If Gore had won would 9-11 still have occurred?

[Dawn Meredith]

There is an interesting article in Time mag. by Bill Clinton about the presidential elaction of 2000 and it got me thinking, had the Supremes not stepped in and handed it to Bush and Cheney and the votes got recounded in Gore's favor would the false flag event of 9-11 still have occurred? This is a question about power: Was 9-11 organized by the Cheney the neocons or a power group beyond that? Would we be in two wars if Gore had won?

Dawn

[Magda Hassan]

Hard to say. If my aunty was my uncle she'd have balls. All hypothetical. I don't know that Gore would have been a great deal different just a matte of degree. Sure he could read and write and knew which way was up which I'm not sure Bush was capable of but a neo liberal through and through. Just more articulate like Obama and Clinton. The machinery would have been intact maybe just different operators. If it had happened on his watch I expect a military response. Perhaps more sophisticated. It was Clinton who introduced Humanitarian Warfare.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Cheney and Rumsfeld have been deep political players for decades.

For instance, they were involved in the early "limited hangout" cover up of the murder of MK-ULTRA scientist Frank Olson. Olson was murdered most probably because he was about to blow the whistle on terminal experiments involving British and American and Nazi scientists.

If the Democrats had been in power in 2001, Cheney would not have been VP. And thus, once 9/11 had started, he would not have had access to the Continuity of Government levers of power so insightfully identified by Peter Dale Scott.

However, I don't believe that a White House free of Cheney or Rumsfeld would necessarily have prevented the LIHOP or MIHOP scenarios for 9/11.

The neocons wanted a "new Pearl Harbor". Full stop.

[Magda Hassan]

Cheney and Rumsfeld were both closely involved in the development of COG policy for decades. Their positions were cast a long time ago. The show must go on.

[Magda Hassan]

One thing I have often wondered about is they way Gore just stepped away from it all before it was all over and how he never wanted a recount etc. I have long thought that at some time that night some one had a quiet word with him saying "You really don't want to go there... trust me" Some one once said that to me and I was very thankful too.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Cheney and Rumsfeld were both closely involved in the development of COG policy for decades. Their positions were cast a long time ago. The show must go on.

Yes indeed.

My point was simply that Cheney would not personally have been VP in a Democrat govt.

I'm sure the deep political Sponsors of 9/11 would have found a means of using those COG powers.

[David Guyatt]

Heck, I'm still wondering about your Auntie?

[Magda Hassan]

Heck, I'm still wondering about your Auntie?

Remarkable woman he was.

[David Guyatt]

Did she also smoke cigars?

[Peter Lemkin]

David has to stand in the corner for an hour for that post.....:hmpf:

My feeling is that they'd have waited out a four year term [done some dirty work to get rid of him after that period; as they did to disallow his victory, in the first place] and THEN done the deed. These people have been very steady in their 'Project' and patient. Since WW II or before they have had this gleam in their eye...and while the actual 'Pearl Harbor' [transformative/Uber-frightening] event changes with time and technology] they have proven they can wait a few years. NO President has been completely beyond their control [or when felt to be, was eliminated - one way or another], but they do PREFER a total neo-fascist such as RayGun or W to the left-wing of the right-wing Dumbocraps. So, I think they'd have waited 4 years; gotten in W or someone just like him with Chaney and Rummy and done the deed then. Why should they be pressured by time, when EVERYTHING is going their way....since WWII and 11/22/63 it picked up a little speed......