Another mass shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin....details fuzzy

[Dawn Meredith]

Support Sirius the Documentary Movie! It's what the unawakened people need to understand whats happening, since Illuminati are trying to confuse peoples minds with disinformation and propaganda. They use Hollywood as a shield !

Ed, I realize all things are connected and you wish others to grok what you have groked. But this is just posted to provoke others at this forum. Enough said.

Lauren, are you tied in with those folks doing the deep scientific and deep black research into mind-reading of intent by remote scan? See quote below from Freeman's "Societies of Brains", as one example, let alone the inferences behind Aurora's shooting.

I am quite certain that I am not the only one here at Deep Politics Forum acting as a provocateur.

If provocation is aimed solely at getting "the other" to think more clearly, or understand how a homo sapiens sapiens actually does think, I plead guilty.

But the posts I make are simply akin to a group of people sitting around a very large globe-wide table trying to solve a gigantic jigsaw puzzle. Some pieces fit; some pieces seem to fit; some pieces are made to fit misleadingly; some pieces don't fit; some pieces are thrown on the floor because they are made by a puzzle-printer distantly involved in the degradation of their great-great-grandfather once removed. As the puzzle seems to come together; seem people see a picture of idyllic pastoral splendor like a Monet scene in the French countryside, and others see something more akin to a rejected attempt by Hieronymous Bosch.

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Some researchers propose that brains can be mapped into minds by means of brain images from PET scans, so scientists can make "truth tables" and detect whether people are lying to themselves or to observers, when they when their verbal outputs disagree with their brain images. Neuro-ethicists and neurologists should rethink this lie detector approach.

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See also its follow-up:
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"Acting as a provocateur"?

[Ed Jewett]

Monday, August 6, 2012

Do All These Recent Shooters Have a Common Denominator ?

Why are all these cases connected?

From Legitgov.org

Fort Hood soldier ordered to erase video of shootings --In US civilian courts, destruction of evidence can be a crime. 15 Oct 2010 A US soldier who captured a deadly 2009 rampage at Fort Hood with his cell phone camera testified Friday that he was ordered to erase the video by his commanders. The video could have provided key evidence at the trial of Major Nidal Hasan, a US Army psychiatrist who faces 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder. Lead defense attorney John Galligan asked witness Private Lance Aviles if he had taken a video of the shooting with his cell phone and if he deleted the footage at the instruction of his superiors. "Yes, sir," Aviles replied.
Obama administration subpoenaed in Fort Hood probe 19 Apr 2010 Two U.S. lawmakers subpoenaed the Obama administration on Monday for information sought in a congressional probe of last year's shooting rampage [false flag] at Fort Hood, Texas, that left 13 soldiers dead and an Army psychiatrist charged with murder. Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, an independent [sociopath], and Susan Collins, the panel's top Republican, took the action after the departments of Justice and Defense failed to provide the materials by Monday's deadline.

'Three people are involved. That, by definition, means it is a conspiracy.'

• Imam Tied to Fort Hood Shooter "Killed" in Yemen Raid
  
• Army refuses to identify Hasan prosecutors, chases away journalists
  
• Who (actually) shot Maj. Hasan?
  
  
• WaPo: Hasan did not formally ask to leave military, Army official says --Any formal request... to separate early would have been submitted to the Department of the Army.
  
• NYT: Major Hasan's behavior in the months and weeks leading up to the shooting bespeaks a troubled man full of contradictions.He lived frugally in a run-down apartment, yet spent more than $1,100 on the pistol the authorities said he used in the shootings.
  
• CNN: Over one hundred shots were fired in the attack. (Logic dictates that 'over one hundred shots' were not fired by a single individual, surrounded by military personnel and special police forces.)
  
• CNN: FBI was investigating Major Nidal Hasan six months ago.
  
• Curiouser and Curiouser: -Video surfaces of alleged shooter, Major Nidal Hasan, attending Homeland Security Task Force conference --Major Hasan's name appears on page 29 of The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute's 'Thinking AnewSecurity Priorities for the Next Administration' --Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force - April 2008 - January 2009. The report is dated 19 May 2009.
  
