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9/11-- The US military knows Israel did it
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e25028.htm


The Dark Face of Jewish Nationalism
9/11 - The US Military Knows Israel Did It

Audio interview below

By Dr Alan Sabrosky


Quote:The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of other countries and cultures here I think are fourfold:

1. Zionism is a real witches' brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism and militarism that places it way outside of a "mere" nationalist context — for example, when I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indication whatsoever that the Provisional Irish Republican Army or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had a shred of design on shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country, although there may well have been a handful who thought that way — and goes far beyond the misery for others professed by the Nazis;

2. Zionism undermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way that other nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism) did not — e.g. a large majority of American Jews, including those who are not openly dual citizens, espouse a form of political bigamy called "dual loyalty" (to Israel and the US) that is every bit as dishonest as marital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to Israel over the US (lots of Rahm Emanuels out there who served in the Israeli army but NOT in the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense of national or cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racial group in America — even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany and the US went to war, with almost all of its members volunteering for the US armed forces;

3. The "enemy" of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America's target list); and

4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants) intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s) — it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more common of successful colonialist movements as in the US — and perhaps a reason why most Americans wouldn't care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech fashion.


During the podcast, Dr. Sabrosky predicts the US will eventually go to war with Israel.
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Quote:During the podcast, Dr. Sabrosky predicts the US will eventually go to war with Israel.
That boggles the mind doesn't it? But on the other hand the US lives for war. Any where. Any time. Any one. The only part of the economy still working to any extent.

Ed J has been trying to contact Dr Sabrosky to get some more military references for the information in this article and podcast. I'm not sure if there has been a response as yet.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Yes, I have been assembling the video/audio and text around this story/claim, and I did indeed write to a "last known" e-mail address for the doctor, a 10-year Marine veteran (Lt. Col. ?]. a graduate of the Army War College and a curriculum coordinator or something at the War College. I have had no response thus far and -- with this many hours gone -- I don't expect to get one. But he is a recent signatory to Patriots for 9/11 where you can find a bio and a statement. (See below.)

As has been pointed out in private conversations, it is certain that many in the US Military are: a) right wingers; b) Christians, sometimes of fundamentalist or evangelical type; c) of other type; d) of uncertain type; amnd e) of unknown type.

Tensions, both political and military, are currently high... on the psychological (Rahe) stress scale .. are probably at at least DefCon 4.

Similarly, I did also reach out to a known contact [someone who has been closely associated with high military officials for most of his long adult life, including most recently a former XO of a missile boomer] for affirmation and got it -- alas, non-attributable -- that the US military -- at the intel level -- is well-aware that 18 Arabs with boxcutters "run" by some fellow with a kidney illness living in a cave somewhere in the Hindu Kush could not have pulled off this event.

But you don't have had to have earned a doctorate from Harvard with a five-year billet in military intel as a G-2 to be able to figure this out.

Especially close to a decade after the fact...

Surely anyone in the military -- then, and now -- is going to play their cards very closely to their chests. There is too much at stake.

Here is what I have thus far:

US Department of Justice Asked to Regulate AIPAC as a Foreign Agent of the Israeli Government

WASHINGTON, March 17 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The US Department of Justice has been formally asked to begin regulating the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) as the foreign agent of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. A 392 page legal filing presented by a four person IRmep delegation in a two hour meeting with top officials of the Internal Security Section substantiated the following case for AIPAC's immediate registration:

