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Nuclear Blast Victims Would Have to Wait for Obamacare
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Nuclear Blast Victims Would Have to Wait for Obamacare

April 14th, 2010 Via: USA Today:
The White House has warned state and local governments not to expect a “significant federal response” at the scene of a terrorist nuclear attack for 24 to 72 hours after the blast, according to a planning guide.
President Obama told delegates from 47 nations at the Nuclear Security Summit on Tuesday that it would be a “catastrophe for the world” if al-Qaeda or another terrorist group got a nuclear device, because so many lives would be lost and it would be so hard to mitigate damage from the blast.
A 10-kiloton nuclear explosion would level buildings within half a mile of ground zero, generate 900-mph winds, bathe the landscape with radiation and produce a plume of fallout that would drift for hundreds of miles, the guide says. It was posted on the Internet and sent to local officials.
The document is designed to help local officials craft plans for responding to a nuclear blast. The prospect is anything but far-fetched, says Rick Nelson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “Do I think in my lifetime I’ll see the detonation of a nuclear device? I do.”
One challenge he says, will be to persuade survivors to stay indoors, shielded from dangerous radiation until they’re given the all-clear or told to evacuate. “In all likelihood, families will be separated,” he says. “It’s going to be scary to sit tight, though it’s the right thing to do.”
The government’s planning scenarios envision a terrorist strike in an urban area with a 10-kiloton device, slightly smaller than the roughly 15-kiloton Hiroshima bomb. A 10-kiloton device packs the punch of 10,000 tons of TNT.
The chaos that would inevitably follow such a blast would make it difficult for the federal government to react quickly. “Emergency response is principally a local function,” the document says, though “federal assistance will be mobilized as rapidly as possible.”
The “Planning Guidance for Response to a Nuclear Detonation” was developed by a task force headed by the White House Homeland Security Council. It was circulated to state and local government officials and first responders in January 2009.
The report has never been formally released to the public, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro says.
It offers practical guidance to first responders and advice on radiation measurement and decontamination.
Disaster experts say local governments aren’t prepared for a nuclear attack. “There isn’t a single American city, in my estimation, that has sufficient plans for a nuclear terrorist event,” says Irwin Redlener of Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.
The message for families is simple, he says: Stay put. Wait for instructions. If you’ve been outside, dust off, change, shower. “What citizens need to know fits on a wallet-sized card,” Redlener says. “A limited amount of information would save tens of thousands of people.”
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Quote:The message for families is simple, he says: Stay put. Wait for instructions. If you’ve been outside, dust off, change, shower. “What citizens need to know fits on a wallet-sized card,” Redlener says. “A limited amount of information would save tens of thousands of people.”

What a relief!I always thought a nuclear blast would vaporize me.I have a whole new outlook on life now..........:vroam:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
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Keith Millea Wrote:
Quote:The message for families is simple, he says: Stay put. Wait for instructions. If you’ve been outside, dust off, change, shower. “What citizens need to know fits on a wallet-sized card,” Redlener says. “A limited amount of information would save tens of thousands of people.”
What a relief!I always thought a nuclear blast would vaporize me.I have a whole new outlook on life now..........:vroam:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
'Duck and cover' any one?
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Magda Hassan Wrote::rofl::rofl::rofl:
'Duck and cover' any one?

The adventures of Bert the Turtle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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The attitudes present within the leadership (currently Obama and Hilary) are particularly annoying. I take all this as propaganda supportive of the recent nuclear meetings and initiatives; the suggestion is that it will be a nuke smaller than that used in Hiroshima, thus presumably the consequences will be limited to one neighborhood, or maybe just a few blocks in either direction, followed on by reports that the authorities in Georgia have stopped a shipment of plutonium. I'm sure the propaganda game has advanced even more, but I haven't yet begun my daily tour of the Internet.

Frankly, the Federal government has done more damage in its cavalier approach to urban centers and housing [see Catherine Austin Fitts' works] than a small nuke could accomplish; they will look at such an event merely as urban renewal.

