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It was a staged execution.
If it was Osama, then They clearly didn't want Bin Laden giving his side in TV interviews or - heaven forbid - a courtroom.
Quote:U.S. team's mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture
WASHINGTON | Mon May 2, 2011 8:24am EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.
"This was a kill operation," the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.
(Reporting by Mark Hosenball, writing by Matt Spetalnick)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/0...H220110502
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:It was a staged execution.
If it was Osama, then They clearly didn't want Bin Laden giving his side in TV interviews or - heaven forbid - a courtroom.
Quote:U.S. team's mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture
WASHINGTON | Mon May 2, 2011 8:24am EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.
"This was a kill operation," the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.
(Reporting by Mark Hosenball, writing by Matt Spetalnick)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/0...H220110502
That's pretty damning admission....that it was a 'kill' op......what did they not want to hear at his trial [as if we don't know!!!!]....yes, I think it does come down to why now.....and I fear it has less to do with gold stars for Obama's good homework assignment, nor distraction from his political embarrassments. I fear it is a MAJOR distraction of attention so that something very horrible can be done or started when no one is watching......time will tell.
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Maybe another Bin Laden message was upcoming, this time for real. I could imagine several issues on which a statement by a healthy looking Osama would have been very painful for the US.
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"Iran says the death of bin Laden has removed "any excuse" for the United States and its allies for deploying forces in the Middle East under the pretext of fighting terrorism."
The timing of Obama being president, and wanting to pull troops out of the middle east, the rise of China is so convenient.
I'm starting to think they have known for years where he was and could of got him at any time, but waited for maximum political capital.
Any word from his family...........
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Video footage of inside the compound. Looks very domestic and is if he were in his bed when he was murdered.
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"Tell-all' biographies were released by all the pertinent political leaders over the last 12 months - Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld, Oz PM John Howard - with timing too concise to be coincidental. Each gave their 'frank' and 'honest' assessment of the 9/11 attacks, throwing out the occasional limited-hangout 'mistake' (as with some of Rumsfeld's damning mock-contrite retrospective assessments), reinforced the official story (ala Howard's dim and annoying volume) or flat out lied (all of the above, but note Blair's comments re 9/11 where he boldly states "We received no warnings at all. None" - a gross distortion of the facts that even he would know was incorrect).
The propaganda in place, the scene is set for a 10th anniversary geared to move the public on, to place 9/11 as an 'old' story and one which no longer bears that much scrutiny. If Bin Laden is dead, then 9/11 has been avenged. Perhaps new events will provide continuing reasons for US military might to remain in the Middle East? If we're no longer 'over there' because of 9/11 and Bin Laden is dead, what are all these 9/11 truthers going on about and why should I read their books, watch their DVD's, or listen to their conspiratorial theories? Can't they get a life?
Bin Laden served a propaganda purpose in the years following 9/11, and probably did (a more subtle theory worth following) in the years prior as well. Perhaps the purpose has changed. One thing is clear though - the next radical foreigner chosen to 'confess' to a false flag will be backed up with a much more concrete 'official story' - keeping the Bin Laden / 9/11 mythology afloat has taken a lot of work and suffered serious blows from the most humble of activists. I doubt they'll let the official story be as easily wounded next time.
If the US feels that they have 'avenged' 9/11, will they now be twice as quick to demand blood the next time an evil mastermind patsy is dangled in front of them? Deep in the intel war-rooms of the Pentagon and Langley, I'm sure many of these topics are receiving serious discussion.
Bin Laden's 'burial at sea' is in keeping with the here today, gone tomorrow nature of much of the critical 9/11 evidence, right down to torture recordings destroyed and terabytes of Able Danger terrorist data-mining logs deleted on Rumsfeld's direct orders. I expect this story, fake on some, many or even all levels, to be endlessly replayed and recounted for the rest of the year.
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So cringeworthy seeing all those people celebrating....if only they knew the truth. 
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Even before U.S. special forces succeeded in their mission to capture or kill Osama bin Laden earlier today, Twitter users were recording a rough outline of the events to come.
Sohaib Athar, who describes himself as a 30-ish independent software consultant "taking a break from the rat-race by hiding in the mountains with his laptops," happened to be in Abbottabad, Pakistan, about 10 hours ago.
Athar heard the helicopters used during the raid. He shared updates live on Twitter, according to the microblogging service's timestamps. And he's likely to be a footnote in history as a result.
![[Image: sohaib-small_120x120.jpg]](http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/05/01/sohaib-small_120x120.jpg) Sohaib Athar
(Credit: Sohaib Athar)
President Obama announced bin Laden's demise this evening, saying the elusive al-Qaeda leader was killed in a firefight and the identity of his body had been confirmed. (See related CNET story.)
Here are some excerpts from the conversation that Athar and other Twitter users had over the last 10 hours:
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...0286358528
Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event). about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...0226168832
A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...7144796160
@m0hcin all silent after the blast, but a friend heard it 6 km away too... the helicopter is gone too. about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck in reply to m0hcin
https://twitter.com/m0hcin/status/64791032579108864
Just talked to family in Abbottabad, say they heard three blasts one after another, don't know what really happened. about 10 hours ago via web
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status/64793269908930560
@m0hcin the few people online at this time of the night are saying one of the copters was not Pakistani... about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck in reply to m0hcin
https://twitter.com/m0hcin/status/64794837077065728
Seems something nasty happening in #Abbottabad, God save us. about 9 hours ago via web
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...9418088448
Since taliban (probably) don't have helicpoters, and since they're saying it was not "ours", so must be a complicated situation #abbottabad about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...2332278785
The abbottabad helicopter/UFO was shot down near the Bilal Town area, and there's report of a flash. People saying it could be a drone. about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/tahirakram/status/64797447821602816
@ReallyVirtual Damn. Unusual. Was it of Pakistan Army? about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck in reply to ReallyVirtual
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...2354763776
@tahirakram very likely - but it was too noisy to be a spy craft, or, a very poor spy craft it was. about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...5167657984
@kursed Well, there were at least two copters last night, I heard one but a friend heard two, for 15-20 minutes. about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck in reply to kursed
https://twitter.com/naqvi/status/64883228590350336
i think the helicopter crash in Abbottabad, Pakistan and the President Obama breaking news address are connected. about 3 hours ago via web Retweeted by ReallyVirtual
https://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status...5167657984
Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it. about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck
If they were flying in great bloody big helicopters in at 1 am I don't think it was too much of a surprise for OBL then. "Blasts" sounds like maybe some sort of stun greande? Then they shoot after entry or maybe they just killed everyone by grenade.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:If they were flying in great bloody big helicopters in at 1 am I don't think it was too much of a surprise for OBL then. "Blasts" sounds like maybe some sort of stun greande? Then they shoot after entry or maybe they just killed everyone by grenade.
A Pakistani military commentator on Sky News (aka a spokesman for ISI), just stated that there is absolutely no way that Pakistani military and intelligence agencies were kept uninformed of US helicopters conducting a raid.
Meanwhile, right-wing and military parts of cyberspace are claiming that the operation was conducted by SEALS using Blackwater helicopters and possibly personnel.
Perhaps the reality is that it was Blackwater helicopters already based in Pakistan, run by whomever has replaced hired gun Raymond Davis as the TF373/PMC death squad liaison between official US intelligence and the off-the-books operations.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:http://wildfire.gigya.com/facebook/previ...%3D%3D&s=1
Video footage of inside the compound. Looks very domestic and is if he were in his bed when he was murdered.
Of course he was murdered, we are Murder Inc. It was a Fred Hampton action....come when they are asleep and kill them in bed......
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