Al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden 'dead'. Again.

[James Lewis]

Ah, Peter...you hit the nail right on the head. "Old friend" is exactly the right terminology to use concerning Mr. Bin Laden. Of course, because of our "friends" in the mainstream media, most ordinary people don't know about the CIA's role in the initial creation of this creature/boogeyman. Me, I just wonder how much Photoshopping will be done to create a "death mask" to convince the gullible public that the person they see is actually Osama Bin Laden? The LHO reference is correct...one must take out the patsy to keep the plan secret/operational. I just hope we're ready for the blowback that's coming...brace yourselves, America.

While unclear if this really is OBL, yes why take so long to kill an old friend and useful boggieman? Also, from what I heard they captured him alive and killed him - why not arrest him and try him for all the various things they claimed - sort of made me think like LHO been shut up.....as the truth would be all too damning. Why do I think there will be no definitive proof it was him.

I find it very sad to see all the Americans celebrating thinking that the person who 'pulled off' 911 et al. was killed.....it is my firm belief that the masterminds of 911 are alive and well - many in the beltway or connected to it.

Coming just a day after a second attempt on Gadaffi makes one wonder who is trying to clear the chess board....

The location of the supposed mission in the mansion is just a few Km from where Pakistani Intelligence officers are trained. Interesting, as whoever it was, he/they were long living there.

Real event of phony one, this will create more revenge than I think the US is prepared for.

Everyone in MSM and MS-World taking for granted Obama's claims that OBL was responsible for 911, when FBI wanted poster and attending details do NOT list him for that......something is very rotten...but we long knew that.

[Peter Lemkin]

But the 'War On Terror' our war to never end wars will continue...of this I'm sure! :mexican:

I hope this brings back all the strange anomalies to the light of review and research, such as the phony OBL videos; the bin Laden's being flown out of the USA and Canada just after 911, his having been a patient in a US Military Medical facility, his 'escape' from Tora Bora, the long dead OBL now being killed again, all the evidence that at BEST OBL was a useful tool in 911 for others.

This whole persona [if not 'legend' in the intelligence sense] needs to be deconstructed and researched much further. I take nothing that the US Govt. is saying now or over the last two decades about OBL at face value.

[Ed Jewett]

According to news reported by WikiLeaks, threats have been received from al-Qaeda terrorists, stating that they will "unleash a nuclear hellstorm" upon Western countries if Osama bin Laden is ever caught or killed.
Further, an al-Qaeda senior commander revealed that their group has hidden a nuclear device somewhere in Europe, which will be exploded if and when Osama bin Laden is nabbed or assassinated, per recent "top secret" documents, publicized by whistle-blower WikiLeaks.
These files contain confidential specifics regarding the backgrounds and confinement of 780 prisoners who have been held or released from the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba, including their medical condition and whatever information they have divulged during questioning.
The questioning discovered other possible plots including one to recruit staff at Heathrow Airport and the poisoning of public buildings in the U.S. by putting cyanide in the air conditioning. About 200 detainees labeled as dangerous international terrorists and hundreds were assessed as "low-level foot soldiers."
Also disclosed, was information that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, operational commander of al-Qaeda, along with approximately 150 innocent Pakistanis and Afghans were arrested and jailed. Some were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Any of those persons taken to Guantanamo were basically unable to prove their innocence, even if they were innocent.
Certain U.S. and European news centers, have received these documents which state that at the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the U.S., the key figures associated with al-Qaeda, were meeting in a safe house in Karachi, Pakistan. From this location, they watched the airplanes crash into the World Trade Center, on live TV.
At the same time, the accused planner of the USS' Cole bombing, near Yemen, was recuperating from a tonsillectomy; the mastermind of the Bali 2001 bombing was busy purchasing lab equipment for a biological weapons endeavor.
By the next day, many of the al-Qaeda terrorist associates quietly returned to Afghanistan to do their strategic planning for an extended war, as reports were made by the Washington Post, about new information on the al-Qaeda terror brigade's location.
The secret files describe the 9/11 terrorist assaults and the locations of its' planners at the time of the attacks, which included the "world's most wanted" Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri his deputy.
The documents also state that on Sept. 15th, bin Laden and his group met in Kandahar province, at a guest house to "defend Afghanistan against infidel invaders" and to "fight in the name of Allah."
In spite of the promise by President Obama when he took office, to close Guantanamo Bay he couldn't win his political fight with Republicans over this matter - and now he won't be able to close it at all a rather embarrassing situation for Obama.