  1. AIPAC is a spinoff of an organization already ordered by the DOJ to register as an Israeli foreign agent. In November of 1962 the American Zionist Council was ordered by the Attorney General to begin filing disclosures as an Israeli foreign agent under the 1938 Foreign Agents Registration Act. http://www.irmep.org/1962Order.pdf Six weeks later, former AZC employees incorporated the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington, DC, taking over the AZC's lobbying activities. http://www.irmep.org/AIPAC.pdf AIPAC did not register as a foreign agent.
  2. AIPAC's founder Isaiah L. Kenen was the chief information officer for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs in New York and for a time duly registered in that role. http://www.irmep.org/Kenen.pdf The Justice Department ordered Kenen to personally re-register after he formally left the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs to head up private lobbying and publicity for the Israeli government at the nonprofit American Zionist Council. Kenen never complied with the order. http://www.irmep.org/order.pdf
  3. Espionage related FBI investigations in 1984 and 2005 reveal AIPAC's ongoing stealth foreign agency activities. Declassified FBI files released on the Internet last week reveal that in 1984 AIPAC and the Israeli Ministry of Economics were investigated for jointly obtaining and circulating classified US economic data to obtain favorable trade benefits for Israel. http://www.irmep.org/ila/economy In 2005 Pentagon Colonel Lawrence Franklin pled guilty and two AIPAC employees were indicted for obtaining and circulating classified US national defense information to Israeli government officials allegedly in the interest of fomenting US action against Iran.
  4. AIPAC's executive committee consists of the original member organizations of the AZC in addition to newer members. The Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations, the umbrella group of AIPAC's executive committee, is housed in the same New York office as the World Zionist Organization – American Section, a registered foreign agent that is heavily involved in illegal settlement expansion according to Israeli prosecutor Thalia Sasson.
According to Grant F. Smith, director of IRmep, the case for reregulating AIPAC as a foreign agent immediately is compelling. "AIPAC was designed to supplant the American Zionist Council as the arm of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the United States after the DOJ ordered the AZC to register as a foreign agent. As such, Americans should have full public access to biannual FARA registrations detailing AIPAC's publicity campaigns, lobbying expenditures, funding flows, activities of its offices in Israel and internal consultations with its foreign principals - particularly over such controversial issues as illegal settlements and US foreign aid."
Concerned organizations and individuals who wish to supplement the Department of Justice filing or participate in future negotiations with law enforcement officials should contact the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy, Inc. at info@IRmep.org or 202-342-7325. IRmep is a private nonprofit that studies how warranted law enforcement and civil action can improve U.S. Middle East policy.
SOURCE Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy
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Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says "The Military Knows Israel Did 9/11"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsWcQXr1Nk8

Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D, University of Michigan) is a ten-year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. He can be contacted at docbrosk@comcast.net

Alan N. Sabrosky, PhD – Former Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, U.S. Army War College. A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran with 10 years of service. Graduate of the U.S. Army War College. Teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University. While in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs, lecturing widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad. His published work includes thirteen books or monographs and over one hundred forty articles, chapters and book reviews. Author, co-author, or editor of Prisoners of War: Nation States in the Modern Era (1990), The Recourse to War: An Appraisal of the "Weinberger Doctrine" (1988), Alliances in U.S. Foreign Policy (1988), The Strategic Dimension of Military Manpower (1987), Polarity and War: The Changing Structure of International Conflict (1985), Great Power Games: The Sino American Power Transition (1982).
  • Essay "Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond" 9/10/09:

    "The official 9/11 Commission's work and report were at best an incomplete exercise. Many people dismiss the findings of the Commission, and that includes its co-chairs [ Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton ]. Many others who utterly distrust the 9/11 Commission report, dismiss the US Government’s explanation of it, and point to both an official cover-up and an “inside job,” include veteran fighter pilots, EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians), air defense experts, experienced commercial pilots, demolition experts, architects and civil engineers – none of them professions that inherently attract and retain the gullible and credulous.

    Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do that as a "cover" had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.

    Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground: our CIA and Israel's Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the “who benefits” principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly with the neo-con’s agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American military power to destroy Israel’s enemies. Only the unexpected strength of the Iraqi resistance kept Syria and Iran from being attacked in the second Bush Administration. Thus, the evidential trail for 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq run from PNAC, AIPAC and their cohorts; through the mostly Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration; and back to the Israeli government. None of the denials and political machinations can alter that essential reality. Terms such as treason, betrayal and deceit do not overstate the case against them.

    Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is that on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is the one they all prefer – “all” meaning the PNAC alumni who took over the Bush Administration’s national security apparatus and their counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the numerous Jewish PACs, the MSM owners and Israel." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e23460.htm

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Mullen asserted that he was open to a U.S. attack on Iran

By Alan Sabrosky

America's Titanic Rushes the Iceberg

A very strange thing must have happened to Admiral Michael Mullen, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS), on his way to his recent talk at Washington's National Press Club.

He oddly asserted that Iran was indeed an "existential threat" to Israel (nice of the Israelis to have provided that sound bite), that he was open to a U.S. attack on Iran (which is no threat whatsoever to the U.S. ) to forestall that supposed danger to Israel, and that the attack "would also be incredibly destabilizing."

The thesis reviewed
In reality, only the anticipation of potentially catastrophic consequences is accurate. Regardless of what Arab governments do, the Arab street may explode. Iraq -- whose population, police and armed forces are largely Shia, and which now has good ties with Shia Iran -- could easily turn on the Americans in their midst, with gruesome consequences. Oil prices would skyrocket. And that is just for openers.

As for "existential threats," Israel certainly knows something about them, because that is precisely what Israel itself poses to Palestinians. But the idea that an Iran which might someday acquire a handful of crude nuclear weapons would somehow threaten the existence of Israel with its massive nuclear arsenal and American-designed air force surpasses lunacy. The Israelis know this. What they want is for the U.S. to remove their only surviving competitor in the region at America's own expense.

Moreover, Iran has not gone to war against its neighbors in modern times (Iraq invaded it in 1980). But Israel and the U.S. between them have gone to war and invaded other states on a variety of pretexts more than the rest of the world combined, since the end of the Second World War. Civil wars have been commonplace, but not international wars and cross-border interventions, which are visibly Israeli and American specialties.

The Face of Leadership?
Now, the fact that the good admiral sees nothing wrong with the U.S. going to war in the service of another country's interests is bad enough. But that he would do so knowing that a disaster of some sort could ensue defies belief. It is the equivalent of the captain of the SS Titanic being forewarned of an iceberg dead ahead, yet ordering the helmsman to hold his course and the engine room to increase the ship's speed.

I hope Mullen was simply parroting the script given him by the Pentagon's political leadership, which would be yet another strike against perpetuating civilian "amateur hour" in the national security process, just to keep the grave-diggers at America's military cemeteries gainfully employed. It would be more than painful to think he actually believed such nonsense, or lacked the character to refute it when he heard it.

We have been there before. One of the most compelling memories I have from the Vietnam War is the awareness (after the fact, I confess) of the abysmal arrogance and ignorance of most of the civilian so-called "leadership" in the Pentagon, compounded by the fact that not a single ranking general or admiral resigned in protest over what they knew in their professional hearts, minds and souls to be appallingly self-destructive and futile policies imposed on them by those superiors, and the President himself.

Beyond Arrogance and Ambition
A U.S. attack on Iran, alone (which Israel prefers) or in concert with Israel, would be the fourth misery in this decade directly attributable to assorted Israeli agencies, politicians and policies: the 9/11 attacks that set the whole train in motion, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and now potentially Iran. With "friends" like Israel, the U.S. will certainly not lack enemies.

Nothing much can be expected from the U.S. Congress in forestalling a war with Iran, and that is no surprise. As Israel's cheerleader and apologist, bought or blackmailed (or both), it is doing its legislative best to force a needless confrontation and lay the groundwork for an unnecessary and destructive war. Congress is simply a key part of the problem.

Nothing much can be expected from the White House either, which is more disappointing. Perhaps President Obama merely lacks courage. Perhaps he has no convictions, and his words in Cairo were as empty as his reservoir of courage. Or perhaps Rahm Emanuel and company have such influence over him that he cannot stand against them. He is simply not part of the solution.

