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Naval Intelligence, MKUltra and the Hippie Movement
#41
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:One little footnote. A recent biographer claimed that the spook and novelist, Anthony Burgess, based A Clockwork Orange on real behaviour modification programmes carried out in secret American military experiments, that Burgess had learned of through his intelligence connections.

So far, not so surprizing.

However the alleged location of these military experiments is a surprize. And a very suggestive one.

These experiments were said to have taken place in Fort Bliss. And Fort Bliss was where a large number of the Nazi "scientists" spirited out of Europe under Paperclip were taken.

A Nazi Blue Bird... reborn from the ashes of World World Two... in Vietnam and California... as a Phoenix???

A Phoenix Program?

Seeking to control the extremes of human behaviour through Programming.

Seeking to track and predict human behaviour through Promis.

However, as Clockwork Orange director, Stanley Kubrick, chronicled, HAL and his programmes don't always work as planned....

Jan, as you probably know, the origin of mind control activity was in WWII Axis powers experimentation, namely Japanese research and the Nazi horrible "camps" (see below), so the Fort Bliss activity, if true, was simply a continuation of Nazi technology. Dare one use the words "Schutzstaffel" [Image: 16px-Schutzstaffel_SS_SVG1.1.svg.png] in its Black Sun variant, Schwarze Sonne


Quote:http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/some_aspects_pr.htm

SOME ASPECTS OF ANTI PERSONNEL ELECTROMAGNETIC WEAPONS

Synopsis prepared for the International Committee of the Red Cross Symposium:

THE MEDICAL PROFESSION AND THE EFFECTS OF WEAPONS - FEBRUARY 1996

By David Guyatt

Background - 1940 through 1995

The background to the development of anti-personnel electromagnetic weapons can be traced by to the early-middle 1940’s and possibly earlier. The earliest extant reference, to my knowledge, was contained in the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey (Pacific Survey, Military Analysis Division, Volume 63) which reviewed Japanese research and development efforts on a “Death Ray”.

Whilst not reaching the stage of practical application, research was considered to be sufficiently promising to warrant the expenditure of Yen 2 million during the years 1940-1945. Summarizing the Japanese efforts allied scientists concluded that a ray apparatus might be developed that could kill unshielded human beings at a distance of 5 to 10 miles. Studies demonstrated that, for example, automobile engines could be stopped by tuned waves as early as 1943.[1] It is, therefore, reasonable to suppose that this technique has been available for a great many years? Research on living organisms ( mice and ground hogs) revealed that waves from 2 meters to 60 centimeters in length caused hemorrhage of lungs, whereas waves shorter than two meters destroyed brain cells.

However, experiments in behaviour modification and mind manipulation have a grisly past. Nazi doctors at the Dachau concentration camp conducted involuntary experiments with hypnosis and narco-hypnosis - using the drug mescaline - on inmates. Additional research was conducted at Aushwitz, using a range of chemicals including various barbiturates and morphine derivatives. Many of these experiments proved fatal. Following the conclusion of the war the U.S. Naval Technical Mission was tasked with obtaining pertinent industrial and scientific material that had been produced by the Third Reich and which may be of benefit to U.S. interests. Following a lengthy report the Navy instigated Project CHATTER in 1947. Many of the Nazi scientists and medical doctors who conducted these and other hideous experiments were later recruited by the U.S. Army and worked out of Heidelberg prior to being secretly relocated to the United States under the Project PAPERCLIP programme. Under the leadership of Dr. Hubertus Strughold, 34 ex Nazi scientists accepted “Paperclip” contracts, authorised by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and were put to work at Randolph Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas. By 1953 the CIA, US Navy and the US Army Chemical Corps were conducting their own narco-hypnosis programmes on unwilling victims that included prisoners, mental patients, foreigners, ethic minorities and those classified as sexual deviants.[2]
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#42
David - yes, indeed. Thank you for that excerpt from your ICRC paper.

Loosely, I would categorize the "scientific" inheritance as follows:

Biological weapons - primarily Japanese "research"

EM/pulse/Tesla weapons - both Nazi & Japanese

"Mind control"/narcotics/dissociated states - primarily Nazi research.

