published:22:06, 5 october 2012| updated:22:21, 5 october 2012
a nephew of sir jimmy savile yesterday told how his celebrity uncle attended paedophile parties'.
Guy marsden was just 13 when uncle jimmy' took him to a wealthy celebrity's house in london in 1967 for the first of many sordid social gatherings.
Over the next 18 months, guy and his friends went to numerous parties' where he believes men sexually abused girls and boys as young as ten. Savile was at many of these events, he said.
Guy and his teenage friends were used as intermediaries' to hang out with the younger victims. Guy, now 59, said the youngsters would disappear into the bedrooms with men and return later.
He said there were never any women' at the parties and although he didn't see any sexual abuse, it was perfectly obvious' what was happening. Several household names from the world of showbusiness were party regulars.
Guy said savile sometimes arrived with a man dressed as a priest and he believed the young victims may have come from an orphanage or children's home.
He has regularly spoken to friends about his experiences in the late 1960s, but no one took him seriously until this week's revelations.
i have loved all this coming out about jimmy and i feel guilty i didn't do something about it earlier,' he told the mail yesterday.
After savile died last year, guy was one of the relatives who publicly praised him. But he knew he was being a hypocrite. i felt as low and as bad as you can get not saying anything.'
other members of savile's family spoke out last week to condemn a tv programme alleging the dj sexually abused teenage girls, but the nephew said many relatives were aware of his sordid past.
The roofer from leeds later married and he now has four children and ten grandchildren with his wife anne.
But during his youth he was in and out of trouble and believes his seedy experiences in london were to blame for his problems.
Guy came from a large family his mother, who was savile's sister, gave birth to about 18' children and he grew up in a council house in leeds.
Uncle jimmy was always the family celebrity. it was like the beatles coming to your house,' recalled guy. he would drive us around in his rolls-royce and he gave us a colour television and a telephone.'
at 13, guy and three friends hitch-hiked to london for an adventure'. They returned home about five weeks later but regularly ran away to the capital for similar periods.
On the first trip in 1967, the group of boys went to euston station and were quickly invited to a grubby flat by men who recognised them as easy prey, although guy says he was never abused.
about four days later', jimmy savile turned up at the flat where they were staying. he recognised me and i thought "this is it, i'm going to get in big trouble here". I hadn't been in touch with my parents to tell them where i was. But uncle jimmy just took us away to a much better place.'
savile turned up by coincidence at the address because he mixed with fellow child molesters', said guy.
The group of runaways ended up in a fabulous house believed to belong to a famous pop impresario with a big indoor swimming pool. The celebrity home was one of the party venues.
at night you would get about 15 or 20 people turning up. There would be music and tables full of food, we couldn't believe it. There was everything we needed and we just hung around.
at first we automatically assumed the children lived there, but we soon realised they didn't. They would be brought there, sometimes by uncle jimmy, and would stay for six or seven hours until 3 or 4am. They were just little kids, boys and girls.
two or three would go off and come back later. The really strange thing was that they didn't come out the bedrooms kicking and screaming. None of them seemed to be in any distress, but there is no doubt at all in my mind what they were being used for.
They used to say they were "playing." you heard sounds and moans and groans coming from the bedroom and knew what was going on.'
guy said he believed he and his friends were there to keep the kids happy'. He said: i didn't think anything about it at the time, maybe because there was no such thing as paedophiles back then. I never saw jimmy savile sexually abuse any of the children, but as far as i am concerned he was part of a paedophile ring at those parties.'
the excursions ended when the teenager got into trouble with the law and was sent to borstal. In later life, guy said he put his past behind him and became close to savile. However, they never spoke about what happened and he was concerned that his mother should never find out.
although i was not sexually abused i do feel like a victim myself. I think i should have reported him years ago but i was too scared to do it.
now i am really pleased everyone knows the truth.'
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Sir Jimmy Savile was a made man.
Quote:In 1971 he was awarded the OBE,[45] which he always subsequently appended to his signature.