Then there is the professional military, especially the flag officers on the JCS. They have the potential to make a difference, setting them above their Vietnam-era predecessors. A concerted public statement by the JCS that an Israeli-inspired US war with Iran is not in America's interest, and that they oppose a decision that would take America into yet another costly and destructive war, would expose this particular exercise beyond any ability of the mainstream media to suppress it.

It could also cost them their careers, especially if it averted this contrived war. And I understand the significance of that, having once taken a stand at a much lesser level and lost almost everything. I am also sensitive to the concept of obedience to authority embedded in our military.

But obedience does not entail subservience, especially subservience to the dictates of a foreign country and its American lobby. The precepts of "Duty, Honor, Country" ought to be paramount, and the flag of the country they are sworn to serve does not -- at least not yet -- include a Star of David.

If they understand this, and understand in their hearts and their minds that "America's Zionist Wars" are antithetical to those precepts and to the welfare of the American people, then they will take a public stand and help derail this train. Otherwise the next decade will make this one look remarkably good.

-- Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D, University of Michigan) is a ten-year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. He can be contacted at docbrosk@comcast.net.


-- Middle East Online

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On Luttwak’s “Coup d'Etat: A Practical Handbook”

http://bahoowah.blogspot.com/2007/06/blo...-coup.html

Edward Luttwak, the well-known military expert, an adviser on National Security to Ronald Reagan, is an ultra-conservative and a militarist with known links to the CIA, to friends in the Pentagon, to the military-industrial complex and, naturally, to JINSA.

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The airfield at Newburgh?!

What do we know about it?

And now this…

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-bea...79537.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...79_pf.html


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WeAreChange named as “hate group” by Southern Poverty Law Center

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/826.html




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Pentagon vs. Israel?

posted by Robert Dreyfuss on 03/16/2010 @ 1:00pm
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/..._vs_israel

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How Petraeus could swing thinking on Israel

His belated recognition that U.S. and Israeli interests aren't always intertwined has particular impact

By Andrew Bacevich

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/0...index.html



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The ADL targeting ….Gen. Petraeus?
Kelley Beaucar Vlahos, March 19, 2010

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/03/19/t...-petraeus/

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Israel is Boss


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=cont...srael-boss

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Friday, Mar 19, 2010 04:20 EDT
Rampant patriotism breaches on America's right

By Glenn Greenwald

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_...index.html

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“If anti-Semitism didn’t exist, Zionists would have to invent it.
And in many cases, that is precisely what they have done.”

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/...5707.shtml
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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Thanks for all that Ed. Lots to go through there. :beer:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Ed Jewett Wrote:Similarly, I did also reach out to a known contact [someone who has been closely associated with high military officials for most of his long adult life, including most recently a former XO of a missile boomer] for affirmation and got it -- alas, non-attributable -- that the US military -- at the intel level -- is well-aware that 18 Arabs with boxcutters "run" by some fellow with a kidney illness living in a cave somewhere in the Hindu Kush could not have pulled off this event.

But you don't have had to have earned a doctorate from Harvard with a five-year billet in military intel as a G-2 to be able to figure this out.


Reassuring and disturbing at the same time.

That was a hell of a post Ed.

The Sabrosky Youtube clip has already been pulled but there's other fascinating stuff there, Luttwak's 'Coup d'Etat' in particular. I think it can be more accurately traced to DP than 9/11 though. 9/11 was so over the top, I think they had to be already in control of all the levers to even consider it.

It seems like the west is now waking up to the elephant in the living room and the MSM can't stop the momentum. But we'll see.......
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Good stuff Ed.

Quote:Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground: our CIA and Israel's Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the “who benefits” principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly with the neo-con’s agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American military power to destroy Israel’s enemies. Only the unexpected strength of the Iraqi resistance kept Syria and Iran from being attacked in the second Bush Administration. Thus, the evidential trail for 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq run from PNAC, AIPAC and their cohorts; through the mostly Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration; and back to the Israeli government. None of the denials and political machinations can alter that essential reality. Terms such as treason, betrayal and deceit do not overstate the case against them.