Some of the "mind control" survivors who were interviewed in the 90s by many researchers, including myself, spoke of a "Dr Green", who was allegedly the protege of a Nazi "doctor" who conducted "mind control" experiments in concentration camps.

This is very controversial terrritory.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#43
I just found a website that describes the people discussed in David McGowan's series on Laurel Canyon and Lookout Mountain film-making at http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html. It describes musician families' connections to military intelligence:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00357.html
"History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." --James Madison
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#44
Linda Minor Wrote:I just found a website that describes the people discussed in David McGowan's series on Laurel Canyon and Lookout Mountain film-making at http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html. It describes musician families' connections to military intelligence:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00357.html

Thanks for those Linda. The first is far superior to the other. In the second one he seems to simply condemn anyone who was the child of someone in the military or intelligence. Many I know were, but reacted to that in positive ways. How someone acts in life is fair game - who their parents were is not always relevant - though it can be germain, IF they follow in their footsteps, but only then.

NB - Linda, I for one would appreciate your posting as often as you like/can. You are one of the chosen people to see into the current/past 'situation(s)', IMO.
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#45
Yes, very interesting Linda. I think Kate should add her thoughts too?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#46
David Guyatt Wrote:Yes, very interesting Linda. I think Kate should add her thoughts too?

Wes Penre's article was very good and did add some new items that Dave hasn't touched on so far. However, I was once a big fan of Illuminati News and yes, there are many excellent articles to read, but I prefer consistency on any site I frequent. If you read enough and long enough on that site you will find it 'pro' religion at times and 'anti' religion at other times.

After all these years of bashing the Illuminati and warning us what they are up to, it now seems that Wes, and the rest of us, have had it all wrong and lo and behold it has been brought to his attention that the Illuminati are the good guys!

Here is just one segment of the article where he now sets us all straight. Maybe it is me but read the whole article and see how it makes you feel.

"I personally don't know the names of the people involved in the benevolent Illuminati of today. When they communicate with me they are doing so via other persons, who relay the communication for security purposes. This group is of course very secret, or it would be immediately destroyed. It's kept pure due to that the members personally know each other, but are still tested for loyalty on a regular basis to avoid infiltration. I asked them if they are wealthy and they said "yes", but instead of using the wealth for themselves, they claim they use it for the cause. This is all I can say about them right now, and I am never going to reveal anything that would put them at more risk than they already are."
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00392.html

Maybe I am too skeptical but this seems to be on line with people who Channel and really have no idea who or what they are communicating with but get caught up by ego thinking they have been chosen out of the masses for a revelation. It would be grand to know there was a secret organization working against the evil of this world but something about this whole thing with Wes just does not add up or sit well with my way of reasoning. I wonder why it took these 'good guys' so long to let a chosen few know the 'truth'?

I am also the person who sent McGowan's link to Wes and never received a reply, but he wasted no time adding it to his collection. That was prior to his own article being written.

As for the offspring of these military families, they are victims in my opinion. Maybe blackmail is a large part of forcing people to use their own kids or maybe it is money. Perhaps it was some sick demented rite of passage to be part of those 'in the know'. If satanism is at the root of all of this, sacrificing ones children is the ultimate act of loyalty.

We all know now that J. Edgar Hoover used blackmail for years and he was in the most powerful office of the land. At this point few things surprise me.
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#47
That's an interesting insight Kate. I've never read Illuminati News per se, although I have stumbled across a few stories published by them when researching various other things.

The question is therefore, are there "good" Illuminati? Like you I would need to be convinced of that. Prof. Antony Sutton in his four little books on the Order of the Skulls and Bones made it very clear that this Order was a continuation of the Illuminati - as was the Oxford "Group".

Any secret Order that has several generations of the Bush family as members are, de facto, bloody stinking evil imo.

But it is not uncommon for secret societies to begin life with the best of intentions only to be later corrupted. This is one of the great dangers of secrecy of course. One might point, as an example, to the Rosicrucian Order that begun life thanks to the great energy and intellect Sir Francis Bacon. Today, so far as I can tell, the various Rosicrucian Orders like AMORC are the repository of the very worst people and things - and, of course, the British Rosicrucians were, and have always had, a heavy membership from British intelligence, because Bacon himself was an "intelligencer" for his mother, Queen Elizabeth 1, in her ever perilous fight against the Holy Roman Church that continually sought to usurp her.

