing the fact that Hamas had turned the tables on Mabhouh's assassins by insisting UAE police launch a murder investigation after they initially ruled that his death, in a Dubai hotel room, had been of natural causes.
"What began as a heart attack turned out to be an assassination, which led to a probe, which turned into the current passport affair," wrote Yoav Limor in Israel Hayom, a pro-government newspaper.
"It is doubtful whether this is the end of the affair."
Israelis generally rally around the Mossad's two-fisted image -- honed back in the 1970s, when the agency hunted down and killed Palestinians blamed for a deadly raid on Israel's Olympic delegation at the Munich Games.
But the Mabhouh hit underscored the difficulties spies must contend with in the digital era, with ubiquitous high-resolution CCTV coverage and easily accessed passport databases.
"What happens in the modern world, the cameras everywhere -- it changes things not just for those whose trade is terror but also those trying to fight terror," former Mossad officer Ram Igra told Israel's Army Radio.
The UAE is holding two Palestinians accused of helping Mabhouh's assassins. Should they finger Israel, it will deepen the questions about Mossad tradecraft and operational security.
Mabhouh had masterminded the abduction and killing of two Israeli troops in 1989 and, more recently, the smuggling of Iranian-funded arms to Gaza. The attempted discretion of his killing indicated the assassins were not on a vendetta but, rather, trying to eliminate what they saw as a current threat.
Yet the possibility that the Mossad had so quickly come undone led Yossi Melman, author of two books on the intelligence agency, to suggest such assassinations would not be repeated.
Melman said a wider question would be also raised: "Does Israel's assassinations policy pay off?"
The 1997 attempted assassination in Amman, by two Mossad officers posing as Canadian tourists, unwittingly boosted Meshaal's status in Hamas. Netanyahu was also forced to free the Islamist faction's jailed spiritual leader, Ahmed Yassin.

And:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-N...2315551316

Quote:BREAKING NEWS3:15pm UK, Wednesday February 17, 2010
PM Wants Probe Into 'Killers' Fake Passports'
Adam Arnold, Sky News Online
Gordon Brown has called for a full investigation into how fraudulent British passports were allegedly used by the killers of a Hamas commander in Dubai.


Police there have named 11 Europeans, including six Britons and three Irish nationals, suspected of killing Mahmoud al Mabhouh in a luxury hotel last month.
But the Foreign Office said the UK passports involved were "fraudulent" - and officials in Dublin said they had "issued no passports" in the names of three people using Irish identities.
Details such as the names, numbers and dates of birth on the suspect passports matched the originals. However, the photographs and signatures differed.

The 11 suspects in the investigation into the assassination
Prime Minister Mr Brown said: "We are looking at this at this very moment."
"We have got to carry out a full investigation into this. The British passport is an important document that has got to be held with care," he told London's LBC Radio.
"The evidence has got to be assembled about what has actually happened and how it happened and why it happened.
"And it is necessary for us to accumulate that evidence before we can make statements."

Facebook picture of Melvyn Adam Mildiner (left) and picture of suspect (right).
Meanwhile, three people whose British passport details were apparently used by the killers have expressed their shock at being named among the suspects.
Israel-based Melvyn Adam Mildiner, 31, said he had never been to Dubai, adding he was "angry, upset and scared".
Kent-born Paul Keeley, 42, a builder who has lived on a Kibbutz in northern Israel for the past 15 years, said he had not left Israel for two years.
He said: "I am in shock. What do you mean what do I think about it? I am in shock. I think I need to check with the consul. What is going on here?"
And a third Briton, Stephen Hodes, said: "I do not know who is behind this. I am simply scared. These are very powerful organisations."
Hamas has pointed the finger at Israel, blaming the country's secret service Mossad for carrying out the hit.
And Dubai's police chief Lieutenant General Dhahi Khalfan Tamim said it was possible that "leaders of certain countries gave orders to their intelligence agents to kill" the Hamas militant.

Picture of Hamas commander Mahmoud al Mabhouh
The hit squad allegedly flew into Dubai on separate planes and booked into different hotels wearing wigs and fake beards to disguise their appearances.
At least two of the alleged gang watched the Hamas commander check-in to the hotel and booked a nearby room, it was claimed.
Around five hours after setting foot in the emirate, al Mabhouh was ambushed and killed. It is not known if he opened the door to his alleged killers himself.
All of the suspects left the United Arab Emirates within 19 hours of their arrivals, it was also claimed.
Hamas officials have not yet said why their commander was in Dubai, amid suggestions he was on his way to Iran.
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#13
Robert Fisk (and his "source") asks some unpleasant questions about the British passports used in the crime here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/com...02994.html