Jimmy Savile had both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)
He was a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)
Indeed. And a charmed life by the looks of it. Nothing stuck but it was known of for years.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Sir Jimmy Savile was a made man.
Quote:In 1971 he was awarded the OBE,[45] which he always subsequently appended to his signature.
Jimmy Savile had both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)
He was a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)
Indeed. And a charmed life by the looks of it. Nothing stuck but it was known of for years.
This is a deep political subject.
Savile was much decorated by British Royalty, and there are numerous allegations linking him as a procurer of children, mainly boys, to Sir Anthony Blunt and his circle. Blunt is a palimpsest. Officially the son of a vicar, Blunt was possibly a Royal bastard, who became a Professor of Art and Surveyor of the Queen's art collection. He was also a double and perhaps triple agent, the Fourth or Fifth Man depending on how you count.
Blunt was granted FULL IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION by the British government when it was proven beyond doubt that he was a Soviet agent.
Blunt was also a homosexual paedophile, and seems to have received full immunity from prosecution on this ground too.
Blunt was the Royal Child Bugger and Traitor. Carry On...
Savile is also linked as a procurer of children to Edward Heath, leader of the Conservative Party from 1965-75 and British Prime Minister from 1970-74.
Quote:Heath was known to visit the Jersey care home the Haut de la Garenne among others to take young boys on boating weekends on his yacht called Morning Cloud', or as bodyguards referred to it, Morning Sickness'.
Heath was warned on 4 occasions by the head of the Metropolitan police not to loiter in London's lavatories and not to try to pick up young boys.
In the deep political model, Savile is a Mechanic-come-Facilitator, but above Dutroux.
Dutroux was ultimately sacrificed as a mere Mechanic.
Savile was protected during his life.
Not by the likes of Heath or Blunt (although Blunt may be a Facilitator), but by those whose Power was reinforced by the leverage obtained by the perpetration of these paedophile horrors by those in position of influence.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Blunt was granted FULL IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION by the British government when it was proven beyond doubt that he was a Soviet agent.
Wasn't this at the insistence of the royal family? I seem to recall the collection of some important letters from over seas some where too.....
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Blunt was granted FULL IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION by the British government when it was proven beyond doubt that he was a Soviet agent.
Wasn't this at the insistence of the royal family? I seem to recall the collection of some important letters from over seas some where too.....
There are lots of corpses and skeletons in the Royal Estates.
Occasionally, some get found and then lost again.....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
More on the Haut de la Garenne Jersey and Savile link - (see the beginning of this thread):
Quote:A top human rights lawyer said that at least five women had told how they had been abused by Savile at the Haut
de la Garenne children's home in Jersey.
Alan Collins, a partner at the Manchester law firm Pannone, said:
"I have been involved in litigation relating to Haut de la Garenne for several years and Jimmy Savile's name came
up several times.
"I think I can confidently say that up to five people told me separately they had been abused by him."
The Daily Express has learned that Savile kept a "special room" where he took young girls after appearing at
the Empire Ballroom in Leeds in the late 1950s.
One woman said: "I was 14 and remember my older sister telling me that I must not go near the stage door
because Savile and another star kept a special room' where they took young girls.
"I'd wanted to get his autograph until then. I was terrified."
Quote: police in Jersey investigated Savile over claims that he sexually assaulted a girl at a children's home which later became the centre of an abuse inquiry. In 2008, a woman made a formal complaint that Savile molested her at the Haut de la Garenne home in the 1970s. A three-year, £7.5m investigation by Jersey police into historic child abuse in the island's care homes began after allegations of abuse.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Oh look - MSM starting to catch up, but still ignoring the 64,000 lb gorilla.
Quote:Jimmy Savile linked with Haut de la Garenne children's home scandal
Lenny Harper, former child abuse investigator, says he believes Savile was involved in indecent assault at Jersey institution
Josh Halliday guardian.co.uk, Monday 8 October 2012 19.15 BST
The former head of the Jersey child-abuse investigation at Haut de la Garenne said he now suspects that Sir Jimmy Savile was implicated in the scandal.