• Numerous media accounts: Major Hasan's neighbors, medical trainers, colleagues, friends, cousin, uncle, grandfather-- even the store owner to where he bought his food -- all heap praise on Major Hasan's temperament. This appears to be psy-ops, six ways to Sunday. --LRP
  
• The alleged shooter received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001 and is a graduate of Virginia Tech. Early on Thursday, he showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store's manager. "He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal," she said, "nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary."
  

The Aledged Aurora, Colorado Batman Shooter - James Holmes

From Rense.com http://rense.com/general95/auroraconspt.html

1. James Holmes had no job, was earning unemployment but was able to purchase close to 10k in weapons, explosives, and tactical equipment, and this all happened within 2 months. The chances that Holmes could afford to finance this on his own is highly unlikely. Someone helped finance this attack, follow the money and we will find the masterminds.

2. The testimony of 2 key eye witnesses totally contradicts the official story of there being one shooter, with no accomplice in the attack. One witness testified that the tear gas canisters came from both sides of the theatre, a second witness testified that before the movie began he saw someone sit down in the front row, and shortly after sitting down his phone rang and instead of walking into the main lobby to take the call, he walked over to the emergency exit to the right side of the theatre opened the door and looked to be signaling someone outside the theatre. Shortly after the shooter made entrance through the emergency exit and commenced his attack.

3. Evidence photos - Evidence photos have surfaced of a gas mask outside of the emergency exit of theatre 8, police reported that when they arrested the shooter in the white Hyundai outside of theatre 9 he was wearing a gas mask, that would make 2 gas masks that were recovered. Also photos show the AR-15 propped up against the wall opposite of the fire exit door of theatre 9, police radio communications reported that night that the rifle was found inside the theatre, and even if the the AR-15 was discarded outside the theatre do you think the gunman was going to take the time to set the weapon down ? The Hyundai - why was the window missing? I thought he put up no resistance as he was being taken into custody ?

4. Radio communications from the night of the attack -

*First report of suspects was two men fleeing the theatres both wearing back packs, what happened to these two suspects??

*Reports of three people dragging an unknown individual into a non descript vehicle and speeding off

*the majority of injured and witnesses were not given access to ambulances, they were to be transported by other vehicles to the high school. WHY?

* Police radio that one of the shooters may be wearing blue and plaid shirt

*Magazine and AR-15 dropped in theatre

5. Pool of eye witnesses - It was reported that the theatre had over 300 people in it, there have been less than 10 eye witnesses with a only a few taking most of the spotlight ie. Jennifer Seeger. The KEY eye witnesses seem to have very well rehearsed testimony but have not given much sense to whether there testimony is actually plausible - Jennifer Seeger has consistently given a description of the shooter, that miraculously matches James Holmes to a T, even though she has told reporters that she was face down in the aisle, and surrounded by tear gas/gas obstructing her view. Seeger also described the gas canisters down to the colour, personally I believe this was an impossibility in that scenario. She also mentioned that hot shell casings were hitting her in the forehead as the gunman was spraying the theatre, how is this possible? she was on her front was she not? Another point that should be noted is that for a event that involved 300 people, there has been a surprisingly low amount of postings on youtube, facebook, and Twitter. No one who was involved in this event is talking about it, beyond that small group of witnesses that have been talking to national media outlets.

6. Holmes booby trapped apartment - How are we to believe that a 24 yr old, former jewish camp counselor, gaming nerd, science rock star, Neuroscience PHD had the skill set to set up a system of explosive devices and booby traps that would have the FBI bewildered for almost two days?? How are we to believe that ?? There is no way this maze of death was the work of one neuroscience student. It's BS.

7. Rumours of Holmes's Neuroscience program being funded by DARPA - Neursoscience + DARPA + MKULTRA the perfect marriage

8. Anti-gun agenda - Didn't anyone notice how quick public officials were ready to talk to the media about antigun legislation ? Bloomberg publically called out Obama and Romney to do something about the lack of gun control in the US, excellent timing seeing as the UN has legislation on the table to ban small arms globally.