Quote:Collusion. That's what it's all about. The United Arab Emirates suspect – only suspect, mark you – that Europe's "security collaboration" with Israel has crossed a line into illegality, where British passports (and those of other other EU nations) can now be used to send Israeli agents into the Gulf to kill Israel's enemies. At 3.49pm yesterday afternoon (Beirut time, 1.49pm in London), my Lebanese phone rang. It was a source – impeccable, I know him, he spoke with the authority I know he has in Abu Dhabi – to say that "the British passports are real. They are hologram pictures with the biometric stamp. They are not forged or fake. The names were really there. If you can fake a hologram or biometric stamp, what does this mean?"
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Quote:"We have identified five credit cards belonging to these people, all issued in the United States." The man will not give the EU nationalities of the extra five – this would make two women involved in Mr Mabhouh's murder. He said that EU countries were cooperating with the UAE, including the UK. But "not one of the countries we have been speaking to has notified Interpol of the passports used in their name. Why not?"
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#14
Yes, the British response has been very limp wrist-ed. I was curious to see what their reaction was going to be given their 'special relationship' with Israel. Using other countries passports as a cover for political assassination is a high diplomatic crime and for the UK not to even have reported these passport as being used to Interpol says volumes to me. Apparently the British passports are the real thing too as well as the Irish. How far does the collusion go? Is it just turning a blind eye or is there active help in providing passports (and personnel?)
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

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#15
That's very interesting Carsten.

I listened to awful Bliar clone, David Milliband, on the Jeremy Vine radio 2 Show this afternoon. He pointedly refused to criticize Israel because (although they pointedly have not actually denied being responsible) they've said there is no proof it was them.

And so Brown's announced inquiry is simply a PR trick aimed at defusing the anger here in the UK. Af if the government don't know already - after all the assassination took place one month ago on 20th January 2010.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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#16
Dubai to issue arrest warrant for Netanyahu if Mossad behind Hamas killing
Dubai is to issue an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, if investigators conclude that the Mossad intelligence service was behind the killing of a senior Hamas official in the emirate last month.

By Adrian Blomfield in Jerusalem
Published: 2:05PM GMT 05 Feb 2010

The threat to detain the Israeli leader came as police in Dubai linked the apparent murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, a senior member of the Hamas military wing, to the Jewish state for the first time.

Dahi Khalfan Tamim, Dubai's police chief, claimed that the dead man was killed using methods known to be employed by Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence agency. He added that Mr Netanyahu would be held personally responsible if Mossad was identified as the culprit.

"Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, will be the first to be wanted for justice as he would have been the one who signed the decision to kill al-Mabhouh in Dubai," Gen Tamim told The National, an English language newspaper in Dubai.

"We will issue an arrest warrant against him."

Mr Mabhouh was found dead in his Dubai hotel room on January 20. According to initial forensic reports, he was given an electric shock before being suffocated. Police are still investigating other factors that could have contributed to his death, including poisoning.

Israel has yet to comment on whether or not it was involved in the killing, although it did issue a statement claiming that Mr Mabhouh played"z central role in smuggling weapons from Iran to Gaza militants".

In recent years Israel has been linked to the assassination of several Hamas leaders, both inside the Gaza strip, which is controlled by the Islamist movement, and elsewhere in the Middle East.

Any arrest warrant issued against Mr Netanyahu is likely to deal a setback to unofficial efforts to improve relations between Dubai and Israel.
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Interpol adds suspected Dubai assassins to most wanted list

By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and News Agencies

Dubai police chief: Mossad head should be arrested if Israel behind killing of top Hamas man.

Interpol added the 11 suspected assassins allegedly responsible for last month's Dubai assassination of a Hamas strongman to their most wanted list, Haaretz learned on Thursday.

The individuals who were charged by Dubai police as responsible for the killing of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh were tagged with "Red Notices," according to the Interpol's official website.

The website also specifies that Interpol chose to publish the photos of the suspected assassins since the identities the perpetrators allegedly used were fake, using fraudulent passports to aid them in accomplishing their aim.

Also Thursday, the Dubai police chief ahi Khalfan Tamim said Interpol should issue a warrant to help locate and arrest the head of Israel's spy agency Mossad if the organization was responsible for the killing of a Hamas militant in Dubai.

In comments to be aired later on Dubai TV, Khalfan Tamim called for Interpol to issue "a red notice against the head of Mossad ... as a killer in case Mossad if proved to be behind the crime, which is likely now."

Earlier, an article published in an Emirati newspaper reported that Dubai police chief Dahi Khalfan Tamim said he is 99 percent sure Israel was involved in Mabhouh's January killing.

"Our investigations reveal that Mossad is involved in the murder of al-Mabhouh. It is 99 percent, if not 100 percent, that Mossad is standing behind the murder," Tamim told The National newspaper.