Lenny Harper said he has "no reason to doubt" that Savile was involved in indecent assault at the notorious Jersey children's home, despite there being insufficient evidence to question the Jim'll Fix It star at the time.
His testimony came as a solicitor who acted for victims of child abuse in Jersey told the Guardian that a handful of former Haut de la Garenne residents, both women and men, now claim they were assaulted by Savile in the 1970s.
The States of Jersey police confirmed last week that Savile was investigated as part of the 2008 inquiry into abuse at the children's home. That followed claims from a former Haut de la Garenne resident that Savile was involved in an indecent assault in the 1970s. The late BBC entertainer, who died last year aged 84, was never charged with any abuse offences.
Harper, who led the three-year child abuse probe, told the Guardian: "It's no big surprise to me about Savile and Jersey and it's not a surprise that a lot of the victims have come forward now.
"There definitely wasn't enough even to question him at the time, but in light of all the evidence that has come out, then I'm not surprised because it fits perfectly the profile of what was going on."
Asked whether he now believed Savile abused children at the home, Harper said: "I've no reason to doubt that he was involved."
He added that Jersey police did not receive any specific allegations of abuse against Savile in 2008, and that he was not one of the 18 main suspects being investigated.
Savile initially denied he had visited Haut de la Garenne when questioned by the Sun in 2008. He later agreed that he had after a photograph emerged of him in front of a building believed to be the children's home in St Martin.
Harper said the photograph, which shows Savile sitting on a lawn with more than a dozen children next to a sign that reads "Jim Fixed It For Us", did not greatly trouble police at the time, given the scale of their investigation.
Alan Collins, a solicitor for several Haut de la Garenne victims, said a handful of former residents had now made abuse allegations about Savile.
He said Savile's name was mentioned several times during the police investigation of 2008 but that the evidence did not seem to stack up.
Collins added: "During the case, Savile's name was mentioned several times. There was annoyance amongst some former residents that Savile had denied ever being at Haut de la Garenne when they clearly remembered him and were able to give a lot of circumstantial evidence to back this up. Moreover, a number of them produced a photograph showing them posing with Savile in what I am told are the gardens of the home.
"Many remember Savile visiting Jersey and in particular Haut de la Garenne circa 1969 and 1976. Amongst the various accounts of these visits were allegations of sexual abuse. At the time they seemed difficult to comprehend and my understanding is that the police had a similar experience although they possibly only investigated one account."
What was Haut de la Garenne about?
Was it just about Jim getting another cigar to stick in his stinking, puss-ridden, mouth?
Savile was known to say that he did not like children. One might add, not even when buggering them.
Paedophilia is always about Power.
The abuser gets off on his aura of omnipotence, on the terror he provokes, on his ability to be like God.
But Power is hierarchical.
Savile was protected by his celebrity status and his charity work. But that can't shut down police investigations.
Sir Jimmy Savile OBE, Papal Knight, Esteemed Member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.
Haut de la Garenne..... Kincora Boys Home.... Islington care homes.... Casa Pia..... Dutroux and the Belgian horrors.... Franklin......
Power. Leverage. Influence.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Quote:'Little slaves', sordid boasts and the dark truth about my 'friend' Jimmy Savile, by the biographer who tried to unmask him
By Dan Davies Daily Mail
PUBLISHED:22:09, 6 October 2012| UPDATED:12:34, 7 October 2012
Over eight years, writer Dan Davies was given unrivalled access to Jimmy Savile and his coterie, but no one dared to unmask the world he found... until now.
I first met Jimmy Savile at his penthouse flat in Leeds in 2004.
After buzzing on the intercom, I was told to wait in the small foyer of Lake View Court, a modern block overlooking Roundhay Park. When the wooden doors of the lift slid open, releasing a cloud of pungent cigar smoke, Jimmy emerged flanked by two large, unsmiling men. Frisk him,' he barked and I was pinned to the wall and searched for 20 rather uncomfortable seconds.