What grates me especially is the throw-away line by Obama that disaster response-ability belongs first at the local level (he's right), yet his agencies treat it with the opposite approach.

References are available for what follows. I am not blowing my own horn so much as saying that the information is out there, yet little community organizing is happening in these matters. The curriculum, the drills, the technology, etc. come from the top down, and then (as in Katrina), they pull out at the critical moment, and they fail to allow communities to work independently. FEMA and Homeland Security (as suggested by Ed Encho's work on MainCore and the many articles by "Anti-Fascist Calling") is too busy preparing for other things. Sophisticated computer simulation is used more as a predictive, controlling tool -- how to pull off capers -- than it is as an educational tool. The LSU project involving Madhi Beriwal to simulate the impact of a Category V hurricane in New Orleans was chopped off at the knees at its conclusive coalescent moment because FEMA refused to spend $15K (at the height of the GWOT militarism) to have its functionaries attend and print and distribute and play their own role. The hurricane arrived shortly thereafter. The SAIC-related efforts out at Purdue and Los Alamos are focused on pandemics and other things.

There is a vast treasure trove of work done by Enrico Quarantelli and his teams at the Disaster Research Center; I have quoted extensively from some of his monographs. There was, in earlier years, a fine effort by the American Red Cross to express in educational terms the spatial realities of incident and response, since incorporated into my further work. I wrote an article and proposal that drew the curious attention of someone in a cubicle down at Langley because it drew on the wisdom and research of then-secret TRADOC simulation training; he went away satisfied when I quoted him the publications I had read. When, decades later, I was invited to an interview with computer programmers working for the creators of that effort (but now in a separate company, working on full-range distributed-to- desktop 24/7/365 all-force war games, and with DARPA funding), the project director tossed a copy of that article on the table and pointed to its masthead and said "check the publication date". The Department of Justice gave my proposal to an interactive game design company called BreakAway Games which created "Incident Commander" but then took it into a setting where only approved people could participate in that learning environment (but not me). I think they neglected to understand that I had withheld, in my publication, a critical "gear" in the design -- a master key, if you will --- because the game appeared to have become a kludge. I did get that job, by the way, and designed the inner workings of a computer game whose matrix or engine forced people to communicate with one another so as to learn critical information. During that same time period, I was in touch with trainers* for the elite military units known as CBRNE teams, now known as "Consequence Management Response Force". The CCMRF is the CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear and High-Yield Explosives) Consequence Management Response Force.

In 2008:
http://www.army.mil/-news/2008/09/15/124...n-command/

In 2009: http://www.army.mil/standto/archive/2009/09/02/

http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/TUTC...072809.pdf

So we know the Feds have the capability -- equipped, trained, pre-positioned on American soil.