A third man, a Hamas security operative, is under arrest in Syria on suspicion of having assisted the hit squad, the British daily The Guardian reported late Wednesday.

Palestinian sources in the Gulf said Nahro Massoud was in detention and under interrogation in Damascus, the Guardian reported.

Hamas politburo chief Khaled Meshal has denied the allegation, according to the report, saying "It is not correct at all".

But Palestinian sources insisted Massoud was being questioned amid speculation that potentially senior Palestinian defectors may have been involved in the plot.

Dubai to hand retina scans to Interpol'

Dubai police said Wednesday investigators had successfully recreated a detailed picture of the operation. The official Web site of the Dubai police featured the suspects' pictures and personal information in an effort to locate the assailants.

According to Palestinian news agency Ma'an, Dubai police said Wednesday that they hold retinal scans of the suspected assassins, which they plan to publish through international police intelligence service Interpol.

Airport officials carried out routine retinal scans on 11 suspects sought by Dubai when they entered the country in the days before the hit. An unnamed Dubai official said on Thursday that the investigation has now widened, with police seeking a further seven members of the assassination team - making 18 in all.

Dubai police also identified Austria as the "command center" for the assassins, after mobile phone data showed at least seven numbers originating there, the Guardian reported.

Dubai police speculated members of the group communicated using "encrypted" messages, and that contact was maintained via several Austrian mobile phone Sim cards.

Austria has confirmed its officials are investigating the claims.
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From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ports.html
Quote:“The UK is going through the motions of outrage, but our assessment is that they will do nothing,” said a source close to the Israeli government.
Could be.
I was not aware that something similar has happened in 1986.

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ation.html
Quote: Britain’s relationship with the Israeli security service reached an all-time low in 1986, when the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher closed down Mossad’s UK operation in response to a series of incidents including the discovery of a bag of forged British passports which had been lost by a Mossad agent.
Mossad was only allowed to re-establish its presence in the UK after it promised not to abuse British passports in the future.
So what is the most likely explanation how Israel (or somebody else) can get into possession of a British passport with correct data but fake photo, signature and biometrics?
1. They have the know-how and machinery needed to create passports without any help from outside
2. They have a mole in the british passport creation pipeline to allow them to have passports created without the british noticing it
3. They have support from MI5/MI6 allowing them to produce passports, but only very few people know
4. They have official support and many people know, but they are lying now, because it is embarrassing

Any votes?
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from http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/hit-squad-had-five-irish-passports-2069260.html:

Quote:The secret service hit squad blamed for assassinating a Hamas commander were carrying a total of five Irish passports, it has emerged.
Dubai authorities have warned diplomats in Ireland two more identity papers were recovered after the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh by suspected Israeli agents.
Israel's Ambassador to Ireland Dr Zion Evrony met senior government officials in Dublin over the controversial killing but insisted he knows nothing about it.
Dr Evrony also said he was under no obligation to address the international incident in public.
"I don't know anything about the event - beyond that it is not customary to share the content of diplomatic meetings," he said.
A Foreign Affairs spokesman confirmed two more Irish passports had been linked to the hit squad.
Officials have tracked down the first three people named on forged documents - Evan Dennings, Gail Folliard and Kevin Daveron - two of whom were due to travel this weekend.
The first three forged documents carried authentic passport numbers but the names did not match.
Officials were tonight attempting to establish if names and numbers were genuine and to track down the unsuspecting citizens.
Micheal Martin, Foreign Affairs Minister, said with Interpol on red alert for 11 suspected agents at least two Irish citizens would likely have been arrested as they attempted to fly over the next 48 hours.
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#19
5. All of the above?
Going through the motions of outrage seems about right. Israel seems pretty cool about all of this stating that it won't develop into a major diplomatic row. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1151016.html

The Daily Mail is saying that Israel tipped the UK off about their actions:
Quote:Israeli agents tipped off British intelligence that they were going to carry out an 'overseas operation' using fake British passports before assassinating a Hamas official in Dubai, the Daily Mail reported on Friday. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1151018.html

But I bet Israel will still say that 'there is no evidence' that Israel is involved. :marchmellow:And the UK will still be 'going through the motions of outrage'.
Popcorn and Malteasers please.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#20
Good find Magda.

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...-plot.html

Quote:MI6 was tipped off that Israeli agents were going to carry out an 'overseas operation' using fake British passports, it was claimed last night.
A member of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, said the Foreign Office was also told hours before a Hamas terrorist chief was assassinated in Dubai.
The tip-off did not say who the target would be or even where the hit squad would be in action. But the claim from a credible source that the Government had some prior knowledge of the abuse of UK passports will strengthen calls for ministers to come clean about what they knew and when.

Also the rest of the article is interesting.
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