As I entered his flat he beckoned me through to his kitchen, which was decorated with tiles of pink and brown or the colour of sex' as he put it before sitting down in his reclining chair to begin regaling me with tales of his poverty-stricken childhood, his friendship with the Royal Family and his curious opinions on the opposite sex.
'Intriguing subject': Jimmy Savile relaxing at his flat in Leeds, where writer Dan Davies first met him in 2004
He boasted how many girls would be available to him on a typical night in one of his dancehalls and claimed to have loved them all'. He also said that it never occurred to me to take a liberty with them'. It struck me then that this was an odd caveat.
I asked him about the rumours that had long dogged him, namely that he was into young girls. You've got to bear in mind that we live in a funnier world than we did ten years ago,' he said. That is why in this building I don't have the internet and I don't have email, because someone would break in here thinking that I would be up late at night looking at all that porno business, and steal my hard drive. If I ain't got it in the first place, they can't get anything on me.'
I interviewed Jimmy many more times in the years before his death, at his homes in Leeds and Scarborough, over lunch at the Athenaeum Club in London and even during a short cruise on the QE2.
He was an intriguing subject and something approaching a friendship developed between us. Yet despite his generosity and entertaining company, nagging doubts persisted.
During our time at sea I was alarmed by how often he stopped elderly couples and used the same quip each time to the husband. You want to be careful about being seen with underage girls,' he'd say, motioning to the man's wife. You can get in trouble for that.'
It was an extremely odd thing to say and I began to fear he harboured a guilty conscience. I also started to entertain the notion that his tireless charity work might be some grand bid for atonement for past sins.
Jimmy talked about being put through the washing machine' by the newspapers but coming up clean. I knew he was litigious and was in his flat in Leeds in 2008 when he instructed his lawyers over newspaper claims about his connection with the Haut de la Garenne children's home in Jersey.
His line was always consistent: The big secret about me is there is no secret. What you see is what you get.' What is now known is that Jersey Police investigated an allegation that he molested a girl at the home during the Seventies.
When asked whether such rumours bothered him, he replied: It doesn't bother me in the slightest, not at all. I have a phrase when someone outs a story in a tabloid about underage sex I say, "It would be a lot worse if it was true." They say, "Are you saying it's not true?" I say, "I'm not saying nothing but it would be a lot worse if it was true." '
Jimmy Savile, above with two girls in 1967, boasted to biographer Dan Davies about how many girls would be available to him on a typical night in one of his dancehalls
When I first walked into his time- warp flat, with its garish fixtures and mementos from his long career at the forefront of popular culture, I had not seen Jimmy Savile in the flesh for 24 years.
Not since an evening in the autumn of 1980, when as a treat my mother took me to watch an episode of Jim'll Fix It being recorded at the BBC Television Theatre in Shepherd's Bush, West London.
I was nine and Jim'll Fix It was one of Britain's biggest family shows. My overriding memory of that evening was not of giddy excitement but of leaving the theatre afterwards with nagging doubts about Jimmy Savile.
The troubling experience of watching from the audience would have probably remained just that, had it not been for the discovery some years later of a dog-eared copy of his 1974 autobiography, As It Happens.
Rather than chuckling at his capers as child drummer in a wartime band, a Bevin Boy miner, cyclist, pioneering DJ and pop personality, I was disturbed by his morbid fascination with death and the frequent references to teenage girls inevitably followed by cheerful accounts of narrow escapes from suspicious parents.
'I started to entertain the notion that his tireless charity work might be some grand bid for atonement for past sins'
In one story from the early Sixties, during his stint as manager of the Mecca Locarno dancehall in Leeds, Jimmy recalled the police asking him to keep a lookout for an attractive young girl who was on the run from a remand home. He told the female police officer that if he found her, he would keep her for one night as his reward.