[*The event was memorable to me because I had discussed with them some of the materials in my performance psychology compendium; the little ditty on teamwork, grpahite and diamond posted elsewhere in "Other" was of particular interest to them. ]
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Some later, when DARPA and the USDA axed the project, and after the cluster**** that is known as Katrina, I advised a physician friend of mine not to travel 750 miles to New Orleans to lend a hand. We had watched together, virtually, the damn storm march across the Gulf (it was like watching a professional curveball in slow motion) and knew what was happening (and what was not happening). I told her of the concept known as "dysfunctional mass convergence" (a Quarantelli observation), and she started asking more questions. After a two-hour conversation on Skype, she told me I needed to commit to paper what I had taught her. I told her I had already done that and no one paid attention; she said "do it again and make it stick". I wrote a 17-page thesis and she told me in no uncertain terms it was a piece of ____ and told me to go back to work. I spent three months of my time working and kneading something that eventually turned into a 57-page white paper on how, in the Internet age, to develop meaningful community development and planning. It was published by the International Association of Emergency Managers and it is used (in a dismissive, adjunctive way) inside a FEMA curriculum as an example of a "bottom-up" approach versus the preferred and almost universal "top-down" approach of the Federal government. The direct example of my earlier work -- the real response in a well-known industrial explosion incident in which 27 burn/trauma victims were extracted out to life-saving tertiary care in under an hour -- is taught within the FEMA as well, but they still don't see or understand what took place and how... the effective use of time/space/comprehension/communication/coordination within a rapidly-evolving, ever-changing event that moves across that same space and time.
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Planning Guidance for Response to a Nuclear Detonation: First Edition
The Homeland Security Council has just published the first edition of its planning guidance for responding to a nuclear detonation in the United States.
"The purpose of this guidance is to provide emergency planners with nuclear detonation-specific response recommendations to maximize the preservation of life in the event of an urban nuclear detonation. This guidance addresses the unique effects and impacts of a nuclear detonation such as scale of destruction, shelter and evacuation strategies, unparalleled medical demands, management of nuclear casualties, and radiation dose management concepts.
The guidance is aimed at response activities in an environment with a severely compromised infrastructure for the first few days when it is likely that many Federal resources will still be en route to the incident. The target audiences for the guidance are response planners and their leadership. Emergency responders should also benefit in understanding and applying this guidance."

http://www.afrri.usuhs.mil/outreach/pdf/...idance.pdf
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Why is FEMA trying to cover up NLE 10?
Public Intelligence
Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:21 EDT
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http://publicintelligence.net/why-is-fem...up-nle-10/
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/206850-Why-is-FEMA-trying-to-cover-up-...
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Public Intelligence
Public Intelligence has received a request from FEMA to remove a "For Official Use Only" document regarding the National Level Exercise 2010 (NLE 10), which was scheduled for this coming May. The exercise was to be based on National Planning Scenario 1 which simulates a nuclear detonation in a U.S. city. However, recent political pressure has led to the exercise being "scaled back" according to the Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor and a variety of other publications. At the behest of Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), the exercise's Nevada events have reportedly been canceled and the FEMA website now shows no mention of NLE 10.
On top of this, the Obama administration has recently been emphasizing the threat of a domestic nuclear attack. President Obama's remarks at the Nuclear Security Summit on April 13, 2010 emphasize that the threat of terrorists using nuclear weapons inside of major metropolitan cities is one of the "greatest threats" that the world faces:
Two decades after the end of the Cold War, we face a cruel irony of history - the risk of a nuclear confrontation between nations has gone down, but the risk of nuclear attack has gone up.
Nuclear materials that could be sold or stolen and fashioned into a nuclear weapon exist in dozens of nations. Just the smallest amount of plutonium - about the size of an apple - could kill and injure hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Terrorist networks such as al Qaeda have tried to acquire the material for a nuclear weapon, and if they ever succeeded, they would surely use it. Were they to do so, it would be a catastrophe for the world - causing extraordinary loss of life, and striking a major blow to global peace and stability.
In short, it is increasingly clear that the danger of nuclear terrorism is one of the greatest threats to global security - to our collective security.
NLE 10 concerned itself with exactly this scenario: the detonation of a nuclear device inside of a U.S. city. Las Vegas was to be the epicenter of this hypothetical attack and, if the exercise utilized the same circumstances as National Planning Scenario 1, it would have involved "hundreds of thousands" of casualties, more than 300,000 refugees and ultimately more than 1 million displaced persons.
The unpopularity of such a scenario, regardless of its security benefits, is obvious. What is strange is the attempt that is now being made by FEMA to eliminate references to the exercises and remove from circulation a document that has played an important role in drawing attention to the exercise. As the state of NLE 10 is unclear at the moment, it is difficult to say whether the request is truly motivated by security or whether there is a more dubious intention.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/23171
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GORDON DUFF: STAGE BEING SET FOR “DIRTY BOMB” FALSE FLAG


April 24, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 79 Comments



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“CHATTER” FLOWING IN FROM EVERYWHERE

