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Bombshell:Fox News hit piece inadvertently reveals Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11
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Adrian Mack Wrote:
Quote:The homework has been done; the information is there to see (or to not see).
Having the 9/11 Commission account for its omissions, conflicts of interest and outright lies is all it would take. No controlled demolition necessary.


Maybe there is an investment banker somewhere who would help us fashion a good CDO on that. While you are waiting for the 9/11 Commission to account for its weaknesses and failures, the Federal Reserve will print up some gold bars and mail them out to all previously indebted citizens.

The Warren Commission was patched and re-patched on multiple occasions by multiple people, including Gerald Ford on several occasions and by GHWB on the occasion of Ford's death. The 9/11 Commission was a set-up and a put-up from the beginning, and its supporters live on in the Presidency, inside the White House (Cass Sunstein), and in multiple chairs inside the Congress and the Senate. The entire system is as criminal and corrupt as it can be. One need only understand how AIG came to be, what it and its players control or controlled, and do a little homework about machinery, software, business ownerships, and the like. We will likely have a worldwide conflagration before anyone can get around to moving the issue in any meaningful way. There will be no awakening, enlightenment or transformations; the crooks own the soporifics, the mesmerizers, the spies and the assassins. What there will be is more Kabuki theater, more destruction, more theft and more graft, until the creaking monstrosity comes down in a crash due to its own weight and the hollowing out given it by its very owners. Any day now... rinse the sand off those sweet potatoes. No need to order cocktail sauce with your gulf shrimp cocktail anymore; it comes packed in its own heavy crude.
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Malcolm Pryce Wrote:This seems to me to be a misinterpretation of the New Pearl Harbour thesis. When the neo-cons called for a NPH they were simply referring to the shock value of Pearl Harbour in galvanising American public opinion to accept a radical militarisation of society. It makes no difference who the pilots were or who they were fighting.

As for MIHOP, LIHOP or your new PIHOP, the fact remains that US troops were preparing in July to go into Afghanistan in September so they knew damn well the attack was coming. I don't believe PIHOP is that accurate.

As for LIHOP, the problem is, it sounds nice on paper but out in the real world, as I understand it, you simply cannot allow such latitude and have to take control of every aspect of such a plan, hence MIHOP. To see what I mean, consider the famous case of Hani Hanjour the miracle pilot who did the famous corkscrew dive on his alleged approach to the Pentagon. This aeronautical manoeuvre ensured he flew into the empty wedge of the Pentagon and missed the offices of the Joint Chiefs. Now imagine you were Rumsfeld on the morning of 9/11 sitting in your office knowing the attack was on the way. You know, too, the suicide bomber has given you his solemn word that he will fly into the back of the building and miss you at the front. How do you feel? Confident that he will keep his word? I think not. There's no way you can rely on that to happen. Hence the use of a missile to hit a pre-ordained spot.

That's my take on it anyway.


The neocon manifesto called for a Peal Harbor type of attack to rally the public to support an invasion of Iraq.
Just attacking one of our ships as they did the Stark would not be enough. Nor stepping on our Ambassador's foot at the UN. They said we NEED another Pearl Harbor.
That's why I pointed out the fact that we provoked the Japanese to attack us which you weren't even aware of. Al Qaeda had been planning the plane attack on the US for seven years so this is not about preparing in August for a September attack. US forces were already preparing for an invasion of Iraq for several years. Your idea that they could move into action in a few weeks is ludicrous.
You assume you know why the pilot chose the path he did. Maybe his original target was the White House and at the last second decided to hit the Pentagon instead. I am sure that he did not study the floorplan and know exactly where Rumsfeld was every second. Likewise I said nothing about Rumsfeld knowing every detail of the attack, so leave that straw man out.
FYI, the debris on the lawn indicates a plane rather than a missile.
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#33
Quote:Maybe there is an investment banker somewhere who would help us fashion a good CDO on that. While you are waiting for the 9/11 Commission to account for its weaknesses and failures, the Federal Reserve will print up some gold bars and mail them out to all previously indebted citizens.

The Warren Commission was patched and re-patched on multiple occasions by multiple people, including Gerald Ford on several occasions and by GHWB on the occasion of Ford's death. The 9/11 Commission was a set-up and a put-up from the beginning, and its supporters live on in the Presidency, inside the White House (Cass Sunstein), and in multiple chairs inside the Congress and the Senate. The entire system is as criminal and corrupt as it can be. One need only understand how AIG came to be, what it and its players control or controlled, and do a little homework about machinery, software, business ownerships, and the like. We will likely have a worldwide conflagration before anyone can get around to moving the issue in any meaningful way. There will be no awakening, enlightenment or transformations; the crooks own the soporifics, the mesmerizers, the spies and the assassins. What there will be is more Kabuki theater, more destruction, more theft and more graft, until the creaking monstrosity comes down in a crash due to its own weight and the hollowing out given it by its very owners. Any day now... rinse the sand off those sweet potatoes. No need to order cocktail sauce with your gulf shrimp cocktail anymore; it comes packed in its own heavy crude.
I wish I could find it in my heart to disagree with any of that, or at least argue for a glimmer of hope.
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Problem is...it still wasn't hot enough to bring the buildings down in the manner that they came down. All that steel...and aluminum doesn't just heat up at the same time and come down at the same time...totally contrary to both the laws of physics and thermodynamics. The manner that the buildings came down...evenly, everything coming down at the same time, suggests controlled demolition. And if heat supposedly brought WTC 1 and 2 down...why did the South Tower fall first...when the North Tower was hit first...and with a far more direct hit ?
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