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Two: battlefield executions & training to make killing acceptable
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US Troops Executing Prisoners in Afghanistan: Seymour Hersh

By David Edwards

"I'll tell you right now, one of the great tragedies of my country is that Mr. Obama is looking the other way, because equally horrible things are happening to prisoners, to those we capture in Afghanistan," Hersh said. "They're being executed on the battlefield. It's unbelievable stuff going on". Continue
Training That Makes Killing Civilians Acceptable

By Real News

Josh Stieber: In boot camp we trained with songs that joked about killing women and children. Continue
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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This issue has not gotten the attention it deserves.

There is a similar article at http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0512/hersh-b...nue-obama/

US troops executing prisoners in Afghanistan, journalist says


The journalist who helped break the story that detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq were being tortured by their US jailers told an audience at a journalism conference last month that American soldiers are now executing prisoners in Afghanistan.
New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh also revealed that the Bush Administration had developed advanced plans for a military strike on Iran.
At the Global Investigative Journalism Conference in Geneva, Hersh criticized President Barack Obama, and alleged that US forces are engaged in "battlefield executions."
"I'll tell you right now, one of the great tragedies of my country is that Mr. Obama is looking the other way, because equally horrible things are happening to prisoners, to those we capture in Afghanistan," Hersh said. "They're being executed on the battlefield. It's unbelievable stuff going on there that doesn't necessarily get reported. Things don't change.:
"What they've done in the field now is, they tell the troops, you have to make a determination within a day or two or so whether or not the prisoners you have, the detainees, are Taliban," Hersh added. "You must extract whatever tactical intelligence you can get, as opposed to strategic, long-range intelligence, immediately. And if you cannot conclude they're Taliban, you must turn them free."
"What it means is, and I've been told this anecdotally by five or six different people, battlefield executions are taking place," he continued. "Well, if they can't prove they're Taliban, bam. If we don't do it ourselves, we turn them over to the nearby Afghan troops and by the time we walk three feet the bullets are flying. And that's going on now."
The video of Hersh was uploaded to Michael Moore's YouTube account Tuesday.
Hersh has a long history as an investigative journalist and worked for many years at The New York Times. In 1969, he broke the story of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam.


There is also a video of Hersh talking on youtube.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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Someone else asked for more follow-up too and I gathered together more back-up material, to which I've added....

http://z7.invisionfree.com/E_Pluribus_Unum/index.php?showtopic=9532
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:This issue has not gotten the attention it deserves.

There is a similar article at http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0512/hersh-b...nue-obama/

US troops executing prisoners in Afghanistan, journalist says


The journalist who helped break the story that detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq were being tortured by their US jailers told an audience at a journalism conference last month that American soldiers are now executing prisoners in Afghanistan.
New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh also revealed that the Bush Administration had developed advanced plans for a military strike on Iran.
At the Global Investigative Journalism Conference in Geneva, Hersh criticized President Barack Obama, and alleged that US forces are engaged in "battlefield executions."
"I'll tell you right now, one of the great tragedies of my country is that Mr. Obama is looking the other way, because equally horrible things are happening to prisoners, to those we capture in Afghanistan," Hersh said. "They're being executed on the battlefield. It's unbelievable stuff going on there that doesn't necessarily get reported. Things don't change.:
"What they've done in the field now is, they tell the troops, you have to make a determination within a day or two or so whether or not the prisoners you have, the detainees, are Taliban," Hersh added. "You must extract whatever tactical intelligence you can get, as opposed to strategic, long-range intelligence, immediately. And if you cannot conclude they're Taliban, you must turn them free."
"What it means is, and I've been told this anecdotally by five or six different people, battlefield executions are taking place," he continued. "Well, if they can't prove they're Taliban, bam. If we don't do it ourselves, we turn them over to the nearby Afghan troops and by the time we walk three feet the bullets are flying. And that's going on now."
The video of Hersh was uploaded to Michael Moore's YouTube account Tuesday.
Hersh has a long history as an investigative journalist and worked for many years at The New York Times. In 1969, he broke the story of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam.


There is also a video of Hersh talking on youtube.
Yes Carsten it is not getting the attention it deserves. I can't understand why people are not in riot there about it and what is being done in their name.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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The Lion of Babylon & american dogs.

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This is yet another video of "Brave American" war criminals surrounding then shooting to death an unarmed old man (video 5 minutes).


http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/You...20lion.MP4



Notice their fear as they circle around him and hear their filthy shouts to shoot him down even though he is unarmed.
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The War on Terror is even more banal than WW1.

Here's George W Bush's considered take when he was POTUS:

Quote:"We're kicking ass (in Iraq)."

September 7, 2007
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/by-g...20123.html
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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