“SUITCASE” NUKE SAID TO BE IN PLACE
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Rumors of an upcoming terror attack to be blamed on Iran are moving around the world, “backchannel chatter.” The primary suspect is Israel who is said to have a number of small “suitcase” type nuclear weapons, some primarily “dirty bombs,” possibly supplied secretly by a previous US administration. These devices are in the “40 ton” range, highly radioactive, extremely small and can be engineered to leave the signature of a primitive device. They were originally designed for use against Soviet armor and troop concentrations in Europe if a massed attack on NATO were to occur. Current conventional systems have made this type of weapon obsolete.
We have been told that federal authorities have interviewed, on video, a prominent individual with specific knowledge of the possession of this type of weapon.
This won’t be in the news. All that “every day folks” will see is a story here or one there that don’t make sense. Why would “ultra-Liberal” Senator Chuck Schumer, nightmare “anti-gun” nut, extreme lefty and staunch New York democrat turn on the president? In fact, why are extreme liberals and conservatives all attacking President Obama and, less visibly, our military leaders, all at the same time? Who is orchestrating this oddest turn of political events in recent history? Why would the Pentagon ban Reverend Billy Graham’s son from a prayer breakfast as an “Islamophobe?”
Dad, the famous Reverend Billy Graham, primary spiritual advisor to every American president since Harry Truman held different views.
Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a “stranglehold” during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives.[Image: ScreenHunter_03-Apr.-24-15.21.gif]This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain,” the nation’s best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life. “You believe that?” Nixon says after the “stranglehold” comment. “Yes, sir,” Graham says. “Oh, boy,” replies Nixon. “So do I. I can’t ever say that but I believe it.” “No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something,” Graham replies.

Consider this report as a form of “innocualtion,” meant to prevent an unseemly accident.
EVER WONDER WHY OVER 80% OF AMERICAN’S DON’T TRUST CONGRESS?