When two or more agendas collide action inevitably follows
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11

by Gordon Duff


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DR ALAN SABROSKY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES AT THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE
“ISRAEL DID IT”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Meet Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a brave man, a USMC Vietnam vet, an American of Jewish ancestry and someone devoted to the security of the United States at any cost. Ask any Jew what it takes to stand up against the most powerful and ruthless group in the world, the Israeli lobby inside the United States.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsdNl_13...r_embedded


more about “SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11 “, posted with vodpod


Sabrosky has been calling for a new 9/11 investigation for some time. What makes him unique is that we have a Jew who can hardly be called “self-hating” or “anti-Semitic” or against Israel. He is consistent in everything he says. His point is that you are an American or you are an Israeli but you can’t be both, especially now with Zionism turning Israeli foreign policy into a “runaway train.” 9/11, as Sabrosky sees it was the watershed in a relationship between America and Israel that has gone from bad to unsurviveable, especially for America. He contents that AIPAC exercises near total control over the electoral process in America through the ability to outspend any other group and destroy anyone who stands against them.


The unwillingness of the US to stand with the international community on humanitarian and war crime issues where Israel is found in continual violation is, to Sabrosky, a critial issue. In discussion the US and her lack of support for the Goldstone Report, Sabrosky says:


US criticism of the HRC resolution should be disregarded, as Washington only parrots Israel’s wishes here…
… it might have been better to have included Goldstone’s condemnation of Hamas offenses as well, but it is legitimate as it stands for five reasons: (1) Israel committed the great majority of the violations; (2) Israel had an overwhelming preponderance of military power; (3) Palestinians suffered almost all of the death and destruction; (4) Israel has a long, sordid history of ignoring UN commissions and resolutions, and of attacking UN facilities and killing UN staff, as when the clearly marked UNRWA facility in Gaza was bombed; and (5) the HRC focus is properly on the actions of the oppressor (Israel) and not on those of the oppressed (the Palestinians).
Another is that it did not accord Israel the right of self-defense. But Israel’s claim to self-defense in its savaging of Gaza is specious, because Israel — like all occupiers and oppressors — has no inherent right of self-defense against its victims. Who, for instance, would have accepted Nazi Germany’s assertion that its brutal reprisals against the Czechs for their assassination of a Nazi commander named Reinhard Heydrich was an exercise in self-defense? No one, and no one should accept Israel’s claim, either.

A third is that holding Israel accountable for its actions will somehow endanger the Middle East peace process. But there is no peace process, simply meaningless discussions to the dead end (for Palestinians and the rest of the region) of Israeli hegemony, and under Netanyahu or any electable government in Israel, there is not and cannot be one. There will be an enforced peace imposed from outside of the Middle East, over the objections and obstruction of Israel, or there will be none at all.

ZIONISM AND ISRAELI NATIONALISM
This is how Sabrosky describes the nature of Jewish nationalism as described within the term we call “Zionism”:
The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of other countries and cultures here I think are fourfold:
1. Zionism is a real witches’ brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism and militarism that places it way outside of a “mere” nationalist context — for example, when I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indication whatsoever that the Provisional Irish Republican Army or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had a shred of design on shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country, although there may well have been a handful who thought that way — and goes far beyond the misery for others professed by the Nazis;
2. Zionism undermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way that other nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism) did not — e.g. a large majority of American Jews, including those who are not openly dual citizens, espouse a form of political bigamy called “dual loyalty” (to Israel and the US) that is every bit as dishonest as marital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to Israel over the US (lots of Rahm Emanuels out there who served in the Israeli army but NOT in the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense of national or cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racial group in America — even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany and the US went to war, with almost all of its members volunteering for the US armed forces;
3. The “enemy” of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America’s target list); and
4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants) intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s) — it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more common of successful colonialist movements as in the US — and perhaps a reason why most Americans wouldn’t care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech fashion.

