The Power of the Paedos - another high profile case hits the 'never happened' wall?

[Lauren Johnson]

Yes Lauren, but the problem is that this is the James Murdoch defence.

And it seems to work -- well.

"What can you expect from an idiot like me?"

"Oh yah, you're right. You got me there. You get a free pass."

This kind of thing only works when there is total corruption in the press, the police and the courts.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Just like the Catholic Church, the BBC has spent a fortune on lawyers in the aftermath of the child sex abuse outrages conducted by high profile BBC stars.

If the Beeb continues following the Vatican's path, it will soon be taking out insurance policies against future law suits...

BBC spends more than £5m on Jimmy Savile-related inquiries

Investigation into shelved Newsnight report cost £2.8m, with more expenditure to come from Stuart Hall review

Mark Sweney and John Plunkett
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 16 July 2013 11.00 BST


Jimmy Savile: the BBC has spent £5.3m on inquiries related to the disgraced presenter. Photograph: Murdo Macleod for the Guardian

The BBC has spent more than £5m of licence fee payers' money so far on internal investigations and inquiries relating to the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal.

On Tuesday the BBC revealed that it has spent £5.3m on Savile-related inquiries in the year to 31 March, as it published its 2013 annual report.

The BBC spent just over £2.8m on the Pollard review, led by former head of Sky News, which looked into the handling of the shelved Newsnight investigation into Savile and how management dealt with the scandal once the story broke last autumn.

Costs included Pollard's fee, £81,600, while the BBC paid £893,501 to law firm Reed Smith for legal advice relating to the review and a further £492,437 for "external legal support".

Witnesses' legal costs amounted to a further £391,121, including £107,000 for former director general George Entwistle, £101,000 for ex BBC News director Helen Boaden, who is now radio director, and £86,000 for Entwistle's predecessor Mark Thompson.

Separately, the BBC was also forced to pay Lord McAlpine £185,000 in damages over false child abuse allegations made by Newsnight.

Two other Savile-related inquiries the Respect at Work review led by Dinah Rose QC and Dame Janet Smith's review into the culture and practices of the BBC in the Savile years takes the total the BBC spent to £5.3m to 31 March.

The BBC said that there will be more costs to factor in for the latter two reviews, which also includes Dame Linda Dobbs's review into Stuart Hall, that will be published in due course.

BBC director general Tony Hall has pledged to eliminate bureaucracy and regulation at the corporation, which he says is "inhibiting its creativity".

Hall will take personal charge of a corporation -wide review to "simplify our organisation" following the Pollard review into the Savile crisis which identified the need for cultural change.

Hall said he had already implemented change at the top of the organisation where the emphasis, he said, was "on working as a team and the most important and difficult issues discussed openly and candidly".

He identified "unnecessary bureaucracy and regulation" although he is not the first director general to pinpoint such issues and said he wanted to see "less duplication of effort and more personal autonomy".

"I have been struck by the complexity of the organisation and the inhibiting effect that has on creativity," Hall said in a letter to BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten, published on Tuesday.

[Jan Klimkowski]

The British establishment's Honours Committee, a notoriously secretive but influential bunch of grandees, knew why Savile shouldn't be knighted.

But Thatcher pushed, bullied and persisted until she had her way.....

Revealed: Lady Thatcher's FIVE attempts to secure knighthood for Jimmy Savile while her aides warned of his strange and complex' life

Tory PM first asked he be made 'Sir' Jimmy in 1984, secret documents show
Civil servants warned her off because of his boasts about his 'lurid' sex life
He was finally knighted in 1990, Lady Thatcher's final year in office

By Martin Robinson

PUBLISHED: 09:57, 17 July 2013 | UPDATED: 12:47, 17 July 2013


Margaret Thatcher made five attempts to get Jimmy Savile knighted while she was prime minister despite aides warning of 'continued misgivings' about his 'strange and complex' private life.