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FACE THE FACTS
Israel has never been in more trouble today, not from any imaginary Arab armies or a “holocaust” from Iran, a country with only minor defensive weaponry, a 4th rate military power, for those who really pay attention to these things. Israel has gotten in trouble because of “chickens coming home to roost.” Americans and Europeans have been conditioned by the press, yes, Israel controls the press in the US, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, to ignore ethnic cleansing and war crimes in Palestine. Years of news and “infotainment” along with movies and TV series, always depicting Palestinians as crazed murders has done its job, covered mass murder in ways that Josef Goebbels could never do for Hitler.
Things started to go wrong for Israel when top military leaders became increasingly suspicious of 9/11. None will openly admit to it, but as years have gone on, and Iraq and Afghanistan could no longer be called real security issues for the US, an unspoken movement toward lending a suspicious eye to Israeli involvement in 9/11 has festered. Israel’s hand in propagandizing our news has become too obvious for trained observers to miss, with the direction not “pro-Israel” but looking more like a country covering for crimes.
This is the potential list:
  • Possible complicity in some part of 9/11 with or without help from groups in the US and one other Middle Eastern nation known to secretly finance Israeli operations but pretending to be a “blood enemy” of the Jews
  • Israeli complicity in massive financial crimes in the US, including engineering of the sub-prime mortgage collapse as an operation meant to destabilize the United States. That current financial reforms meant to prevent a repeat of this, pushed by President Obama (and military leaders) is opposed by groups financed by the Israeli lobby is a “smoking gun.”
  • Terrorist attacks in Iraq, Russia, Iran and Pakistan carry clear signs of involvement of one or more intelligence agencies being involved, among them Israel.
  • Israeli political machinations backed by a massive propaganda and disinformation campaign attempting to justify an unprovoked attack on Iran, disinformation including “holocaust” rhetoric and clearly falsified intelligence on Iran’s non-existent nuclear program are an almost perfect repeat of the same operation that pushed the Bush administration to mistakenly attack Iraq. Note this classic example of disinformation propaganda, conditioning “the west” to expect a dirty bomb attack: Debka/Israel Hoax and, more “cover” still from Israeli stooge Mikhail Saakashvili.
  • Nuclear threats made by “extremists” in Israel against Western Europe went unheeded and the desired outcry of support for an attack on Iran never materialized. Israel would never have allowed prominent sources in its defense establishment to voice “crazy threats” to “nuke Rome” unless some purpose were served.
  • Highly orchestrated attacks on the Obama administration, now finally working in close association with top military leaders, is meant to destabilize the US. Moving threats against the US, the engineering of a new market collapse by Goldman Sachs, an ineffective attack by Israel on Iran, cutting off all oil to the west or attempts by Israeli controlled media giants to forment civil unrest in the US are all “on the table” and being pushed forward.
HOW AMERICA’S MILITARY HAS CHANGED
The deteriorating situation in Iraq and Afghanistan have tied down so many resources that our defense capabilities, the contingency response that our defense planners have spent years creating and over a trillion dollars financing is a shambles. We are trucking supplies hundreds of miles through enemy territory to resupply in Afghanistan, that and flying everything thousands of miles across Russia followed by more trucking, hundreds of miles across enemy territory again. In the process, we are paying hundreds of millions of dollars a year to our own enemies, simply to keep ourselves in Twinkies and Ho Hos.
America is saddled with an incompetent and corrupt ally who has hopelessly embroiled us in his endless and ineffective plots, all with a massive subtext of drug dealing, selling weapons to the enemy and double dealing with foreign intelligence services.
How we got here is no secret and military leaders are unhappy. America got herself led into these disasters for the good of, not Israeli security but a series of intrigues, more like a chess match, playing country against country, while raking in cash selling weapons to everyone, including the US and India, but, less overtly, to Iran and the Taliban as well. These are some of the worst kept secrets in the world. Even President Obama knows, heaven forbid.
ONLY A NEW 9/11 CAN BAIL ISRAEL OUT
With massive control of news organization, half our top retired military leaders taking regularly paid “junkets” to Israel and 363 members of congress indicating an “unbreakable bond” with Israel, no matter what they are caught doing, and they have been caught so many times, starting with the 1956 Suez/Sinai invasion, the 1967 USS Liberty attack, which helped Israel sell the idea that they were attacked when quite the opposite is true, the belief is that that a new “false flag” attack can be covered easily.
Who could blame Israel, poor beleaguered country, the only “democracy” in the Middle East surrounded by vicious and dirty Arabs trying to sneak in and cut throats of small children in school?
We have already seen the stories about Iran’s planned “holocaust’ and how they are going to invade Israel, a technical impossibility” and set up gas chambers, start making soap and lamp shades out of Jews. If anything warns America that an attack is coming, hearing both “holocaust” and seeing Charles Schumer attacking a democratic president should be warning enough.
The rumors are that the weapons are in place in Europe and the US. “The usual suspects,” Arabs, Persians, Pakistanis, some kind of Islamic terrorist group has either been recruited, invented or is being thawed out. News stories are in place and with 9/11, film crews are ready to be onsite. Witnesses will be briefed, all to say, “yes it was an Arab dirty bomb, we saw them, Middle Eastern looking, they must have bought it from North Korea.”
That kind of story would hit the news within seconds from “stunned survivors” who will suddenly disappear, returning quickly to “you know where.”
Glenn Beck will cry.
LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES HAVE ALWAYS GOTTEN MARCHING ORDERS FROM TEL AVIV
Americans have the rare privilege of seeing the GOP, NRA, Fox News and the Tea Baggers aligned with 250 or is it 300 or 400, we aren’t sure, members of congress that have signed a letter promising to support Israel, in this case, against the interests of the United States. The names of those involved is difficult to find. A search of 100 stories on this subject has failed to give a list. Blog after blog is requesting the list of those who signed the letter but even Israeli papers don’t print it.
Sites claiming to list the members signing now show “FORBIDDEN” or “NO LONGER AVAILABLE.”
What we do know is that congress’s most liberal members, those most outspoken for gun control and all of those listed by the Tea Bag movements and GOP as the most liberal and “unpatriotic” of our politicians are now lined up with the supporters of Goldman Sachs and all, the most conservative and most liberal, are signed up against the President and the Pentagon, aligned with Israel.
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, the entire “liberal” and “conservative” political hoopla of the last few years is turning out to be a subterfuge to keep Americans from uniting together to regain control of their own country, a control that, for awhile, ran our military, our intelligence services and even the oval office.
Now it runs only Congress, no party, just those addicted to AIPAC/Israeli funding more than allegiance to the United States of America.
What they may earn us through this “moral flexibility” and indifference to allegiance to their own country is another major terrorist attack. These same members of congress will receive the call, be told how to vote, what to say and exactly what they get in return, same as with Iraq.
Ah, the foibles of living in a democracy for sale to the highest bidder!
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Al-Qaeda leaders said to have ordered attack on New York subway system
By Jerry Markon
Saturday, April 24, 2010; A04