Sabrosky is one of the few Americans who sees the nuclear threat of Israel as it is, blackmailing the United States, not only in how it could be used to draw America into an unwanted war, but how it could actually be used at some point to attack the United States itself. Only recently, Israel put Western Europe on notice that it would be attacked if its actions threatened Israel, attacked by nuclear weaons from Israel without warning. Martin van Creveld’s threat combined with Sabrosky’s analysis of Israeli intentions and culpability for 9/11 brings to mind something Sabrosky had once written.


He has always seen Moshe Dyan as a hero. Dyan saw Israel’s military role as that of a “junk yard dog,” ready to bite without warning, attack anything and anyone. Sabrosky notes that, eventually such an animal is always put down or as he puts it, ”the preferred response of everyone else is to kill that mad dog before it can decide to go berserk and bite.”

9/11
Sabrosky makes a case, not just for a coverup of 9/11 but goes much further. He points out as do so many that the physics of the attack are unworkable. He, however, is one of the few to point to a conclusion many find obvious but few have the nerve to admit, that it would have been impossible to stage 9/11 without the full resources of both the CIA and Mossad and that 9/11 served the interests of both agencies quite well.
There was nothing they could have wished for more.


Sabrosky also makes a point involving media coverage of 9/11:
Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath.

ZIONISM AND TREASON
The inescapable point isnt the 60,000 Americans killed or wounded in a war started out of treason or the world it threatens to destroy. Americans have been looking away from these glaring realities the way they looked away from Vietnam. Sabrosky leaves Israel and her American Jewish supporters who he sees as traitors with a warning:


If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering — and the suffering we have inflicted on others — is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault.

Do we take Sabrosky seriously because he is a Marine or a Jew? Do we wonder why the things he says reach so few? Is American in a shooting war where our biggest enemy sits behind us, killing us off, robbing us blind and whispering gently in our ears how much they love us?


It would seem so.


http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.co...el-to-911/
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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Note that there are three more additional "parts" on the YouTube series ...
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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Ed Jewett: if you are seeking this man for an interview you might try:

http://www.123people.at/s/alan+sabrosky/united+states

If you know where he lives you can narrow the search down. It might not give you his email but it might, and you might be able to get a street address and then call information to get his home phone.

I listened to his interview on Ugly Truth podcast last night. My impression is he didn't offer any evidence he has for calling 911 a Mossad operation, although he might have some. All I heard was bluster. You might be able to get more contact details through the Army War College.
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Thanks, Helen. I did not get a "mailerdaemon" on the sending of my e-mail, so I believe I have an accurate address, one that was repeated in several recent article taglines as his "contact". I may continue to make an effort, but I suspect at the moment he is inundated with work, inquiries, etc. His commentary is suddenly widely available, and he appears to have set aside material in preparation for a "blitz" or he is quite prolific.

What I was after was not "evidence" but some better sense of his comment about "the military" knows...

Who?
Retired petty officers and Marine corporals? I was hoping he'd have leads to articles by leading currently-active or "influential" military leaders. Such information -- to the extent that it exists -- would be very interesting in terms of military affairs, US politics, and foreign policy. Some of that has been posted and shows appropriately-careful wording. Furthermore, there are web sites [Patriots for 9/11 Truth] that lists hundreds if not thousands names of people within the US government, military, foreign service, intel fields and other disciplines who are calling for a new investigation.

As for evidence, that is widely available in some corners where it has not been buried under a blizzard of counter-propaganda or the typical hasbara brigade flurry of counter-charges et al. Israeli/Zionist methods, technologies, ownership and management roles, are spread across the event. Let me be clear that I do not think Israel or the Mossad did this alone; neither do I think that certain limited US people did this alone.

This "evidence' -- recognizing that it cannot be called evidence until it is examined closely by a range of people from various disciplines, under certain rules of procedure and evidence and so on ... hey, there are JFK veterans here by the dozens ... or in some formal "court" of inquiry. The 9/11 Commission and its post-adjunct efforts haven't begun any such examination.

But if you need someone to post up a range of "exhibits", that can certainly be done.

What logical extrusions were possible would then be open to those here at "Deep Politics".
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