The Iron Lady took six years to get the paedophile star made 'Sir' because civil servants persistently blocked her requests, secret Cabinet Office papers revealed today.

Documents from during Lady Thatcher's time in Downing Street show her advisers had 'worries' about Savile being knighted because of 'unfortunate revelations' about his private life.

Persistent: Margaret Thatcher with Jimmy Saville outside No 10 Downing Street in 1988, as it was revealed she tried five times to get him knighted while prime minister

Savile had boasted about having sex with women he approached at charity events and also how he was violent.


Shamed DJ: Cigar-smoking Jimmy Savile pictured after receiving his knighthood at the Palace in 1990

The new paperwork shows the Tory leader first asked that Savile be knighted in 1984, but mandarins said they were concerned after he spoke to the press about his 'lurid' sex life.

After another attempt was sidelined her private secretary Nigel Wicks wrote to head of the civil service Robert Armstrong to say the prime minister was 'most disappointed', adding: 'She wonders how many more times his name is to be pushed aside. She would therefore like you to consider further the inclusion of his name on the (honours) list'.

Armstrong had earlier warned Wicks that 'the case of Jimmy Savile is complex', because 'he has made no attempt to deny the accounts in the press about his private life'.

After Thatcher recommended him again documents show that it was rejected because of his promiscuity, after aides said that as the government tried to deal with the spread of Aids in the 1980s, honouring him would send out the wrong message.

Another adviser's letter to the PM, published in The Sun today, stated: 'Mr Savile is a strange and complex man.'

It adds: 'Fears have been expressed that Mr Savile might not be able to refrain from exploiting a knighthood in a way which brought the honours system into disrepute.'

Warnings: Lady Thatcher's aides were critical of Jimmy Savile's private life, but the Tory leader insisted his charity work meant he should become 'sir'

Another note, from Mrs Thatcher's then private secretary, repeated the concerns. It added: 'We have again considered the name of Mr Jimmy Savile, whom you have of course considered on previous occasions. We have again concluded that he should not be recommended.'

'She (Lady Thatcher) wonders how many more times his name is to be pushed aside. She would therefore like you to consider further the inclusion of his name on the (honours) list'

- Lady Thatcher's private secretary in letter to head of the civil service

Overall Lady Thatcher was talked out of getting him knighted four times.

The television star was finally knighted for his services to charity in 1990, Lady Thatcher's final year in power.

Letters released last year shows there was a warm relationship between Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Savile.

The Top Of The Pops presenter sent an adoring letter to the then prime minister in 1980, singing her praises and declaring his love for her.

Correspondence: A handwritten letter from Jimmy Savile in which he declared his 'love' for Margaret Thatcher after being invited to lunch with her was released by the National Archives under the 30-year rule

She responded by inviting the now-disgraced DJ to lunch at Chequers, spending 11 consecutive New Year's Eves with him and finally overseeing his knighthood.

JIMMY SAVILE'S KNIGHTHOOD CAN'T BE REVOKED BECAUSE HE'S DEAD

A constitutional bar preventing the dead from having their knighthoods removed means the government cannot strip Savile of the accolade

Those given a knighthood are awarded lifetime membership to a living order' and the title no longer exists when the holder dies.

The TV host, who died aged 84, was knighted in the Queen's Birthday Honours list in 1990 - an award which followed the OBE he was given in 1971.

Whitehall sources admitted they considered awarding him a posthumous knighthood so he could then be stripped of it.

The Queen has the power to remove honours after they have been recommended by the forfeiture committee.

Last year Fred Goodwin, former chief executive of Royal Bank of Scotland, was stripped of his knighthood.

Savile raised more than £30 million for good causes, including £12 million to rebuild the National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

He died in October 2011, but his grave crimes only came to light the following year.

A report by Scotland Yard and the NSPCC said he DJ spent every waking minute' thinking about abusing children and used his celebrity status to that end.

Eighteen girls and ten boys aged under ten were abused the youngest being a boy of eight targeted at his school.

