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Double Hijack of "Arctic Sea" (ongoing)
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes, he does and that is an area of interest for me (Victor Bout). Ed Jewett has just yesterday done a great review of Esulin's new book. Well worth a read. I will definitely be getting hold of that book too.

Estulin interview with Dimitri Khalezov - mainly about Victor Bout here

Done in Bangkok just after the last-ditch (temporary) reprieve for Bout from extradition to the US. Khalezov is also a Russian exile living in Bangkok. His stuff on 911 and nuclear demolition ticks a lot of boxes but I really don't know quite what to make of him.

He put an article up on Wikipedia in March this year which lasted just a few days. The language was English but the grammar Russian. I've re-written it and put it up on Wikispooks too.
Peter Presland

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#52
Peter, thanks for saving that article on wikispooks.

The ship in question seems to be in Canada now:
Arctic Sea going to Canada

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 More articles in Accidents

Canadian carrier adds mystery ship
Short sea shipping operator Great Lakes Feeder Lines, which operates between Halifax, Montreal, Lake Ontario and other ports carrying both containers, breakbulk and heavy lift cargo, has added a second ship to its fleet, the Arctic Sea.
Like the carrier's existing ship, Dutch Runner, the Arctic Sea will be used to move cargo in the Great Lakes and along the East Coast of Canada and the United States. The company took delivery of the ship last week in Malta and it is carrying a load of cargo from Greece to Quebec as it repositions.
The ship achieved notoriety last year when it was reportedly hijacked in the Baltic Sea off the coast of Sweden while on a routine voyage carrying timber from Finland to Algeria.
After authorities lost contact with the ship, it was found several weeks later in the Cape Verde Islands off the West Coast of Africa.
At the time there was widespread speculation that the ship might be carrying arms or other dangerous cargo.
Russian authorities said the ship was hijacked by thugs who beat the crew, but many observers were never satisfied with the explanation. A January article in the Financial Times called it one of the mysteries of the past decade.
American Shipper

Comments: I know that Solchart is selling it’s fleet – I know for sure about selling at least 2 vessels, one with heavy debt. Maybe Solchart plans to cover debt with Arctic Sea sale. Company Solchart is not the first and won’t be the last to bust in a very dangerous business of transporting some dubious goods to dubious countries in clandestine operations, covered by innocent-looking cargoes. There was and is constant timber cargo flow from North Europe to North Africa, everybody was happy except those who didn’t like all that, and they put an end to undercover logistics by a unique operation of vessel’s highjack. Main players still unknown, all mishaps left with carrier. Don’t play with devil – it’s a no-win game. Still, new persons and new companies eager to get big easy bucks go in for such transportations, and got busted, killed, convicted – you name it.
Mikhail Voytenko


Source:http://www.odin.tc/eng/articles/298-Arct...Canada.asp
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#53
Peter Presland Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes, he does and that is an area of interest for me (Victor Bout). Ed Jewitt has just yesterday done a great review of Esulin's new book. Well worth a read. I will definitely be getting hold of that book too.

Estulin interview with Dimitri Khalezov - mainly about Victor Bout here

Done in Bangkok just after the last-ditch (temporary) reprieve for Bout from extradition to the US. Khalezov is also a Russian exile living in Bangkok. His stuff on 911 and nuclear demolition ticks a lot of boxes but I really don't know quite what to make of him.

He put an article up on Wikipedia in March this year which lasted just a few days. The language was English but the grammar Russian. I've re-written it and put it up on Wikispooks too.

Is it just me? Or am I missing an essential point?

As it stands I simply cannot buy into Khalezov's "mini-nukes" story - especially the 911 Pentagon Russian nuclear-tipped missile (with thermo-nuclear warhead 25 x greater than Hiroshima) - not to mention the Bali bombing. Where's all the devastation? Where's the cancers? Where's the radiation suits of the Emergency teams?

911 Pentagon:

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Hiroshima:

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Bali bombing:

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Hiroshima:

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David Guyatt Wrote:[quote=Peter Presland]
Is it just me? Or am I missing an essential point?

