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A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism..
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Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:

http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry...9_03-07_00


Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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R.K. Locke Wrote:Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:

http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry...9_03-07_00


Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.

That's a hell of a good interview, with lots of great information. Their film is well worth the watch too! Had OKC been solved, the first WTC bombing wouldn't have happened and had that not happened or been solved, 911 would not have happened. Sadly, because for most of society in the USA 911 is still unsolved [if the official story not sitting comfortably], what they have planned next will likely succeed to. They are using a ratchet mechanism...ratcheting up to a full-blown fascist police state. Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Quote:Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!

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"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:They are using a ratchet mechanism...ratcheting up to a full-blown fascist police state.

I can attest to that. I call it frog boiling (er, as of about 2minutes ago...):
[size=12]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...15731.html - at the whim of politicians, and whilst sidelining the judiciary. The law is good - that's why they're being left standing.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/...re-cameras - FBI planes that flew over police protests had sophisticated surveillance cameras. In Durham, the police have a facial recognition database (and doubtless elsewhere too); drip drip drip.

Theresa May said "If you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to fear", but that's bullshit - they make it up as part of a grand strategy to elevate themselves to 'hero' status, and to justify the expense and the intrusions/ human rights pisstakes, and to pull the wool over ppl's eyes whilst afearing them for purpose.



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Martin Luther King - "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
Albert Camus - "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion".
Douglas MacArthur — "Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons."
Albert Camus - "Nothing is more despicable than respect based on fear."
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
R.K. Locke Wrote:Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:

http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry...9_03-07_00


Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.

That's a hell of a good interview, with lots of great information.

Seconded. It's a richly rewarding listen.

God help America.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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#26
Fy that audio won't play more than a minute or so before locking up.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!

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I totally agree with this. It's incredible to me that there are JFK researchers out there who, for example, take no interest in 9/11, or actually believe the government's version of events. It's a bizarre situation. They will spend hours debating "Oswald in the doorway" but appear to have nothing worthwhile to say about current geopolitics. How do you explain something like that?
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Fy that audio won't play more than a minute or so before locking up.


I downloaded it and listened on my iPod. Worked fine that way. ::thumbsup::
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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I totally agree with this. It's incredible to me that there are JFK researchers out there who, for example, take no interest in 9/11, or actually believe the government's version of events. It's a bizarre situation. They will spend hours debating "Oswald in the doorway" but appear to have nothing worthwhile to say about current geopolitics. How do you explain something like that?


Yes, there are many who find it only an intellectual game to be solved and like solving it and debating the solutions. They divorce themselves from the historical and current reality of the consequences, and refuse too often to look at the totality of the event and worse, the long, long connected string of events that in its modern iteration goes from WW2 to tomorrow and beyond. For some it is a naivete about history; for others it is a blindness to where the USA [and the World] 'are' today and how our freedoms and rights, rule of law, system of government, democracy have been methodically weakened to where today there is nothing left but a propaganda figleaf. Yes, solving this or that deep political event is interesting in and of itself - and I enjoy that challenge myself; but to not put it into context of what it did to not only the immediate target[s] is really missing the point. No assassination nor 'terror action' was just to kill a person or blow up a building and those in it. History shows clearly such actions are more to wrestle control from the People to those who were behind these actions. I think that America 'died' quite a lot on 11/22/63 along with JFK; and died some more with OKC, WTC-first false flag, 911, Antrax unPatriot Act, NDAA, and the hundreds of other covert and overt deep political actions against us I could mention. OK, so there more than one shooter at Dallas, and Oswald was not one of them, in fact there were two Oswalds and both were in the intel world of special operations....what does that say about our polity?! Over two million died in Vietnam; the elected President was assassinated, and the assassination covered-up by organs of the State; the MIC+ grew much stronger; COG grew stronger; they were emboldened to then kill MLK and RFK [and hundreds of others - thousands in fact]! Watergate, Iran-Contra, OKC, WTC-first time, 911, 7-7, government overthrows, black ops, and aggressive wars up the yazoo [don't forget Grenada was about to invade and destroy the USA!] - and look what we have - a police state, permanent wars, 100% electronic surveillance, no freedoms, no economy (unemployment rate is now 33-35% and most are struggling to survive), rich getting richer and everyone else sinking, propaganda for 'media', lies from the government, voting for pre-selected puppets, controlled congress and supreme court, puppet presidents, unfair judicial system, Gestapo-like police and intelligence agencies, military ready to attack the public at home as well as endlessly attacking non-aggressive nations abroad. There is a direct connection between the 'details' of (pick any Deep Political Event you like) and where we are now. Please wake up. Please take action. Yes, it does potentially put one at slight risk - but you and we are all now deeply at risk already!...and in numbers there is some safety and strength. If you can see the truth, but do nothing about it other than only play intellectual games with it, or leave it for 'others' to do something about...you have already given up your participation in and franchise in democracy - and are only a serf. Yes, one has to start by analyzing the 'details', but while you were examining the 'trees' the 'forest' has burnt down. If you're not part of the solution, you're sadly still part of the problem - even if passively. Remember the Niemoller (1892-1984) statement,

Quote:"In Germany they first came for the Socialists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Socialist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

THEY are already 'coming' for us all now.....think, analyze, speak, but ACT...before it is too late! (and what I say applies in most all countries, not just the USA where it is so very obvious).
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#30
Nicely said, Pete.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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