Allegations of sexual assault have been made by 450 individuals, aged up to 47, and some have yet to be interviewed.

The 214 confirmed offences included 34 rapes and stretch across 28 police force areas. The most recent was in 2009 but they date back as far as 1955.

Of his victims, 73 per cent were children, with youngsters aged as young as eight when they were targeted.

Yesterday the BBC, whose premises were used by Savile for abuse, admitted its soul-searching about why it failed to expose the scandal has so far cost the licence fee payer almost £5million.

The bill for three internal reviews launched after BBC2's Newsnight failed to broadcast allegations of abuse against the DJ and TV presenter includes huge legal fees for senior staff and for consultants employed to black out chunks of a damning report.

The bill currently stands at £4.9 million not including tax and VAT, which is equivalent to the cost of 33,677 licence fees.

The corporation's annual report also revealed pay for senior managers soared by 60 per cent to £4.1million, swollen by controversial golden goodbyes' for bosses forced out over the handling of the Savile affair.

[Magda Hassan]

Former Canadian Deputy Minister of Education Involved In Int'l Paedophile Porn

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By Hellas Frappe on 17.7.13

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Further evidence of the organised and international nature of child pornography has emerged sensationally in Toronto over the last week. Benjamin Levin (left) A former deputy minister of education has been charged with exploiting [COLOR=#67B045 !important]children. The former [COLOR=#67B045 !important]education minister[/COLOR], Kathleen Wynne, is now the provincial premier…. and a close friend of the accused. Levin himself is in turn from a powerful family, and was apprehended as part of an international pornography sting operation.

After he was charged with two more child pornography offences on Wednesday July 10th,[COLOR=#67B045 !important]University of Toronto[/COLOR] professor Benjamin Levin was granted bail set at $100,000. Levin will face seven charges of child exploitation, including possessing and accessing child pornography following a Monday raid on his home. (Bad luck for him that Michael Gove wasn't there to get him off.)

Toronto Premier Kathleen Wynne, on whose transition' team Levin served, commented on his arrest for the first time yesterday.

"I was shocked to hear about these charges through the news," her statement said.
"Insidious crimes like these are absolutely terrifying. The safety and well-being of our children has always been my absolute priority, and at no time did I have any suspicion of criminal behavior. I am confident that the police and judicial system will address these serious allegations."

Note the quite unfeasibly large amount of arse-covering that went into that statement. Wynne an aggressively feminist lesbian stressed her former adviser had no role in formulating the sex-education curriculum; but there appear to be huge doubts about her claim. It was after all her revamp of the sex education guidelines when she held the education portfolio that was dropped in 2010 after some religious groups objected to it as too risque. And as she brought him onto the transition team, why would he be concerned with everything but sex-education… him being an educator, an' all.

Levin next appears in court on August 8th.

Wynne continues to insist that he had nothing to do with the sex education curriculum, but her rationale for this seems decidedly odd

"… they're shocking allegations. I'm not minimizing that at all, but ministers and deputy ministers don't [COLOR=#67B045 !important]write curriculum[/COLOR]," she told reporters.
"I worked with Ben Levin, I knew Ben Levin, and that makes it doubly shocking to me that these allegations and charges have been made. So the criminal justice system has to do its work. Ben Levin was asked to be on my transition team because I had worked with him and because he was involved in transition in Manitoba and he knew the workings of that process. So I am shocked. Any crime of this nature is a crime against all children and if these allegations are true, then it's a real tragedy."

Again, although bleeding profusely all over the carpet there, it seems bizarre for Wynne to say he had transition experience, was an expert, and so was drafted in… and then went off to sharpen his pencil every time sex-education policy came up.

Given that her predecessor had reversed Wynne's ideas on the subject, surely that would be a key debating point concerning the transition from his administration to hers?

