Quote:So, "The Family" was quite possibly an intel operation.
However, there is no clear evidence that the young Assange was ever one of their family experiments.
Agreed- and I don't want to impugn his reputation unfairly in any way whatsoever. As I alluded to previously, he may be like many activists in this area who have brushed up against the Octopus in one way or the other. It may also be that "The Family" was an independent cult, not a product of the deep power system.
That said, the ways in which young Assange may or may not have been effected by his early encounter with cult members is certainly grounds for further research..
12-06-2010, 04:23 PM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2010, 04:27 PM by Keith Millea.)
Quote:Only she knows why thus was and why we were also all dressed alike, why most of us even had our hair dyed identically blond. I can only conjecture because I will never know for sure.
I wonder if Julian dyes his hair blond?
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2010, 04:59 PM by Jan Klimkowski.)
Austin Kelley Wrote:Jan Klimkowski wrote:
Quote:So, "The Family" was quite possibly an intel operation.
However, there is no clear evidence that the young Assange was ever one of their family experiments.
Agreed- and I don't want to impugn his reputation unfairly in any way whatsoever. As I alluded to previously, he may be like many activists in this area who have brushed up against the Octopus in one way or the other. It may also be that "The Family" was an independent cult, not a product of the deep power system.
That said, the ways in which young Assange may or may not have been effected by his early encounter with cult members is certainly grounds for further research..
Agreed also. However, even if "The Family" started out as a genuine "social experiment", it appears to have been rapidly coopted by controllers with access to technology, drugs, a mental hospital and a ready supply of orphans.
Orphans and prisoners are classic victims of illegal and unethical state-sponsored experimentation.
It is the access to facilities, people and technology that largely reveals the People's Temple (Jonestown) as a controlled and sanctioned intel op.
Here is a wiki overview of the Australian "Family's", um, human, property, medical and legal resources:
Quote:During the late 1960s and 1970s Newhaven Hospital in Kew was a private psychiatric hospital owned and managed by Marion Villimek, a Santiniketan member; many of its staff and attending psychiatrists were also members.[4][5][6]
Many patients at Newhaven were treated with the hallucinogenic drug LSD [7]. The hospital was used to recruit potential new members from among the patients, and also to administer LSD to members under the direction of the Santiniketan psychiatrists Dr John Mackay and Dr Howard Whitaker [8]. One of the original members of the Association was given LSD, electroconvulsive therapy and two leucotomies during the late 1960s [9].
Although the psychiatric hospital had been closed down by 1992, in that year a new inquest was ordered into the death of a Newhaven patient in 1975 after new claims that his death had been due to deep sleep therapy. The inquest heard evidence concerning the use of electroconvulsive therapy, LSD and other practices at Newhaven but found no evidence that deep sleep had been used on this patient. [10]. The Newhaven building was later reopened as a nursing home with no connections to its previous owner or uses.
[edit] Kia Lama
Anne Hamilton-Byrne acquired fourteen infants and young children between about 1968 and 1975. Some were the natural children of Santiniketan members, others had been obtained through irregular adoptions arranged by lawyers, doctors and social workers within the group who could bypass the normal processes. The children’s identities were changed using false birth certificates or deed poll, all being given the surname 'Hamilton-Byrne' and dressed alike even to the extent of their hair being dyed uniformly blonde[11].
The children were kept in seclusion and home-schooled at Kia Lama, a rural property usually referred to as "Uptop", at Taylor Bay on Lake Eildon near the town of Eildon, Victoria. They were taught that Anne Hamilton-Byrne was their biological mother, and knew the other adults in the group as 'aunties' and 'uncles' [4]. They were denied almost all access to the outside world, and subjected to a discipline that included frequent corporal punishment and starvation diets [12].
The children were frequently dosed with the psychiatric drugs Anatensol, Diazepam, Haloperidol, Largactil, Mogadon, Serepax, Stelazine, Tegretol or Tofranil[4]. On reaching adolescence they were compelled to undergo an initiation involving LSD[13]: while under the influence of the drug the child would be left in a dark room, alone apart from visits by Hamilton-Byrne or one of the psychiatrists from the group[4].
[edit] Memoir
A few children managed to escape. One adoptive daughter, Sarah Hamilton-Byrne, later wrote a book of her experiences giving an account of stealing white children by the medical establishment and others. In it she claimed that her biological mother had come to get rid of a baby and that members of the medical establishment in Melbourne and Geelong took part in a process where women were told that their babies had died at birth, when they had actually been taken away and eventually passed on to Anne Hamilton-Byrne.[14]
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
My take on mind control programs is framed by U.S. sources, which can take a very ethnocentric view. While I certainly have the impression that similar experimentation was going on in "enemy states", I also know that it was going on within states allied with the U.S. Empire- notably Britain, Canada, Australia, Israel and Apartheid South Africa. To what degree, these activities were conducted in concert, or not, remains to be proven. My best guess is that, not unlike the biological warfare network, there were- and are- a great deal of sub rosa connections..
Remember there was a race element to the Manson Family.
Charlie's controllers, probably during his prison time where he became a Scientological clear, fed him the truly ludicrous Helter Skelter Race War scenario, whose elements on close examination read like an LRon-Hubbard-meets-Robert-Heinlein-apocalypse-survival pulp fiction.
The philosophy of the Jonestown controllers contained strong eugenic racial elements.
Pure Blavatskyan Great White Brotherhood mysticism was probably reserved for more intellectual cult leaders, and superficial accounts of the leaders of the Australian "Family" suggest that they may have fitted this latter mould.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Also see the Vril thread in Alchemy and Bordlerlands.
Is Julian Assange a bleach-blond?
Yes,throw in some good old occultism into the stew.Maybe these kids are "Starseed" from the Pleides.........:trytofly:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
FWIW Ingo Swann in his book talks about being transported to an underground defence facility where two twin body guards preside, but it turns out they aren't twins, they're made to look identical and have some sort of synchronous behaviour.
Ingo Swann was the allegedly scientologist remote-viewer who trained Major Ed Dames of Art Bell and Men Who Stare fame.
Also see the Vril thread in Alchemy and Bordlerlands.
Is Julian Assange a bleach-blond?
Yes,throw in some good old occultism into the stew.Maybe these kids are "Starseed" from the Pleides.........:trytofly:
Perhaps yes. Add Andrija Puharich's stable of children. I like what Assange is doing, and I hope he prevails. When the US announces someone has "fallen off the radar" when that someone was scheduled to speak in Las Vegas but didn't show, I tend to think he really is a target.
Helen Reyes Wrote:FWIW Ingo Swann in his book talks about being transported to an underground defence facility where two twin body guards preside, but it turns out they aren't twins, they're made to look identical and have some sort of synchronous behaviour.
Ingo Swann was the allegedly scientologist remote-viewer who trained Major Ed Dames of Art Bell and Men Who Stare fame.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war