9. The fact that Holmes allegedly bought the guns legally, to me this is the biggest smoking gun that this attack is being used as sounding board for the anti gun/disarmament agenda, think about it...most intelligent people who were planning an attack like this would do everything they could to stay off of the radar, buying the guns legally doesn't allow one to do that. What they are trying to do is demonize the legal gun owner, saying hey Holmes wasn't a criminal he was a normal guy who went crazy, and due to his ability to legally buy these firearms he was able to pull off these attacks.

10. The roomates - The initial reports were than Holmes was living with two other people, but once people started asking who these roommates were, the story had changed to no roommates that he lived by himself. The roommate story had to change because everyone was asking the same thing, if Holmes had roommates where are they ? Are they in the apartment with all of those explosive materials? It makes no sense!!! I don't think there were any explosives in Holmes residence, I think that they were buying time to construct this BS story.

and last but not least...

***Most important to note about James Holmes, however, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system. Robert Holmes, whose "blueblood" family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.

Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.

More on this angle here.

Wade Michael Page - The Aledged Milwaukee, Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooter

From Cryptogon

Page Served in U.S. Army Psychological Operations Unit
Via: CBS News:
CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.

Wade Michael Page
Via: CBS:
The suspect in a shooting that left six people dead at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee on Sunday has been identified as Wade Michael Page.
Authorities confirmed to CBS News on Monday that Page was the suspect in the shooting. He was killed outside the temple in a shootout with police officers after the rampage that left terrified congregants hiding in closets and others texting friends outside for help.
Multiple sources tell CBS News that Page was a former member of the U.S. military, but he was no longer serving actively. It was not immediately clear under what circumstances Page left the military.
Officials had previously described the suspect as a heavy-set, 40-year-old Caucasian with numerous tattoos.
Sources tell CBS News some unspecified evidence suggests race or ethnicity may have played a role in the violence, but no links to extremist groups have been confirmed.
Local police called the attack an act of domestic terrorism, but other sources tell CBS News correspondent Bon Orr it may be more accurate to refer to "an investigation into a possible hate crime."
Neither the local nor the federal sources provided further details or suggested a possible motive, including whether the suspect specifically targeted the Sikh temple.
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CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy reports Page is only believed to have lived at the residence for two weeks, according to neighbors.

Let's not forget our wonderful politicians have the UN Arms Treaty to push on the American People. They never let a crisis go to waste.

Things just don't add up folks....too many coincidences and I don't believe in coincidences.

Leave a comment and let me know what you think.

Posted by NewAmericaNow at 9:56 AM

Labels: fort hood Texas shooter batman shooter sikh temple shooter aurora Colorado Milwaukee Wisconsin Mind Control conspiracy UN arms treaty

[Peter Lemkin]

DHS Crushed This Analyst for Warning About Far-Right Terror
12th August 2012
DHS Crushed This Analyst for Warning About Far Right TerrorBy Spencer Ackerman

Wired Danger Room, August 7, 2012

Daryl Johnson had a sinking feeling when he started seeing TV reports on Sunday about a shooting in a Wisconsin temple. "I told my wife, This is likely a hate crime perpetrated by a white supremacist who may have had military experience,'" Johnson recalls.

It was anything but a lucky guess on Johnson's part. He spent 15 years studying domestic terrorist groups particularly white supremacists and neo-Nazis as a government counterterrorism analyst, the last six of them at the Department of Homeland Security. There, he even homebrewed his own database on far-right extremist groups on an Oracle platform, allowing his analysts to compile and sift reporting in the media and other law-enforcement agencies on radical and potentially violent groups.

But Johnson's career took an unexpected turn in 2009, when an analysis he wrote on the rise of "Right-Wing Extremism (.pdf) sparked a political controversy. Under pressure from conservatives, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) repudiated Johnson's paper an especially bitter pill for him to swallow now that Wade Michael Page, a suspected white supremacist, killed at least six people at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. For Johnson, the shooting was a reminder that the government's counterterrorism efforts are almost exclusively focused on al-Qaida, even as non-Islamist groups threaten Americans domestically.