The real concern for all those trying to break up the globalised nature of child pornography is that Levin was arrested after an international police investigation stretching from New Zealand to England. It is expected that more details of this will emerge during his trial, but sources at present suggest that Benjamin Levin was snared because materials in Christchurch New Zealand were traced back to "a suspect" in Toronto.

Equally familiar, however, is Levin's position as very probably part of a "help network" of powerful people.

Prominent Canadian blogger Kathie Shadle notes in online vehicle Taki's Magazine notes that one of the charges against the senior education consultant involves "counseling someone online on how to commit a sexual assault on a child."

She adds pointedly:

"[Levin] belongs to a prominent, powerful family. One of his brothers was the long-time career-making books editor of the nation's most prestigious paper; another was Canada's ambassador to Cuba."

The Left-leaning "progressive" nature of the family is also suggested by the fact that Levin lectured at the renowned hard-left breeding ground, the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education.

Kathie also adds an interesting twist to the story by suggesting that Benny Boy was using his power as much as Kathleen Wynne's to get the religious objections to her mad sex education guidelines quietly pushed through anyway:

"… he was the civil-service CEO while his fellow 'educators' fought (and failed, thanks to parental objections and conservative media mockery) to launch a radical new sex-ed curriculum… Six-year-olds were to learn about '[COLOR=#67B045 !important]gender identity[/COLOR],' third-graders about 'sexual orientation,' and 11-to-13-year-olds were to be taught the mechanics of oral and anal sex, as well as the wonderfulness of transgenderism".

She also points put that, as well as education and family-power politics, Benjamin Levin's chosen hiding place' was the Gay Pride movement… in which he was widely photographed a month ago… sitting at the side of touted next Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau… son of the famous former Premier Pierre Trudeau.

It's all too depressingly familiar, and very reminiscent of the trail that led from the odd early views of Harriet Harman and her husband Jack Dromey, Harman's unwillingness to reform the Family Courts (a fertile recruiting point for already damaged child-flesh) her silence on the subject today and her fellow-travellers over the years such as homosexual-outer Peter Tatchell. Only today in Britain, evidence is emerging that Baroness Thatcher tried over and over again to get Jimmy Savile knighted: why on earth did she bother? Or was she just an appalling crap judge of male personality? Actually, cancel the question mark: she was a hopeless judge of male morals, full stop.

Indeed, Benjamin Levin moves in circles where the same loopy ideas are put forward today: his educational colleague Tom Flanagan, a lifelong [COLOR=#67B045 !important]libertarian[/COLOR] boundary-pusher, wondered aloud in a classroom recently "whether or not merely viewing child porn in one's own home should be a crime, [given that] such criminalization is a real issue of [COLOR=#67B045 !important]personal[/COLOR] liberty. To what extent [should] we put people in jail for doing something in which they do not harm another person?"

Michael Gove is exactly of that opinion. And it feels like Kathleen Wynne may have using her equally "progressive" as a Trojan Horse.

The jury is out on whether all these people are just innocently useful idiots or have an odd agenda. We wait to see what the Ontario jury will decide to do about Levin next month.

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[Magda Hassan]

Elm Guest House investigation: Former senior cabinet minister faces rape investigation

CPS considers charges as police looking into guesthouse paedophile ring broaden their inquiry

