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Interesting timing What Blagojevich was doing right before he was indicted
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Myra Bronstein Wrote:Yes, as the Eliot Spitzer case illustrates.
I'm convinced that adult prostitution remains illegal to enable the system to entrap people like Spitzer. His encounters in a hotel room should have been an issue between he and his wife, not a Governor-toppling scandal.

Sexual 'assassination' is so very common....ask Gary Hart...ask many others - but they have a 'little book' of options they use over, and over and they seem to get away with.....they can get rid of [or force control over] Congresspersons, Governors and even Presidents - after all they all serve 'at the pleasure' of the real rulers.

Lesson #1- Don't mess with the Deep Political Establishment. If you do, they have 'their ways....'
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#12
To my mind there is no rational reason why personal drug use, adult prostitution and homosexuality are illegal except as form of social and individual control. I will add some information in Black Operations about the Whitehouse Republican military prostitute lackey who had press credentials. So very useful for blackmailing some.

Please see this thread
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...ostcount=1
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#13
Emanuel talked directly to gov: source

DEEPER ROLE? | Pushed Jarrett for Senate seat

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blago...ticle#none
December 18, 2008


BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter nkorecki@suntimes.com

President-elect Barack Obama's incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had a deeper involvement in pressing for a U.S. Senate seat appointment than previously reported, the Sun-Times has learned. Emanuel had direct discussions about the seat with Gov. Blagojevich, who is is accused of trying to auction it to the highest bidder.
Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times. There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however.
A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.
But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.
At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said.
After Jarrett took herself out of the running in mid-November, Emanuel submitted a list of suitable names to the governor's camp that didn't include her name.
Emanuel, who has refused to comment on the issue, is not accused of wrongdoing.
In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment.
Contributing: Fran Spielman
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:To my mind there is no rational reason why personal drug use, adult prostitution and homosexuality are illegal except as form of social and individual control....

That's my recent conclusion as well Maggie. Victimless crimes are tools to be wielded at strategic times. I think it's a significant piece of the big puzzle.
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#15
Another excellent column; Smirking Chimp is smokin' today!

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/19532
Blagojevich stripped of security clearance…Was Palin during ‘Trooper-gate’?
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by MaryMacElveen | January 4, 2009 - 12:43pm

In reading an article in the Chicago Sun Times where Homeland Security has stripped him of his security briefings since he was charged with allegedly selling a senate seat vacated by Pres.-elect Barack Obama, clearly a man who has not even been indicted is being punished.
According to the Sun Times, Amy Kudwa, spokeswoman for Homeland Security. She stated, "Being the subject of a criminal complaint, no matter who you are, is a disqualification," Note the operative word being complaint. There has not been an official indictment and U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald stated it could take three months to indict Gov. Blagojevich. To me, it signifies, justice delayed is justice denied.

One has to wonder if Governor Sarah Palin lost her Homeland Security briefings when a criminal complaint was filed against her in the ‘Trooper-gate Scandal’. I do not remember it being reported when she was Senator John McCain’s running mate in this past presidential election. Incidentally, she was cleared even before any indictment came as she ran for vice president. I find that suspicious. She more than Blagojevich should have been under a microscope since she could have been a heart-beat away from the presidency.
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The Sun Times also reported that, "Jay E. Stewart, executive director of the Better Government Association stated of Blagojevich would be “flying in the dark when it comes to security.” And went onto add, “If there is an issue in Illinois with a national security element, he will not be the first to know about it in the state,” As a duly elected official, Blagojevich has a duty and responsibility to protect his constituents. Dare I say that Homeland Security is putting their safety at risk?

In closing, it seems that a punishment is meted out before-hand where Governor Blagojevich has not even been indicted. Shouldn’t it be the other way around when actual charges can be proven before a grand jury? Some will say that I am supporting corruption, and that is far from the truth. What I am standing up for is the rule of law. Until such time that Governor Blagojevich is actually indicted, is removed from office through any impeachment process where corruption charges can be proven, he on behalf of his citizens should continue to receive those security briefings.
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Myra Bronstein Wrote:Another excellent column; Smirking Chimp is smokin' today!

