The Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic Model Applied to 9/11

[Albert Doyle]

From a deep political point of view, the sponsors intended for the towers to come down on 9/11. Had they just stood there smoldering that day, would have sent the aftermath into an entirely different direction. Assuming there was no plane switching that day, body identification and recovery would have been the first task. The buildings would have been crawling with structural engineers analysing the buildings for safety, repair, and whatever demolition needed. Instead we were informed we had been attacked by 19 Arab fanatics who represent people who hate our freedom. The story still goes from there. I argue we would not be living that story if the buildings had been smoldering broken stubs.

Since the buildings had to fall, the sponsors would have had to be assured that just the act of crashing planes into the buildings would have guaranteed that result. No explosives needed? Fine. Let's roll.

I disagree. The Towers were enough of a prominent symbol of New York that simply having them as a perverse neo-con Statue Of Liberty torch belching black terrorist smoke for all to see was enough to elicit the response. Don't forget that these arab terrorists also successfully blasted through the main symbol and bastion of military power in America - the Pentagon. And if Flight 93 wasn't shot down by the fighter jet witnessed appearing right after the crash, that was denied by the authorities, then another Washington icon probably would have served as a gaping reminder of arab terror.

There's simply no way the US, under Bush and the neo-cons, would not have gone to war in the Middle East even with the Towers remaining standing.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

There's simply no way the US, under Bush and the neo-cons, would not have gone to war in the Middle East even with the Towers remaining standing.

That may well be, given that eloborate War Plans for Afghanistan were ready before 9/11 and Iraq was on the agenda completely independent of any involvement in 9/11.
BUT the psychological mass effect, in the US and internationally, would have been completely different. The deliberate programming of the world population by endlessly repeating the second airplane vanishing into the tower on TV, followed by the apocalyptic images of the dust in NY achieved an enormous and lasting effect, which would be greatly diminished, had the towers survived. I doubt that the attack on the Pentagon alone, or the hijacking of one or two airplanes would have had any lasting effect at all, surely not enough to initiate anything like the War on Terror or the Patriot Act or the Department of Homeland Security.
The utter destruction of the towers was absolutely essential to that.

[Charles Drago]

You could not be more wrong, Albert.

The tumescent towers could not be left semi-erect.

The temples must be destroyed. Some 1942 years later, Tisha B'Av is yet a day of fasting and mourning, and the Arch of Titus yet stands.

Why was there such an untoward delay in rebuilding Ground Zero?

Would a wounded JFK have served the Sponsors' deepest purpose?

[Keith Millea]

I doubt that the attack on the Pentagon alone, or the hijacking of one or two airplanes would have had any lasting effect at all, surely not enough to initiate anything like the War on Terror or the Patriot Act or the Department of Homeland Security.

I would have to disagree with this statement.I think the attack on the Pentagon alone would have set the same wheels in motion (war on terror).

[Jan Klimkowski]

This is a layer cake.

In terms of creating a casus belli, any of the acts alone would potentially suffice.

Just as JFK could have been assassinated in private, out of sight.

However, the imposition of a paradigm shift requires a mass public trauma.

JFK must be slaughtered in full view, his head exploding.

The Twin Towers must crumble, their phalllic arrogance smashed.

The Theatre of the Damned.

[Lauren Johnson]

However, the imposition of a paradigm shift requires a mass public trauma.

About the 9:00 mark in the Peter Levenda interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlPUMa9wg...=endscreen) he succinctly summarizes what he calls The Manson Secret: the recognition that human consciousness is malleable along with the technology to act on this recognition. Another way to say this is that reality can be created by the modern shaman.

This is the context behind the strategy of tension, the key to understanding the 20th and now the 21st centurys.

Preparata points out that the British could have stopped the shoah, but demurred. Was the Anglo-American bloc creating the horror that would lead to so much history writing and reality creation since?

[Phil Dragoo]

In back pages Charles referred to the JFK assassination as a dramatic construct.

On this page we are discussing that as a valid observation, namely that the murder which could have been committed more efficiently, quietly, in private was done in the square as a play.