JAMES HANNING , PAUL CAHALAN

SUNDAY 21 JULY 2013
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A former senior cabinet minister is now the subject of a rape allegation currently being considered by the Crown Prosecution Service. Police investigating possible child abuse at the Elm Guest House in West London have submitted a file on the former minister, and the CPS is expected to come to a decision over the matter during the summer. The claims are not believed to relate to the abuse of minors at the guesthouse, and the alleged victim was over the age of consent.
The allegation follows evidence given to the Metropolitan Police's Operation Fernbridge, which is investigating claims that a well-connected paedophile ring was operating from a guesthouse in Rocks Lane, Barnes, south-west London, in the early 1980s. The inquiry has been examining hundreds of leads submitted to it after a politician claimed that a historic paedophile ring with connections to Downing Street had been in operation there. The extent, breadth and wide timeframe of the claims led police to look beyond the Elm Guest House's allegedly dark epoch and beyond the abuse of children.
Police have been looking into claims that young boys from the Grafton Close care home, run by Richmond council, were sexually assaulted at the guesthouse now a block of respectable flats. It is alleged that the boys were taken to organised parties at the house attended by prominent people, where they were made to dress up. The parties were often "Kings and Queens" themed, a practice begun around the time of the Silver Jubilee in 1977.
The lack of charges relating to the guest house has given rise to counter-claims of "conspiracy theories" and cover-ups. But in January, The Independent on Sunday revealed that the disgraced Liberal Democrat politician Sir Cyril Smith, who for decades abused children without ever facing justice, was a regular visitor to the Elm Guest House.
The revelation came after police raided the house of one childcare worker and seized documents said to contain the names of some of those who stayed at the guesthouse. Those on the list also included prominent politicians, judges and celebrities.
The Fernbridge investigation came in the wake of the allegations surrounding the TV presenter and DJ Jimmy Savile.
In October last year, Tom Watson MP told Parliament that an evidence file on Peter Righton, a former child care worker convicted of importing illegal homosexual pornography in 1992, contained "clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring". At Prime Minister's Questions, he said: "One of its members boasts of a link to a senior aide of a former prime minister, who says he could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad."
Scotland Yard is still investigating those claims, as well as suggestions that its officers failed to carry out a proper examination of child abuse claims in Richmond in 2003, when the Independent Police Complaints Commission received allegations from a concerned council worker.
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[Jan Klimkowski]

Cameron has announced a "crackdown" on "web porn" today.

Here's an expert response from the former head of the UK's child abuse investigation unit, stressing that that most paedophiles do not share images of child abuse via google style searches but rather via peer to peer communication.

Peer to peer communication can be policed but it requires specialist teams of child abuse investigators with IT expertise and search warrants.

Oh yeah, and it costs money.

Paedophiles will 'laugh at' web porn crackdown, says ex police chief
New rules: The Prime Minister said he wants Britain to be the best place to raise a family

Evening Standard

Joe Murphy, Political Editor

Published: 22 July 2013

Updated: 10:47, 22 July 2013

Child abusers will "laugh at" some of David Cameron's new measures to counter extreme pornography, one of Britain's top anti-paedophile investigators said today.

Former police chief Jim Gamble predicted that plans to confront people with a pop-up warning if they appeared to be putting phrases like "child porn" into a search engine would fail to stop abusers sharing images with each other online.

"Let's create a real deterrent, not a pop-up that paedophiles will laugh at," said the former deputy chief constable and chairman of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop).

"There are 50,000 predators we are told by Ceop downloading images from peer-to-peer, yet from Ceop intelligence only 192 were arrested last year," he warned. "That's simply not good enough."

The criticism by Mr Gamble, who built up Ceop into a world famous centre for tracking down paedophile networks, took some of the shine off Mr Cameron's announcements made in a speech at a children's charity in central London.

Internet search engines claim a "pop-up" will not affect the results of searches but could deter people from legitimate searches.

Google says it already blocks child abuse images. A person entering the term "child porn" would be shown newspaper articles about the Prime Minister's announcement, for example, but not illegal images. Internet providers say legitimate inquiries could be suppressed.

The new measures include:

* Every Internet customer will be required to choose "yes" or "no" by the end of 2014 to having filters against pornography installed on their home service. New customers will have "yes" ticked by default.

* Possessing violent pornography containing simulated rape will be made a crime in England and Wales.

* Videos streamed online in the UK will be subject to the same restrictions as those sold in shops.

* Ceop investigators will get new powers to investigate the so-called dark Internet which operates outside the reach of search engines.

The Prime Minister admitted that stopping peer-to-peer sharing by abusers was "very tough". But he insisted that extra police powers should make paedophiles nervous. "People should know there is no hidden place on the Internet where they cannot be caught," he told Woman's Hour.