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/19532
Blagojevich stripped of security clearance…Was Palin during ‘Trooper-gate’?
Government
by MaryMacElveen | January 4, 2009 - 12:43pm

In reading an article in the Chicago Sun Times where Homeland Security has stripped him of his security briefings since he was charged with allegedly selling a senate seat vacated by Pres.-elect Barack Obama, clearly a man who has not even been indicted is being punished.
According to the Sun Times, Amy Kudwa, spokeswoman for Homeland Security. She stated, "Being the subject of a criminal complaint, no matter who you are, is a disqualification," Note the operative word being complaint. There has not been an official indictment and U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald stated it could take three months to indict Gov. Blagojevich. To me, it signifies, justice delayed is justice denied.

One has to wonder if Governor Sarah Palin lost her Homeland Security briefings when a criminal complaint was filed against her in the ‘Trooper-gate Scandal’. I do not remember it being reported when she was Senator John McCain’s running mate in this past presidential election. Incidentally, she was cleared even before any indictment came as she ran for vice president. I find that suspicious. She more than Blagojevich should have been under a microscope since she could have been a heart-beat away from the presidency.
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The Sun Times also reported that, "Jay E. Stewart, executive director of the Better Government Association stated of Blagojevich would be “flying in the dark when it comes to security.” And went onto add, “If there is an issue in Illinois with a national security element, he will not be the first to know about it in the state,” As a duly elected official, Blagojevich has a duty and responsibility to protect his constituents. Dare I say that Homeland Security is putting their safety at risk?

In closing, it seems that a punishment is meted out before-hand where Governor Blagojevich has not even been indicted. Shouldn’t it be the other way around when actual charges can be proven before a grand jury? Some will say that I am supporting corruption, and that is far from the truth. What I am standing up for is the rule of law. Until such time that Governor Blagojevich is actually indicted, is removed from office through any impeachment process where corruption charges can be proven, he on behalf of his citizens should continue to receive those security briefings.

The day things are done even-handedly to those left of center and to those right [or even FAR right] of center will be the day after the Revolution......period.
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#17
Selected exhibits and motions from the US federal prosecution (2005-ongoing) of the Chicago "political fixer" and fundraiser for Governor Blagojevich, Antoin "Tony" Rezko. Governor Blagojevich was indicted on federal corruption charges, December 2008, while "Tony" Rezko was convicted of multiple fraud and corruption related charges on June 4, 2008.
Most of the exhibits concern General Mediterranean Holding SA (GMH SA), Fintrade Services and other companies based in Luxembourg, Chicago and Lebanon, primarily owned or controlled by Nadhmi Auchi. The exhibits revolve around several frauds and more than than a billion dollars of real estate development (Herritage, Riverside et al) around Chicago, controlled by Auchi and Rezko.


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.pdf   rezko-bond-appeal-prosecution-response.pdf (Size: 1.07 MB / Downloads: 4)
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.pdf   rezko-exhibit3-auchi-fintrade-promise.pdf (Size: 537.99 KB / Downloads: 0)
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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More documents.


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.pdf   rezko-exhibit5a-gmh-heritage.pdf (Size: 4.74 MB / Downloads: 0)
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.pdf   rezko-exhibit5c-gmh.pdf (Size: 4.34 MB / Downloads: 0)
.pdf   rezko-exhibit5d-gmh.pdf (Size: 4.35 MB / Downloads: 0)
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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More documents.


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.pdf   rezko-exhibit5j-gmh.pdf (Size: 1.36 MB / Downloads: 0)
.pdf   rezko-exhibit5i-gmh.pdf (Size: 1.96 MB / Downloads: 0)
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#20
Great thread.

I see a bit of JFK in Blagojevich. Your analogy with JFK's steel crisis is apt, Myra.

They've taken him down with obscene haste. Perhaps he should change his name.
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