Having said this I think it possible that there are good people within these Orders but they would be the minority and not representative of the Orders current aims and ambitions. The gold in the dungheap so to speak.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#48
David, like I said, there are great articles to be found on Iluminati News but this sudden turn around due to information from unknown and un-named sources is rather strange. I will need much more proof than second hand revelations.

There are many good people in secret societies and the majority of them are not aware of what goes on the upper decks of control where they will never rise to. Like religious congregations, they are the workers who fund the secret projects thinking they are doing good. You can't fight an evil if you don't see it for what it is and sadly most people refuse to see. Religions are the very root and core of deception and mass control.

I just bought a book by Jon Rappoport, Secret Behind Secret Societies, The - Liberation of the Planet in the 21st Century. This is from the introduction:
The way of the secret society is a way of life. At its root, it is not grinning skulls and sputtering candles in dark rooms. It is not that provincial.

The secret society reflects one invisible tradition that has existed on Earth for a hundred thousand years. It is the main Way that people have lived on this planet.

There is another way, another tradition, more invisible, more powerful. This book is about these two avenues.

It is amazing, at this late date, that so many people think power is merely a cake of clay that six billion of us are beating at with hammers. It is astonishing that so many people think power is a mound of lumps and dust that six billion of us are fighting over.

Power has been taken by very well-run organizations. Major power.

On the other side of the coin, there is a growing crowd that thinks we must invoke fire-eating lizards or Satan to explain how power has been stolen from us.

This is a book about the organizations that have carted off something very vital in the middle of the night - and how to get it back. More than that, it is about the exact methods used to unhook us from all that we are.

I have done enough excavation to expose the central ruse, to show two invisible traditions of history. I have gotten into the shiny stainless steel vault in the big bank, looked around, and pointed out the obvious. And then after that I have refused to budge.

I believe we are grappling, as if in a dream, with the layers of anesthetic that surround the core of our being. This book is a search for ... what? A platform from which to view the place in ourselves which could revolutionize the future.

This search is not new, and we have all been over significant ground before. But we turn away, we demean ourselves, we fabricate existence and lessen its meaning. We pay allegiance to myths and gods, we accept a shrunken view of history. But in history are veins of master substance, as it were, that can lead us back to ourselves in a new way.

The style of this book is not to set out, like file cabinets, a precise robot-march of facts which ultimately spell out a hypothesis. I rather take you along on my own adventure of discovery, because I want you to see and feel something, not merely make notes in the machine-part of the mind.

These days, the terms cult, secret society, and religion are all so loaded that their meanings are melting down. I use cult and secret society to mean: organized groups which harbor a hidden agenda whose purpose is to dominate and control others. This agenda doesn't rule out the existence of a merry public face. In fact, a cult may be doing good in one sphere while destroying life and limb on another front.

In this book, religion means a group which has a hierarchical power structure leading up to an invisible God. Naturally the God favors the religion which worships Him. Otherwise, why bother? Most religions are secret societies. They have an agenda which involves controlling their devotees, all their charity-work notwithstanding.

Historically, people seek out secret societies and religions and join them to gain freedom from pain and turmoil. People also join because they are forced to. For example, the country they live in leaves no choice. Such was the case in medieval Europe, where the Roman Catholic Church held the wand of dominance. But there is another factor. The popular term for it these days is mind control. It used to be brainwashing, hypnotism. I will discuss that aspect at length, in an unusual way.
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#49
Your definitions are good ones.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#50
"A recent biographer claimed that the spook and novelist, Anthony Burgess, based A Clockwork Orange on real behaviour modification programmes carried out in secret American military experiments, that Burgess had learned of through his intelligence connections."

I was under the impression that "A Clockwork Orange" was based upon London's Tavistock [correction brought to my attention, courtesy of Jan Klimkowski. TM] Institute, a behavioral and/or psy-ops center, in line with MKUltra's centers at UCLA, Harvard, and MIT.
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) Irish writer.
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