http://current.com/news/93194115_wikilea...killed.htm

[Peter Lemkin]

According to news reported by WikiLeaks, threats have been received from al-Qaeda terrorists, stating that they will "unleash a nuclear hellstorm" upon Western countries if Osama bin Laden is ever caught or killed.
Further, an al-Qaeda senior commander revealed that their group has hidden a nuclear device somewhere in Europe, which will be exploded if and when Osama bin Laden is nabbed or assassinated, per recent "top secret" documents, publicized by whistle-blower WikiLeaks.

http://current.com/news/93194115_wikilea...killed.htm

Oh, boy...can't wait.....good times are here again...NOT!

[James Lewis]

Peter, as muckraking journalist George Seldes stated in the late 1800s, take nothing for granted when dealing with the US media. They will manipulate anything and anyone for the express purpose of satisfying the people who sponsor and/or pay them. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that the great majority of the supposed "Bin Laden" videos were fake...but the majority of the American public, who are gullible to begin with, will take those videos and anything else the media spews out at face value, because they simply don't know any better, or want to. How do I know this? Because I just had an argument with someone in my household about that very thing, and what did they say?? "Why would they lie about his being dead?" Just saying...

But the 'War On Terror' our war to never end wars will continue...of this I'm sure! :mexican:

I hope this brings back all the strange anomalies to the light of review and research, such as the phony OBL videos; the bin Laden's being flown out of the USA and Canada just after 911, his having been a patient in a US Military Medical facility, his 'escape' from Tora Bora, the long dead OBL now being killed again, all the evidence that at BEST OBL was a useful tool in 911 for others.

This whole persona [if not 'legend' in the intelligence sense] needs to be deconstructed and researched much further. I take nothing that the US Govt. is saying now or over the last two decades about OBL at face value.

[Peter Lemkin]

A very sad and ironic [moronic?] reaction of the blood-thristy crowds in D.C. and N.Y.C. are saying and chanting that the 'war on terror' is now over..... I hate to tell them.... How very naive the Sheeple are - they haven't a clue of how they are manipulated and propagandized, lied to. :what:

Whether or not Al Quida and others have nukes or bioweapons - or just plain Semtex....the response to this 'event' [real or not] will be extreme in Europe and N.A. Fasten your seatbelt! Rather than the phony war on terror being 'over', I think it has just entered a whole new 'hot' phase.

[James Lewis]

Well, moronic would be the correct term for what you're seeing out of these crowds in D.C., NYC, and elsewhere. I think we both know that good old jingoism is one of the best ways to blind the American public to the things that are happening right under their noses that are far more important than what happens/happened to Mr. Bin Laden. Little do those people know...the shit is about to hit the fan...and they better hope it doesn't hit them square in the face. The phony war on terror is about to hit its next phase...and those people in the streets may well wish Mr. Bin Laden was still alive when it's all over.

A very sad and ironic [moronic?] reaction of the blood-thristy crowds in D.C. and N.Y.C. are saying and chanting that the 'war on terror' is now over..... I hate to tell them.... Now very naive the Sheeple are - they haven't a clue of how they are manipulated and propagandized, lied to. :what:

Whether or not Al Quida and others have nukes or bioweapons - or just plain Semtex....the response to this 'event' [real or not] will be extreme in Europe and N.A. Fasten your seatbelt! Rather than the phony war on terror being 'over', I think it has just entered a whole new 'hot' phase.

[Magda Hassan]

Dead? Again? I wonder whose body they'll use? Maybe he's been in the deep freezer until needed. Maybe they'll use a double. Maybe they'll have tiny pieces of something. In any case just another side show. :pinkelephant:

[Peter Lemkin]

Dead? Again? I wonder whose body they'll use? Maybe he's been in the deep freezer until needed. Maybe they'll use a double. Maybe they'll have tiny pieces of something. In any case just another side show. :pinkelephant:

I'd bet the double who acted in the video tape [the one where he's wrong-handed AND wearing a ring on one finger] is laying low...as they just might need his body for another mission.....:mexican:

[Carsten Wiethoff]

From http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/0...laden-dead

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT ON OSAMA BIN LADEN

East Room

11:35 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child's embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda's leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat al Qaeda.

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There's no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must - and we will -- remain vigilant at home and abroad.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not - and never will be - at war with Islam. I've made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Over the years, I've repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we've done. But it's important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded.

So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda's terror: Justice has been done.

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today's achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it's the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.