Act Three, Scene V Dallas, Texas, a crowded, cheering motorcade punctuated by a bull ring with Don Juan's picadors, Reaper as matador.

Descent into the Vietnam maelstrom.

Rising through the sewer of Watergate.

Bobbing on a sea of oil.

Land is visible, shining towers

--only to be kamikazeed to miasma by forces around a statue in Baghdad and lurking in the caves of Smackistan.

The FBI which suppressed 99% of relevant information in the former act, saw to it that the potential hero of Act Four, John O'Neill, The Man Who Knew, was gagged and crushed in the collapse.

Now we proceed apace toward Act Five which is general war in the quadrilateral described by Eric Blair/George Orwell who saw it, limned it, shuffled off this mortal coil.

What rough beast--


What metaphor can save us?

Hercules cleans the Augean Stable by the Potomac.

And the crowd went wild.

Bravo!

Footnotes

It is the true believer's ability to "shut his eyes and stop his ears" to facts that do not deserve to be either seen or heard which is the source of his unequaled fortitude and constancy. He cannot be frightened by danger nor disheartened by obstacle not baffled by contradictions because he denies their existence. P.76

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In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening." (p.129)

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Soviet historians have long focused their attention on the attempts to reform the human self, and they bring up the new Soviet man as being essential to the Soviet project. The "totalitarian model" of Soviet society traditionally considered "the cog in a wheel" as a central metaphor for the new Soviet man.11

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[Albert Doyle]

I doubt that the attack on the Pentagon alone, or the hijacking of one or two airplanes would have had any lasting effect at all, surely not enough to initiate anything like the War on Terror or the Patriot Act or the Department of Homeland Security.

I would have to disagree with this statement.I think the attack on the Pentagon alone would have set the same wheels in motion (war on terror).

The only reason Flight 93 didn't put a Kennedy's head sized hole in our democracy by hitting the White House or Capitol Dome is because they got into the cockpit late. The timing wasn't perfect. They tried to keep air cover down long enough to get all the planes to their targets, but 93 was late enough that the coordinators realized they couldn't get away with that long a delay in the air defense response. We are not talking the idiot public here but the military insiders who are powerful enough to cite the lack of response and draw an internal military reaction. Those are the people the deep sponsors fear. Or rather the main facilitators who were responsible to the deep sponsors.

Do you honestly think that Bush and the military Nazis advising him, after seeing the Capitol Dome and Pentagon with a gaping hole in them, would then restrain themselves from all of the above? Really. The Towers didn't need to fall. They were executing the Plan For A New America Century scripted by zionist neo-cons. It was game on and the unfallen Towers would serve as prominent standing advertizements with their gaping holes of terror that could be seen by all of New York.

I was in New York last month. When I drove across the Williamsburg Bridge into Manhattan you could see the new tower being constructed. I looked at the new design with its twisting angles and glass reflections. It immediately gave me a feeling of tension and a painful reminder of the Towers falling. Have no doubt the Sponsors approved of a design that would permanently remind Americans of twisting falling towers in order to keep the memory in the forefront for as long as the new tower stands.

With the fall of the Berlin Wall Soviet Communism was ready to topple with a puff of breath. Unfortunately on 9-11 American democracy was in the same state and was pushed over with the same puff of breath delivered by the same bastards who killed Kennedy.

[Charles Drago]

It was game on and the unfallen Towers would serve as prominent standing advertizements with their gaping holes of terror that could be seen by all of New York.

Have no doubt the Sponsors approved of a design that would permanently remind Americans of twisting falling towers in order to keep the memory in the forefront for as long as the new tower stands..

As always, Albert, I struggle to find common language, experience, and education on which to base our communications.

As always, I fail.

And yet I can't resist: The unseen, remembered is far more powerful a force on human imagination and behavior than is the seen.

[Albert Doyle]

As always, Albert, I struggle to find common language, experience, and education on which to base our communications.

As always, I fail.

And yet I can't resist: The unseen, remembered is far more powerful a force on human imagination and behavior than is the seen.

That's OK Charles. If you lack the education I can explain it to you slowly...