Two top al-Qaeda leaders ordered an attack on the New York subway system, in what authorities call one of the most serious terrorism plots on American soil since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, before they were apparently killed in U.S. missile strikes, a criminal defendant in the plot and law enforcement officials said Friday.
Zarein Ahmedzay, a New York City taxi driver, pleaded guilty to federal charges in a Brooklyn courtroom, testifying that he plotted suicide attacks in Manhattan in September, during the month of Ramadan. Ahmedzay said he conspired with Najibullah Zazi, an airport shuttle bus driver who had earlier pleaded guilty in the plot. Federal officials have said their plan was in its final stages when it was thwarted.
Ahmedzay, 24, told a judge that he, Zazi and another person met along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in August 2008 with two top al-Qaeda officials, who ordered them to return to the United States and conduct attacks. The primary target was the New York City subway, where the group planned to detonate potent explosives.
Federal prosecutors identified the officials Friday as Saleh al-Somali, al-Qaeda's head of international operations, and Rashid Rauf, a key operative for the terrorist group.
Authorities have identified Rauf as one of the planners of a 2006 plot to blow up simultaneously as many as 10 U.S.-bound passenger jets with liquid explosives hidden in carry-on luggage. He is believed to have been killed by a missile fired by an unmanned U.S. drone aircraft in November 2008.
Somali, a senior al-Qaeda planner, ran its operations outside the Afghanistan-Pakistan region. He was apparently killed in a similar strike in December, U.S. counterterrorism officials have said.
The subway plot was stopped when Zazi aroused the interest of FBI agents and police by driving a rented car to New York days before the planned attack; authorities stopped his vehicle on a bridge into Manhattan. Obama administration officials, challenged by Republican critics over their handling of national security threats, have raised the case as an example of how the U.S. justice system can handle complex terrorism matters.
A lawyer for Ahmedzay, a U.S. citizen and resident of Queens, N.Y., did not return telephone calls Friday. Ahmedzay pleaded guilty to conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction and to providing material support to al-Qaeda. He faces a sentence of up to life in prison.
Ahmedzay, Zazi and the third person, also a U.S. resident, told the al-Qaeda leaders during the August 2008 meeting that they wanted to fight in Afghanistan. They were told they would be more useful if they returned to New York and carried out suicide attacks, according to court testimony and federal officials.
Law enforcement officials identified the third man as Adis Medunjanin, who has also been charged in the plot. He has pleaded not guilty.
The three received weapons training and spoke further with the al-Qaeda leadership, who emphasized the need to hit well-known structures in Manhattan, with maximum casualties, officials said. The three Americans later met up in Queens and agreed to carry out suicide bombings during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which ran from Aug. 22 to Sept. 20, 2009.
Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/23/AR2010042302807_pf.html
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