Jimmy recounted in the book that the girl came in to the Locarno that night and it was agreed that I hand her over if she could stay at the dance, come home with me, and that I would promise to see her when they let her out'.
At 11.30 the next morning she was willingly presented to the female police officer, with Jimmy adding that she was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues, for it was well-known that were I to go I would probably take half the station with me'.
We now know that he wrote this at a time when he is alleged to have been grooming and abusing girls at Duncroft, an approved school for intelligent, emotionally disturbed girls' in Surrey, and also at the Top Of The Pops studios.
In another story, he boasted of picking up a girl in his E-Type Jaguar who had been sitting with her parents on the seafront at Scarborough one stormy night. You would not believe the stories I might tell you about some parents,' wrote Jimmy before regaling readers with the news that after saving the girl from the waves, he took her to a garage where he kept his Rolls-Royce and she was duly appreciative'.
As It Happens is littered with references to his romantic' encounters. He talked in elliptical terms of the gleaming bodies of beach girls' on his trip to California to meet Elvis Presley in 1960 and how he felt it officially criminal that the age of consent in that admirable state is 18'.
He admitted to being chased along the seafront at Scarborough by forty fine-bodied young girls' and making an appearance at a charity event in Otley, near Leeds, on the condition he would sleep in a tent up the local hillside with another tent alongside with six girls to sleep there as my bodyguards!'
God'll Fix It, his slim volume on religion published in 1978, contained many more unusual insights. Jimmy opened a chapter titled How Do I Cope With Sex? with the following thought: Sex at its worst is corruption, as when young people might be corrupted to provide sex.' He went on to talk about how sex could be the source of great remorse, great guilt' and insisted his rule was never make love to anyone if it causes them distress' or if they were in a state of drunkenness or don't know what they're doing. I mustn't take them knowing that when they return to normal they'll be distressed'.
In closing, he offered a final thought: Whether it's OK to God we'll just have to wait and see.'
These books, and a persistent doubt, sparked my long quest to find out who Jimmy Savile really was, and why he had succeeded for so long in remaining hidden.
In 1992, Professor Anthony Clare also tried to get behind the mask, interviewing Jimmy for his In The Psychiatrist's Chair series on Radio  4. They discussed his emotionally and materially deprived upbringing as the unwanted, youngest child of seven and why he had remained so determined not to show or share his feelings.
But Jimmy simply refused to lay his psyche bare, feinting and ducking and, when all else failed, shutting up shop entirely.
There is something chilling about this 20th Century "saint'' which still intrigues me to this day,' concluded Britain's best-known psychiatrist at the end of a particularly prickly encounter.
Seven years later, a transcript' appeared on the internet detailing an exchange that was alleged to have taken place between Jimmy and Paul Merton during the filming of an episode of Have I Got News For You. The exchange, which has since proved to be a hoax, contained allegations about Jimmy and an underage girl he'd threatened with violence after she had said she'd go public about their relationship.
Jimmy's lawyers quickly intervened and websites carrying the transcript were forced to remove the offending material. Or, as Jimmy told me later: I'm an honorary Doctor of Law, so I have plenty of clout.'
From the real-life Pied Piper he'd been as the host of Top Of The Pops and Jim'll Fix It, Jimmy suddenly seemed at odds with the modern world a demise that was most famously captured by documentary-maker Louis Theroux. When Louis Met Jimmy went out on national television in September 2000 and shone a beam of light on what a strange old man Jimmy Savile really was.
Visits: Jimmy Savile would offer rides in his Rolls Royce to girls from Duncroft School in Surrey
Aged 73, after 40 years at the forefront of popular culture, he was seen leading a somewhat sad, lonely and peripatetic existence a track-suited, cigar-chomping dinosaur who wanted to appear as a happy-go-lucky everyman but actually came across as wilfully evasive, controlling and occasionally menacing.