"DHS is scoffing at the mission of doing domestic counterterrorism, as is Congress," Johnson tells Danger Room. "There've been no hearings about the rising white supremacist threat, but there's been a long list of attacks over the last few years. But they still hold hearings about Muslim extremism. It's out of balance." But even if that balance was reset, he concedes, that doesn't necessarily mean the feds could have found Page before Sunday's rampage.

Johnson left DHS in April 2010 after "they dissolved my team," he says. Had he still been at DHS, he says he would have published an analysis calling attention to a growing number of attacks on mosques, which he thinks could serve as a "warning" to Sikh communities that are often mistaken for Muslim ones. But finding so-called "lone wolf" terrorists like Page is a challenge no matter their motivations, since they operate outside established extremist cells and often don't have criminal records, making it difficult for law enforcement or homeland security officials to spot them.

Now a security consultant in the Washington D.C. area, Johnson used to work for DHS' analysis shop, the Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A). He supervised a team of six analysts studying what he calls "domestic non-Islamic extremism." It's a telling term: the DHS employed as many as 40 analysts who looked at al-Qaida and other jihadist groups' inroads into the homeland.

Johnson ran everything else. One person on his team worked on the threat from anarchists; another, the threat from animal-rights extremists. Still others looked at anti-abortion radicalism, white supremacy and radical environmentalism. They were supplemented by analysts at the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; but outnumbered by the literally thousands of analysts, operatives and other counterterrorism officials throughout the government who focus on jihadism. "Salaries were our major budget item," he recalls.

Then, in April 2009, Johnson warned that the election of the first African-American president, combined with recession-era economic anxieties, could fuel a rise in far-right violence.. "DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities," he wrote.

And so began a brief media firestorm. Conservative writers feared that the DHS was demonizing even, potentially, criminalizing mainstream right-wing speech."It's no small coincidence that [Secretary Janet] Napolitano's agency disseminated the assessment just a week before the nationwide April 15 Tax Day Tea Party protests," pundit Michelle Malkin speculated in the Washington Times. Others objected that Johnson's report unfairly stigmatized veterans.

It surprised Johnson. An Eagle Scout leader from northern Virginia in his early 40s, Johnson became interested in counterterrorism in his teens, after an Arkansas standoff between federal authorities and a millenarian group called The Covenant The Sword And The Arm of The Lord, which stockpiled weapons and explosives to bring about Armageddon. "I was always fascinated with why people use religion to justify violence and believe the world was ending and had a role to play in hastening that end," Johnson said.

Stung, DHS responded by cutting "the number of personnel studying domestic terrorism unrelated to Islam, canceled numerous state and local law enforcement briefings, and held up dissemination of nearly a dozen reports on extremist groups," the Washington Post reported in June 2009.

According to Johnson, his former team now consists of a single analyst tasked with tracking all domestic non-Islamic extremism. His database has been shuttered.

Asked for comment, DHS disputed Johnson's claim that it gives non-Islamic extremism short shrift.

"The Department of Homeland Security protects our country from all threats, whether foreign or homegrown, and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence," spokesman Matt Chandler told Danger Room. "we face a threat environment where violent extremism is neither constrained by international borders, nor limited to any single ideology. This is not a phenomenon restricted solely to any one particular community and our efforts to counter violent extremism (CVE) are applicable to all ideologically motivated violence. DHS continues to work with its state, local, tribal, territorial and private partners to prevent and protect against potential threats to the United States by focusing on preventing violence that is motivated by extreme ideological beliefs."

Johnson, who has written a forthcoming book about far-right extremist groups, concedes that the definition of "right-wing" in his product was imprecise. In retrospect, he says he should have clarified that his focus was on "violent" right-wing organizations, like white supremacists, neo-Nazis and so-called Sovereign Citizens who believe the U.S. government is an illegitimate, tyrannical enterprise. Much like mainstream Muslims denounce terrorism and object to over-broad analysis portraying Islam as an incubator of extremism, so too do mainstream conservatives denounce neo-Nazis and white supremacists and dispute that those groups are authentically right-wing.