As it stands I simply cannot buy into Khalezov's "mini-nukes" story - especially the 911 Pentagon Russian nuclear-tipped missile (with thermo-nuclear warhead 25 x greater than Hiroshima) - not to mention the Bali bombing. Where's all the devastation? Where's the cancers? Where's the radiation suits of the Emergency teams?
I'm not promoting Khalezov particularly but a few of points.

1. He doesn't allege mini-nukes for the WTC. He alleges much bigger - circa 150Kt - deep underground ones. The Manhattan sub-strata is granite and 150Kt is the "Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty" max it seems. The theory is set out in that wikispooks article. I don't go all the way with it but, if the science of 'crush-zone' propagation it explains is accurate and the detonation IS at a optimum depth under the foundations, then it has considerable merit IMHO.

2. It explains otherwise very difficult to explain phenomena viz:
a) White heat molten metal 3 months after the events - not an easy one for thermite residues.
b) The apparent crumbling to dust of core columns and clearly visible in a number of NIST videos - the only other explanation I've seen is Directed Energy Weapons (DEW's) which I find even less tenable - but don't entirely rule out either.
c) They don't make tank shells out of aluminum. IOW think about an aluminum tube suspended in mid air being hit by a single outer tower column of 2.5 inches thick and 12 inches square x-section at say 500 mph (slower than a tank shell) and try to visualise what happens. And we are asked to believe that the aluminium tube with aluminum wafers protruding laterally severed over twenty of those outer columns then went on to sever about ten more even bigger core ones.
On © Khalezov postulates the visible building damage as being caused by thermite enhanced charges set between the outer skin and the outer columns - whether or not the claimed commercial aircraft, or something else, or no aircraft, hit as well. That would explain the showers of molten aluminium seen in some of the videos.

3. The pictures you post show the effects of the thermal and blast waves typical of an atmospheric explosion. All that thermal/blast wave energy is translated into something very different when the blast is totally confined - and that something very different is claimed to be easily capabable of causing massive steel columns to crumble into fine powder. Again explained in the article.

Don't get me wrong on this. I just think it needs the critical attention of others who are experienced in the science and effects of deep underground nuclear explosions - and they are very thin on the ground it seems.
Peter Presland

".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
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#55
Thanks Peter. No criticism directed at you btw (and I also realize you're not putting your weight behind the story). You know what high regard I hold you in.

The evidence for Thermite in the Twin Towers seems very good to me (as a non scientific non techie sort). And as a non scientific non techie person the possibility of a nuclear explosion to damage the Pentagon and Bali Disco Club still seems highly unlikely. Overkill is probably the word I'm looking for.

Would such a detonation not leave glass marbles on the surface as was the case in underground nuke explosions during the 1950's in Nevada and other testing grounds? Would it not kick off all sorts of nuclear "sniffer" sensors and have Emergency Services severely "tooled-up" in Chernobyl type MOP4 kit, rather than ambling around for days and weeks afterwards in normal service issued attire? Would it be so specific - i.e. accurately target a very small (and virtually uninhabited) part of the Pentagon/Bali Disco rather than having much wider devastation area?

But yes you're right, we would benefit from someone far more knowledgeable in these matters providing a more penetrating and insightful analysis.
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The principal allegations stem from a Spanish prosecutor, José Grinda González, who has spent more than a decade trying to unravel the activities of Russian organised crime in Spain. Spanish authorities have arrested more than 60 suspects, including the top four mafia bosses outside Russia.

In a startling briefing for US officials in January, Grinda said Russia was a "virtual mafia state" in which "one cannot differentiate between the activities of the government and OC [organised crime] groups".

Grinda said he had evidence – thousands of wiretaps have been used in the last 10 years – that certain political parties in Russia worked hand in hand with mafia groups. He alleged that intelligence officials orchestrated gun shipments to Kurdish groups to destabilise Turkey and were pulling the strings behind the 2009 case of the Arctic Sea cargo ship suspected of carrying missiles destined for Iran.
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#57
Sounds just like the US.
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