What I'd discovered, meanwhile, was that he was not merely a tracksuited clown, but multi-faceted, surprising and extremely well connected, with contacts ranging from Ronnie Kray and Peter Sutcliffe to popes, prime ministers and princes. He was also Teflon-like in his ability to avoid dirt.
Initially, I was interested in how this singularly odd individual had inveigled himself into the corridors of power but it was the constant innuendo that trailed him that I found most compelling.
One source revealed he had spent a week with Jimmy at an exhibition for teenagers in the early Sixties. Jimmy was the DJ and compere on a stand and pop stars dropped in to do PAs. It was great fun, but if I could tell the story of what happened that week he'd probably be in jail for ever,' said the witness. So the rumours were true? They're totally true.'
In 2009, we sat in Jimmy's front room in Scarborough discussing something entirely different when he launched into the shocking and unsolicited defence of Gary Glitter that featured in last week's Exposure documentary on ITV.
Star was 'caught on mattress with Stoke Mandeville girl, 14'
Savile took young female hospital patients to his dressing room at BBC Television Centre after inviting them to watch Jim'll Fix It being filmed.
The girls came from Stoke Mandeville, the hospital in Buckinghamshire with which he was most closely associated.
A magazine journalist yesterday recalled an occasion when a girl, aged about 14, who was bald after receiving treatment for cancer, lay on a mattress next to Savile in the dressing room as he gave an interview in the late Eighties.
It was in this room that Gary Glitter is claimed to have raped a 13-year-old girl in front of Savile.
After the interview Savile followed the journalist along a corridor, grabbed him by the arm and threatened: 'Don't you dare mention that girl in your article or you'll be bloody finished. Do you understand?
Savile raised millions of pounds for Stoke Mandeville but it has been claimed that he used his work for charity as a cover for his predatory sexual behaviour.
A former student nurse said: 'I heard the stories that he took patients to see Jim'll Fix It at the BBC and that they went to his dressing room. It was one thing him being at the hospital with the kids, but quite another that he was alone with them.
Stoke Mandeville said it was 'shocked' to hear of these allegations and would co-operate with any police investigation.
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Jimmy argued the images of child pornography found on the disgraced singer's computer were for his own gratification and whether that's right or wrong is, of course, up to him as a person.'
I was taken aback and suggested that Glitter, real name Paul Gadd, had gone much further than downloading images as evidenced by his 2007 conviction for obscene acts with minors in Vietnam.
Jimmy's answer: Are you telling me that some evil person didn't stick little birds into him?'
Without missing a beat, he explained how, many years before, two policemen had once come into his dancehall. They said, "Jim, we've had reports of you going in and out of public toilets in Leeds.'' I said, Is that right? How long have you been checking toilets? That must be a terrific job. Do you have a bath when you get home because you stink of p*** and s****?" When they realised they weren't getting anywhere they got up and left.' I was struck at the time by the hard edge in his voice and the language he used.
But for all my growing suspicions, questioning and research, I could not find anything or anyone to conclusively nail the rumours. Access to those who were close to Jimmy was limited by his desire to control and his dogged determination to be the curator of his own myth.
There was a part of me, too, that hoped he was right, and there was no sinister secret lurking behind the carefully cultivated facade.
It was only after his death in October last year that the shackles on the truth began to fall away. I attended his three-day funeral and it became apparent, talking to those who knew him, that he kept his life strictly compartmentalised.
By remaining constantly on the move bouncing between his homes in Leeds, Scarborough, Scotland and London, and rooms he kept at Stoke Mandeville and Broadmoor his pockets of friends, or teams' as he called them, were kept mutually exclusive. It was a lifestyle that made him remarkably difficult to trace.
In offering their voices to the chorus of tributes, his former Radio  1 and Top Of The Pops colleagues revealed only that none of them professed to know Jimmy. David Hamilton talked of a very remote figure' who didn't mingle. Mike Read said he was quirky, eccentric', Tony Blackburn thought that he was lonely and didn't have many friends while Dave Lee Travis who learned his trade as a DJ from Jimmy while working in the dancehalls of Manchester spoke of knowing him for 50 years without ever having a meaningful chat.