But challenged whether Page Three-style images of topless women should be banned from newspapers, he refused, saying: "It's an issue of personal choice whether people buy a newspaper or not."

His measures were welcomed by women's groups. Fiona Elvines, of Rape Crisis South London, said: "The Government today has made a significant step forward in preventing rapists using rape pornography to legitimise and strategise their crimes and, more broadly, in challenging the eroticisation of violence against women and girls."

Professor Clare McGlynn, of Durham University, said: "The extreme porn law can be swiftly amended to send a clear message that rape should not be a form of sexual entertainment."

A Google spokesman said: "We have a zero tolerance attitude to child sexual abuse imagery."

[Jan Klimkowski]

Wearying familiarity....

Benedictine order plans inquiry into Scotland schools child abuse scandal

Senior figures plan own investigation into allegations that monks abused boys at Fort Augustus and Carlekemp Priory schools

Severin Carrell, Scotland correspondent
theguardian.com, Tuesday 30 July 2013 13.03 BST

Fort Augustus Abbey in the Highlands of Scotland. Senior figures in the Benedictine religious order plan an internal inquiry into allegations of sexual and physical abuse by monks at the school. Photograph: Alamy

Senior figures in the Benedictine religious order are planning their own inquiry into harrowing allegations that monks sexually and physically abused dozens of boys at two schools in Scotland.

Police in Scotland have launched an investigation into disclosures by former pupils at Fort Augustus in the Highlands and Carlekemp Priory school near Edinburgh that monks subjected them to systematic violence and sexual assaults, including claims that one now deceased monk raped five boys.

Dom Richard Yeo, the head of the UK's largest Benedictine group of congregations, said he had already been contacted by detectives from Police Scotland over the allegations, detailed in a BBC Scotland documentary on Monday.

In May the Observer revealed that a police investigation had begun into Fort Augustus after one pupil, Andrew Lavery, accused monks there of "systematic, brutal, awful torture", which included being locked alone for days at a time in a room.

That included sexual assaults by monks, while other ex-pupils spoke of repeated bullying and sexually predatory behaviour.

Yeo said he was also liaising with senior figures in the Scottish Catholic safeguarding office, an agency of the church which oversees child protection policy within the church. Once the police inquiry was complete, he said, the Benedictines were likely to conduct their own investigation.

Yeo told the Guardian on Tuesday he was horrified by the allegations, adding: "I'm very sorry for any abuse that happened."

He confirmed that he had been aware of a few cases of alleged abuses at Fort Augustus made by some individuals over the past three years. "But the BBC are saying it's more than a few cases, that it's a significant number of cases, so that's new to me," he said, adding: "They're talking about a culture of abuse."

The BBC programme, Sins of the Fathers, alleged that nine monks at the schools repeatedly beat, sexually assaulted and, in one case, raped boys in their care over several decades. Victims of the abuse complained but their testimony was ignored. One priest allegedly involved, now living in Sydney, Australia, has been suspended by the Australian church after the BBC tracked him down.

Yeo, who is abbot president of the English Congregation of Benedictines, to which the two schools were affiliated and which includes famous schools such as Ampleforth in Yorkshire and Buckfast Abbey in Devon, said he was still mulling over what form its inquiry might take. The Police Scotland investigation must take priority, he said.

The schools are now closed: Carlekemp Priory school stopped operating in the 1970s, while Fort Augustus closed in the 1990s. They were also independent and effectively autonomous, run by the monks and abbot in charge, so his order had no direct control over its affairs then.

"Because the place is shut down, and so many people [involved] are dead, it's going to be difficult, I imagine, to find out exactly what happened. I was told by the BBC that the people who were abused said that they would like some sort of an inquiry. My reply to that is the correct thing to do is that I can't anticipate things before the police make their decisions [on what to do]," he said.

