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Libya : A no lie zone
Cynthia McKinney just now:
I was just told that Libya is still being bombed by U.S. drones and that NATO troops from Germany, Italy, France, and US mercenaries are there. Sadly, I was informed that Blacks comprise the bulk of U.S. mercenaries on the ground in Libya. This is not what Malcolm, Martin, the Black Panthers, and others sacrificed for--so that Blacks in the U.S. could go off and help destroy another country, especially one in Africa trying to unite Africans.
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moved
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Naturally one wonders if this has anything to do with the recent abduction of Al-Libi by the US military...
Quote:


Libyan prime minister kidnapped, reports say

Ali Zeidan said to have been taken from hotel in Tripoli by gunmen and driven away to an undisclosed location


Ali Zeidan, the Libyan prime minister. Photograph: Abdeljalil Bounhar/AP

Armed men have kidnapped the Libyan prime minister, Ali Zeidan, from a hotel in Tripoli, according to reports.
Abu Dhabi-based Sky News Arabia quoted Libyan security sources as saying that Zeidan was seized from a hotel where he was staying in the Libyan capital and taken to an unknown destination. Dubai-based al-Arabiya carried a similar report.
According to CNN, armed rebels escorted Zeidan from the Corinthian Hotel in Tripol and took him away in a car. The news service quoted a hotel clerk as saying there was no gunfire and the gunmen "caused no trouble".
Zeidan's office initially denied the abduction on Facebook but later stated the denial was made at the order of the kidnappers.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oc...-kidnapped
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Some talk about the Minister for Finance also being taken. Russia Today is now quoting hotel workers there as saying it was an 'arrest' so maybe the kidnappers were police.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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The US has withdrawn 200 military personnel to a US military base in Italy because of the tension in Libya (caused by them kidnapping Al-Libi?)

The Libyan government has summoned the U.S. Ambassador to Libya Deborah Jones for questioning over what it calls the "abduction" of Abu Anas al Libi.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:The US has withdrawn 200 military personnel to a US military base in Italy because of the tension in Libya (caused by them kidnapping Al-Libi?)

The Libyan government has summoned the U.S. Ambassador to Libya Deborah Jones for questioning over what it calls the "abduction" of Abu Anas al Libi.

Can anyone imagine how the US would react if some outside government sent a special team of military and/or intelligence officers into the USA to capture and remove someone they wanted to try in their courts - or just torture and execute?!
A US spokesperson yesterday said [paraphrasing] 'that they understood Libya's upset and claim to the right to try or not try one of their own citizens, but that the USA would not be returning him and would present him to trial - likely in New York, according to US legal principles.'

What 'principles'?! We have none other than that of brute force allows us to do as we wish - as suits our Oligarchy and their Military and Intelligence underlings.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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More information here from AJ
Quote:Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan has been kidnapped from a hotel in Tripoli by an armed group and taken to an unknown location, the government has said.A former Libyan rebel group said on Thursday it had seized Zeidan after government allowed the United States to capture a top al-Qaeda suspect in Tripoli last weekend.
"The head of the transitional government, Ali Zeidan, was taken to an unknown destination for unknown reasons by a group" of former rebels, the government said in a brief statement on its website on Thursday.
Al Jazeera's Mahmoud AbdalWahid, reporting from Tripoli, said Zeidan was kidnapped by men belonging to a group called the Libyan Revolutionary Operations Chamber, which in principle falls under the defence and interior ministries.
The government said it believed the Chamber was involved but also accused another group, the brigade for the fight against crime, of being behind the kidnapping.
The cabinet and the General National Congress, Libya's top political authority, were dealing with the situation the statement said, while calling on citizens to remain calm.
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Amel Jerary, the director of communications to the prime minister, told Al Jazeera that the raid happened in the middle of the night.
"I'm afraid at this point, nothing is very clear. How it is done, I really don't have any information on this. I'm sure that the people who have done this were very well prepared," Jerary said.
Jerary denied rumours that Libya's finance minister was also kidnapped. "This is not true," she said.
Zeidan was taken by force by gunmen from the Corinthia Hotel in the capital where he resides, security guards at the hotel said.
The circumstances were unclear but one guard described it as an "arrest".
Government officials could not immediately be reached to confirm his whereabouts.
Two years after a revolution toppled Muammar Gaddafi, Libya's central government has been struggling to contain rival tribal groups and fighters who control parts of the country.
Last weekend, the US military captured a top al-Qaeda suspect in Tripoli in a raid that angered armed groups, including one blamed for the 2012 attack on the US consulate, in Benghazi.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/201...77468.html
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Apparently the Libyan PM also has German citizenship so I wonder what Germany will have to say about one of their's being kidnapped? If any thing...
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Reply
Read the Turkish diplomatic mission is leaving for the airport maybe other missions too.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Reply
Magda Hassan Wrote:More information here from AJ
Quote:Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan has been kidnapped from a hotel in Tripoli by an armed group and taken to an unknown location, the government has said.A former Libyan rebel group said on Thursday it had seized Zeidan after government allowed the United States to capture a top al-Qaeda suspect in Tripoli last weekend.
"The head of the transitional government, Ali Zeidan, was taken to an unknown destination for unknown reasons by a group" of former rebels, the government said in a brief statement on its website on Thursday.
Al Jazeera's Mahmoud AbdalWahid, reporting from Tripoli, said Zeidan was kidnapped by men belonging to a group called the Libyan Revolutionary Operations Chamber, which in principle falls under the defence and interior ministries.
The government said it believed the Chamber was involved but also accused another group, the brigade for the fight against crime, of being behind the kidnapping.
The cabinet and the General National Congress, Libya's top political authority, were dealing with the situation the statement said, while calling on citizens to remain calm.
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[TD="class: caption"]A video still circulating on social media allegedly showing Prime Minster Ali Zeidan at the time he was taken from his hotel [Facebook][/TD]
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Amel Jerary, the director of communications to the prime minister, told Al Jazeera that the raid happened in the middle of the night.
"I'm afraid at this point, nothing is very clear. How it is done, I really don't have any information on this. I'm sure that the people who have done this were very well prepared," Jerary said.
Jerary denied rumours that Libya's finance minister was also kidnapped. "This is not true," she said.
Zeidan was taken by force by gunmen from the Corinthia Hotel in the capital where he resides, security guards at the hotel said.
The circumstances were unclear but one guard described it as an "arrest".
Government officials could not immediately be reached to confirm his whereabouts.
Two years after a revolution toppled Muammar Gaddafi, Libya's central government has been struggling to contain rival tribal groups and fighters who control parts of the country.
Last weekend, the US military captured a top al-Qaeda suspect in Tripoli in a raid that angered armed groups, including one blamed for the 2012 attack on the US consulate, in Benghazi.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/201...77468.html


Plenty of very weird things happening just now in Libya.....How did he come to have German citizenship?! Was he living there during the Qaddafi regime?

AJ is now saying that the group that kidnapped/arrested him were doing so on the orders of the 'Military'....though the government has denied this - sort of - and confusion reigns as to who authorized this event...let alone the reason for it.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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