He kept himself to himself and put a shield up,' said Travis. To a man, they all used the phrase a one-off'.
'He was a naughty man'
For the book I was writing, I wanted to place Jimmy in the context of the times he passed through and influenced. To do that, I set about finding people who might have known him better or drifted into his orbit at different stages of his life. I worked chronologically, starting with his early days as a miner, racing cyclist and dancehall manager.
In one of my first interviews, Alan Simpson, who as a teenager worked part-time at the Mecca in Wakefield, made a startling revelation: One of the biggest laffs we had [with Jimmy] was either he was going to be a huge success or in prison for screwing 14-year-old girls. Everyone in the Mecca company knew about it. It was wink, wink, nod, nod. It was never made public. It was a different world. If he could get away with it wink, wink, nod, nod good luck to him.'
This was quickly corroborated by Jeffrey Collins, at the time a young DJ at the Mecca Locarno dancehall in Leeds that Jimmy managed.
He was a naughty man, a naughty man,' said Collins. He'd go with teenagers .  .  . I don't know how he got away with it but he got away with it. Maybe it was because he was Jimmy Savile.'
When I asked if he found these underage girls in his dancehall, Collins confirmed this was the case: " Go up to my office, I'll be up there later." That sort of thing.'
Tony Calder was 18 when he first met Jimmy at Decca Records in 1961. Calder, who would go on to co-manage The Rolling Stones, had just stormed out of a meeting when he bumped into the DJ who was contracted to play the company's records on Radio Luxembourg. Jimmy said, "Come with me to Leeds for the weekend. I'll make sure you get laid," ' said Calder.
Calder did go, and said for the next 18 months Jimmy became his mentor', training him up as one of his DJs.
He also stated that Jimmy had girls throwing themselves at him, and that he'd normally had sex with them before he passed them on'.
They'd do what they were told,' Calder recalled. They were followers. They were his little slaves.'
He confirmed that for Jimmy, the rule was: the younger the better', although he was terrified of getting nicked with underage girls'.
Jimmy Savile's biographer Dan Davies describes him as an 'intriguing subject', but says 'nagging doubts' about the presenter persisted
By the early Sixties, Jimmy might have been forgiven for feeling untouchable. With his hit Radio Luxembourg shows, a weekly pop music column for a Sunday newspaper, a role with Mecca that gave him control over the music policy at Britain's biggest chain of dancehalls and a job hosting Top Of The Pops, he was arguably the most influential man in a British music scene that was conquering the world.
Jimmy talked to me on occasion about the close relations he maintained with the police, while Calder recalled being at the table as one senior officer was wined and dined.
He remembered Jimmy being warned about his behaviour: [The police officer said] "You've got to cut it out," whatever it was. [Jimmy] was taken aback.' Once one police chief retired or moved on, Calder said Jimmy would move on to wooing the next: He wasn't stupid. Whatever he was doing, he was covering his back.'
As his flatmate, support DJ, chauffeur and sidekick, Ray Teret was better placed than most to witness what his boss was doing. Teret styled himself on Jimmy and they shared a half- derelict apartment in Salford in the early Sixties. He was a pop star,' Teret said. When you're in that business they're always there in front of you.
There were so many [girls] around. The Sixties were the sex years. All the girls wanted to try sex and all the boys wanted to be into sex. Everyone was at it everywhere like rabbits.
Girls chatted to us. We were harmless because we weren't chasing anybody. We were great at consoling girls when they'd fallen out with other boys. We liked to console them.' I asked Teret what sort of girls Jimmy liked, and he paused before answering. I think Jim, like me, preferred girly girls rather than smart girls .  .  . girls who are prepared to do a cartwheel and jump and dance and have a giggle and a laugh.
Not the ones that go to work and be dead straight and sensible. He liked fun girls, show girls.'
I put it to him that it must have been an amazing experience for a young man to hang out with someone who was rich, famous, charismatic and surrounded by girls.