Yeo added that he was involved because as head of the Benedictines (there is a small separate Scottish order uninvolved in this scandal), there was no one else for complainants to turn to and the former school was an autonomous body. His predecessor did not control its affairs.

"I have been ready to talk to people who have come to speak to me, because there's really nobody else and I was happy to talk to the BBC because there was nobody else," he said. "I don't really know what to do. I'm certainly open to doing some sort of inquiry but I don't know what at this stage.

"I would say we have a collective concern [as Benedictines]; you can only exercise responsibility if you exercise some sort of control and we didn't exercise some sort of control over Fort Augustus; it was an independent monastery."

A spokesman for the Scottish Catholic church said he too was horrified by the allegations. But he insisted neither the former archbishop of Aberdeen, Mario Conti, who was in place during the latter years of the school's operation, nor the current bishop of Aberdeen, Hugh Gilbert, had had any knowledge of the allegations.

He and other church sources said the Benedictines were entirely self-governing and were not under the control or oversight of the Scottish church. The spokesman said: "If they had known, it would have been handed immediately to the diocesian safeguarding team and to the police.

"We have only discovered through the media that these allegations have emerged and that Police Scotland are now dealing with this."

[Magda Hassan]

Cameron has announced a "crackdown" on "web porn" today.

Here's an expert response from the former head of the UK's child abuse investigation unit, stressing that that most paedophiles do not share images of child abuse via google style searches but rather via peer to peer communication.

Peer to peer communication can be policed but it requires specialist teams of child abuse investigators with IT expertise and search warrants.

Oh yeah, and it costs money.

Paedophiles will 'laugh at' web porn crackdown, says ex police chief
New rules: The Prime Minister said he wants Britain to be the best place to raise a family
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But challenged whether Page Three-style images of topless women should be banned from newspapers, he refused, saying: "It's an issue of personal choice whether people buy a newspaper or not."

Rather than control the internet, an impossible and ridiculous task, it is better if free internet filters can be provided to those that request them. Much cheaper and leaves every one else in peace.

If Cameron wants Britain to be the best place to raise a family he needs to abolish the Tories, arrest his friends the bankers, abolish monetarism, fully fund the NHS and public education and stop using homes as casino chips and promoting landlordism. Internet pornography is the least of it. And he doesn't want to deal with pornography on paper just the internet? WTF? There is a choice in both as the consumer.

[David Guyatt]

Cameron has announced a "crackdown" on "web porn" today.

Here's an expert response from the former head of the UK's child abuse investigation unit, stressing that that most paedophiles do not share images of child abuse via google style searches but rather via peer to peer communication.

Peer to peer communication can be policed but it requires specialist teams of child abuse investigators with IT expertise and search warrants.

Oh yeah, and it costs money.

Paedophiles will 'laugh at' web porn crackdown, says ex police chief
New rules: The Prime Minister said he wants Britain to be the best place to raise a family
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But challenged whether Page Three-style images of topless women should be banned from newspapers, he refused, saying: "It's an issue of personal choice whether people buy a newspaper or not."

Rather than control the internet, an impossible and ridiculous task, it is better if free internet filters can be provided to those that request them. Much cheaper and leaves every one else in peace.

If Cameron wants Britain to be the best place to raise a family he needs to abolish the Tories, arrest his friends the bankers, abolish monetarism, fully fund the NHS and public education and stop using homes as casino chips and promoting landlordism. Internet pornography is the least of it. And he doesn't want to deal with pornography on paper just the internet? WTF? There is a choice in both as the consumer.

But using filters would hinder the thin edge of the wedge strategy to control the internet per se. Cameron doesn't give a flying took about internet porn - if he did care about these things a former Conservative Home Secretary would be banged up by now....

[Magda Hassan]

But using filters would hinder the thin edge of the wedge strategy to control the internet per se. Cameron doesn't give a flying took about internet porn - if he did care about these things a former Conservative Home Secretary would be banged up by now....

Quite. And a dozen more.