Nor does he think DHS should ignore Islamic extremism. "It just needs to be more balanced," Johnson says. New York congressman "Peter King has held three hearings in the past year on Muslim extremism," he says, referring to the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, "but he's yet to have a single hearing on right-wing extremism when there's been a lot more activity."

Indeed, since Johnson released his ill-fated report, the Wichita, Kansas, abortion doctor George Tiller was assassinated; a security guard was killed when a gunman with neo-Nazi ties went on a shooting spree at the U.S. Holocaust Museum; the FBI arrested members of a Florida neo-Nazi outfit tied to drug dealing and motorcycle gangs; a man was charged with attempting to detonate a weapon of mass destruction at a Spokane, Washington march commemorating Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday; and several mosques around the country have been vandalized or attacked including a Missouri mosque that burned to the ground on Monday, which had been attacked before.

As Salon recounts, the FBI has been warning for years that far-right racialist organizations might be interested in suicide terrorism. Peter Bergen, a longtime chronicler of al-Qaida, wrote on Tuesday that far-right domestic terrorism rivals and might eclipse the threat of homegrown jihadism.

In a press conference on Monday, FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Teresa Carlson acknowledged that Page, the perpetrator of the Sikh temple assault, "had contact with law enforcement in the past," but that contact didn't rise to the level of sparking an active investigation. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks right-wing extremist groups, has apparently had Page on its radar for some time.

But Johnson doesn't contend that more resources would necessarily have stopped Page from attacking the Sikh temple. Lone-wolf terrorists are hard to spot. What the government should do instead is broaden its counterterrorism focus beyond just jihadis. "It needs to be more balanced," Johnson says. "It's frustrating to see these types of incidents ongoing."

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/08/dhs/all/

[Peter Lemkin]

Neo-Nazis Are Using the Army as a Training Camp
Reuters

John Hudson Aug 21, 2012

White supremacists aren't the type of people you want to train to be unstoppable fighting machines, but that doesn't mean they're not signing up for the call of duty. In a disturbing Reuters investigation, Daniel Trotta uncovers the campaign by neo-Nazis and certain skinhead groups to encourage enlistment in the Army and Marine Corps so members can learn the skills to overthrow the government, or in neo-Nazi speak, the Zionist Occupation Government. "They call it 'rahowa' - short for racial holy war - and they are preparing for it by joining the ranks of ... the U.S. military," writes Trotta. "Get in, get trained and get out to brace for the coming race war."

The recruiting practice is gaining scrutiny in light of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting by gunman Wade Michael Page, a former U.S. Army soldier and neo-Nazi musician. As CNN reported last week, Page's base, Fort Bragg, "was home to a small number of white supremacists including three soldiers later convicted in the murder of an African-American couple." Reuters caught up with Marine T.J. Leydon, who served from 1988 to 1991 while openly promoting neo-Nazi causes:

"I went into the Marine Corps for one specific reason: I would learn how shoot," Leyden told Reuters. "I also learned how to use C-4 (explosives), blow things up. I took all my military skills and said I could use these to train other people," said Leyden, 46, who has since renounced the white power movement and is a consultant for the anti-Nazi Simon Wiesenthal Center.

As a result of this recruiting technique, the U.S. Defense Department is stepping up its efforts to clampdown on violent racists within the military. Sometimes that means making some difficult calls when it comes to screening out applicants at recruiting centers, as Sergeant Aaron Iskenderian tells the news agency:

Iskenderian cited the example of a young man who came in recently with a tattoo of the Confederate flag."We're in the South here. It's considered Southern heritage. It's on the General Lee," Iskenderian said, referring to the car from the television show "The Dukes of Hazzard."

"Is it racist? I asked him, 'What does it mean to you?' and he said, 'Southern pride.'"

The potential recruit also told Iskenderian he had a black girlfriend. Iskenderian sent the issue up the chain of command, and the young man was rejected.

Apparently, once a soldier signs on, it can be extremely difficult to remove the extremists, notes Carter F. Smith, a former military investigator. "They are some of the most disciplined soldiers we have," he said. "They really want to learn to shoot those weapons."