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JFK Jr
#51
Thanks Adele. I found the Hankey video yesterday too and wached it. It is one theory of the crash. I recall also reading, several years ago now, that more than one person saw what appeared to be an explosion in the sky where he would have been, just over the Vineyard. So that is yet another explantion. In the Hankey video a name is just shown for an instant: Josh. I did not get the last name of the purported flight instructer.
I will try to go back when I am here for sometime and find it, then google it. If there was a missing FI you'd think someone would know, unless the family is afraid. Hankey was told that he always flies with a flight instructor and that he had told people he planned to do so this time. The Hankey vidoeo has a lot of useful information in it but he fucks up by saying W killed JFK. There is zero proof of that.

The Bush stuff detracts greatly from the rest of the film.
Dawn
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#52
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Thanks Adele. I found the Hankey video yesterday too and wached it. It is one theory of the crash. I recall also reading, several years ago now, that more than one person saw what appeared to be an explosion in the sky where he would have been, just over the Vineyard. So that is yet another explantion. In the Hankey video a name is just shown for an instant: Josh. I did not get the last name of the purported flight instructer.
I will try to go back when I am here for sometime and find it, then google it. If there was a missing FI you'd think someone would know, unless the family is afraid. Hankey was told that he always flies with a flight instructor and that he had told people he planned to do so this time. The Hankey vidoeo has a lot of useful information in it but he fucks up by saying W killed JFK. There is zero proof of that.

The Bush stuff detracts greatly from the rest of the film.
Dawn

I can't remember the name now, but I did do a search hoping to find the family members and did find someone in California with the same last name (it was very unusual). I told Hankey about it but he was reluctant to investigate further. But it was important that he found out that a flight instructor was missing at that airport in New Jersey.

I'll look for that video and see if I can make out the name.

Hankey's hypothesis of the programmed suicidal flight instructor was a bit of a stretch, but it is still within the realm of possibility with hypnotic suggestion, etc. However, a simpler explanation would appear to be that the searchers removed his body so that John Jr. could be cited with a pilotting error if his body were to be found without an instructor with him. That may also explain why the seat for the flight instructor had to be removed so that it would appear that it was dislodged by the impact.

I think all this was done to protect the guilty of the murders of John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy because John Jr. would have found them.

Adele
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#53
Dawn,

I just watched the JFK Jr video on You Tube - all 11 parts. I found the name of the missing flight instructor that is given. It is Josh Kallenburg, a name I considered rare because when I did a search for it, I found only one such entity at that time.

I might be mistaken, but the You Tube version seemed to have some more details than I remember from my disc version. But then again, that was a long time ago.

I had a new thought about the fuel line switch being in the OFF position. That is what led Hankey to consider a programmed suicidal flight instructor taking over the controls of the plane and plunging it into the sea, but suppose the plane had exploded from a bomb while still in the air then all the parts would have scattered and fallen into the sea, explaining the wide displacement of the different parts of the plane. When the flight instructor's body and chair were removed, the fuel line switch could have been set to OFF to make it look like a pilot's useless motion to try control the plane. Even though Hankey stated there was no evidence of an explosion found by the National Transportation Safety Board, it would seem that no evidence of an explosion would have to be claimed if the blame was to be placed on John's pilot error.

This is another lesson on how information can be obliteratd, modified, denied so that the public is not given the truth. And like the botched Zapruder film and the JFK autopsy, this shows the botched search and investigation to deny the truth, because the truth has to be hidden by the powerful guilty ones for their awful purposes.

Adele
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#54
Dawn,

Thanks to you, I located the name of the missing flight instructor which Hankey cited. I also have been rethinking about what I had said about the fuel gauge being in the OFF position.
It occurred to me that I recalled from a long time ago on the JFKresearch forum that someone had thought the pressure bomb had been placed in the rear compartment of the plane where the baggage would be stored. This could have broken off the rear part of the plane causing the remaining front part of the plane to tip forward from its horizontal position in the air (due to the weight of the engine, four passengers, and wings) and fall to the sea nose first. Perhaps to slow down the rate of descent, the pilot, John or Flight Instructor, reached for the fuel gauge to cut off fuel to the motor and thereby try to soften the impact as much as possible (?) This could explain why the fuel gauge was in the OFF position.

I remember reading that the propellers of the plane had been bent in such a way that they may have been rotating when the impact occurred. They could still have been rotating more slowly if the motor had stopped because of inertia. After all, there were only a very few seconds between the bomb's explosion and the impact from the descent.

Just some more thoughts.

Adele
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#55
Adele Edisen Wrote:Dawn,

I just watched the JFK Jr video on You Tube - all 11 parts. I found the name of the missing flight instructor that is given. It is Josh Kallenburg, a name I considered rare because when I did a search for it, I found only one such entity at that time.

I might be mistaken, but the You Tube version seemed to have some more details than I remember from my disc version. But then again, that was a long time ago.

I had a new thought about the fuel line switch being in the OFF position. That is what led Hankey to consider a programmed suicidal flight instructor taking over the controls of the plane and plunging it into the sea, but suppose the plane had exploded from a bomb while still in the air then all the parts would have scattered and fallen into the sea, explaining the wide displacement of the different parts of the plane. When the flight instructor's body and chair were removed, the fuel line switch could have been set to OFF to make it look like a pilot's useless motion to try control the plane. Even though Hankey stated there was no evidence of an explosion found by the National Transportation Safety Board, it would seem that no evidence of an explosion would have to be claimed if the blame was to be placed on John's pilot error.

This is another lesson on how information can be obliteratd, modified, denied so that the public is not given the truth. And like the botched Zapruder film and the JFK autopsy, this shows the botched search and investigation to deny the truth, because the truth has to be hidden by the powerful guilty ones for their awful purposes.

Adele

Well if there was a flight instructor it cannot have been Josh Kallenburg as there are you tube videos of him as late as 2011 online.

I would not trust the NTSB on any crash. Think back to Dorothy Hunt's murder 12/8/72 on United Airlines, along with CBS's Michelle Clark. (And many others) That was a total coverup.

That is another nail for Hankey to have named a person easily found to be alive as the FI on the doomed JFK Jr. plane. He also gets the cousin Carole Radizwill's name totally wrong, calling her "Ratawell"

Dawn
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