They always wanted Jimmy's autograph,' said Teret, and while they're all queuing up I get chatting to them, "Who are you? What's your name? What are you doing later? We're staying in the caravan, do you want to come and see us at six o'clock? Bring a girlfriend." It was that easy.'
Jimmy Savile presenting Top Of The Pops in 1976
As Teret explained on a radio show recorded soon after Jimmy's death: I actually spent so much time with Jim in the early days that he told me how to live, how to think, how to be.'
He recalled that Jimmy referred to him as My son', to which he dutifully responded by calling him Father'. Jimmy's protege went on to become a DJ for Radio Caroline, at which point they parted company.
In March 1999, Ray Teret, then 57, was jailed for six months for seducing and bedding a 15-year- old schoolgirl.
I also discovered that in 1980 Jimmy's older brother John Henry was fired from his job at a London psychiatric hospital for sexually assaulting a female patient. He was alleged to have lifted the patient's smock and groped at her breasts in his office.
While trawling the newspaper archives, a recurring theme began to emerge. Whether rescuing girls on the seafront in his aforementioned E-Type, offering lifts home in his Rolls-Royce or inviting female guests back to his caravans and motorhomes, Jimmy's impressive array of vehicles was as much a part of his image as the outlandish hair, clothes and jewellery.
In a conversation with one of Jimmy's former assistants, he admitted the only dubious thing he ever heard him say was that he really shouldn't give girls a lift in his car. Jimmy hadn't heeded his own advice by July 1977 when 16-year-old Julie Ball reported she had gone for a spin with the then 51-year-old star in his golden Rolls-Royce.
They had met at a health farm where she worked as a trainee beautician and Jimmy had driven her home to Letchworth in Hertfordshire, where he signed autographs for hordes of children and sat talking with the family until the early hours'. The next night he took Julie out to see a play and on the way home, they pulled into a quiet lay-by where they kissed and cuddled for half an hour'. Other than the love-struck teenager's feelings being hurt when Jimmy insisted there had been no romance', there is no evidence that anything further happened,
The same cannot be said for the allegations that have emerged 25 years on. They too involve cars, and lay-bys and more. Claims that Jimmy had sexually abused under-age girls at Duncroft School in the late Sixties and early Seventies surfaced earlier this year after a Newsnight report in which a number of victims were spoken to was controversially axed by the BBC.
Contact with the former Duncroft girls at the centre of the claims proved difficult because of the anger and betrayal they felt over the BBC's decision. Many felt there had been a cover-up and were fearful of going on the record again, although one, Karin Ward, did blog about Jimmy's regular visits to the now-closed approved school in Surrey.
I looked forward to Jimmy Savile visiting because it meant pleasant food, rides down the lane in his sports car and extra cigarettes,' wrote Ward, who was 14 at the time.
Sadly, it also meant one had to put up with being mauled and groped when he pulled into a lay-by some five miles along the road.' She added: I wasn't the only girl that he favoured with this either.
In fact, he often tried to press me to "go further'' than simply fondling him and allowing him to grope inside my knickers and at my partly-formed breasts. He promised me all manner of good things if I would give him oral sex.'
We now know those rewards were said to have included visits to the BBC studios to watch his television shows being filmed visits that offered opportunities for further assaults in his dressing room.
And he did go further, allegedly raping two of the Duncroft girls who were hand-picked from the headmistress's office, as well as others unconnected with the school.
Five women appeared in former police detective and child protection specialist Mark Williams-Thomas's investigation for ITV, although not all were from Duncroft.
He interviewed many more among them were some previously interviewed by Newsnight.
So far, more than 40 women have come forward to claim that they had been sexually assaulted by Jimmy Savile at the height of his fame. They were aged between 12 and 20 at the time.
The pattern is consistent with all of those women I spoke to,' says Williams-Thomas. I have no doubt there are many, many more victims. I know some of them and they are too scared to talk on the record.'
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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war