A 9/11 'I witness' remembers his lines
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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
04-11-2012, 07:18 AM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012, 07:40 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
and then there is this [ahem!] little anomaly to be explained by a pancake theory.....or any part of the 'official bullshit theory of 911'
One could go on for hours with what is wrong with this photo [its real] and the collapse [and disappearance of this huge block of the top of the building]. Jack White and I did a huge thread on this on the 'other Swamp Forum', but all of my posts were removed...I don't know what it is like now with mine removed and not up to re-doing the physics just now.....but suffice it to say, that top part is now separate and has its own torque motion [and nothing to stop it from moving in the direction of its torque - it should have fallen as a complete chunk to the side of the building after spinning while falling...but film footage clearly shows it self-disintegrates from the bottom up; while the main part of the building self-disintegrates from the top down..... There are professional papers by physicists on this and it defies the laws of physics - unless one enters into the equation extra energy - a lot of it - as in EXPLOSIVE devices and CUTTING charges!!!!! We've been lied to and our country stolen from us, our rights, Constitution and freedoms [not to mention most of our money and over one million lives in the Middle East!] all taken away by this treasonous sham of a false-flag operation. It was a good magic show...but it WAS a MAGIC show...and like all magic shows...what you think you SEE is NOT what really happened!
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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Physics doesn't lie: tilting south tower gives away demolition of Trade Center
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Craig McKee ♦ November 26, 2010 ♦
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance Albert Einstein
By Craig McKee
People who believe in the official government theory of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 must find the laws of physics to be a real pain in the neck. They must hate it when these silly laws keep showing how their neat story of Islamic terrorism simply isn't possible.
There are so many examples: the tiny hole in the Pentagon and lack of wreckage outside; the scattering of debris from Flight 93 over an area of several miles and virtually no wreckage at the crash scene; molten steel under the three World Trade Center buildings that collapsed; the fact that fire was simply not hot enough to have brought down both towers; and that they couldn't have fallen so quickly without explosives. And those are just the big ones.
There's another aspect to the collapse of the twin towers that doesn't get as much attention but that is huge when it comes to proving the fiction of the official theory.
When the South Tower started to collapse at 9:59 a.m., just 56 minutes after it was hit, the top of the building began to tip over (as you can clearly see in the photo above). And, according to Sir Isaac Newton's law of the conservation of momentum, it should have kept tipping over. There was nothing that could have stopped the momentum of this rotation. Except explosives.
The only way we didn't have the top 34-floor section lying in a heap beside the tower is that it fell apart or more likely blew apart at the beginning of the collapse. The reason we've let this fact slip by most of us is that the top of the building is quickly disappears amid all the smoke and debris. We never see it again.
But here's the most important point: Newton wouldn't be able to reconcile this tilting top with the symmetrical collapse that followed. With the top tilting at approximately 23 degrees, how could it be exerting a uniform, symmetrical pressure on the floors below? In fact, how could it exert any force at all? And how could all of the building's 47 core columns fail uniformly given that the collapse wasn't symmetrical when it started.
Newton wouldn't have bought it.
David Ray Griffin addresses this in his excellent essay, "The destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the official account can't be true" (You can find it in The Hidden History of 9-11, edited by Paul Zarembka. The tilting tower is discussed on page 91.) Richard Gage also analyses the collapse of the WTC, and deals with the south tower conundrum, in the film 9/11 Blueprint for Truth.
No matter which aspect of the towers' collapse you look at, the conclusion has to be the same. Planes didn't knock the buildings over, fire couldn't have heated enough of the steel to cause a uniform collapse, and the so-called "pancake theory" can't explain how the building and most of its contents were literally pulverized into a fine dust.
And more than anything else, there's no way the pancake theory can explain the buildings coming down at near free fall speed. Any experts I've read on the subject have said that as the top of the building crushed each floor, the collapse would have slowed down. That's another of those laws of physics. As it is, the buildings collapsed as if there was almost no resistance at all.
There's only one way that could have happened. Explosives. And lots of them.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
ACE Elevator was a participant or observer in the following events:
8:47 a.m.-10:28 a.m. September 11, 2001: Hundreds Die in WTC Elevators, as Elevator Mechanics Flee [IMG]file:///C:\Users\Phil\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.gif[/IMG] During the 9/11 catastrophe, around 200 people die in the WTC's elevators without getting help from elevator mechanics, according to an in-depth study later performed by USA Today. Some of the victims are burned by the initial explosion, some die as the elevator cars plummet when their cables are severed, and some are stuck and perish in the collapse. USA Today will say it "could not locate any professional rescues of people stuck in elevators. The Fire Department of New York and the Port Authority also could not cite successful rescues." After the North Tower is hit, most of the WTC's 83 elevator mechanics gather in the lobby of the South Tower, but when the second plane hits, they evacuate. In contrast, a passing elevator mechanic from another company runs into the WTC and dies trying to free trapped passengers. USA Today will comment: "When the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993, Otis Elevator's mechanics led the rescue of 500 people trapped in elevators. Some mechanics were dropped onto the roofs of the Twin Towers by helicopter. Others, carrying 50-pound oxygen tanks on their backs, climbed through smoke to machine rooms high in the towers. On Sept. 11, the elevator mechanicsmany of the same men involved in the rescues in 1993left the buildings after the second jet struck, nearly an hour before the first building collapsed." Although ACE Elevator, the local company which won the WTC contract from Otis in 1994, will say it was acting in accordance with procedure, USA Today will note: "The departure of elevator mechanics from a disaster site is unusual. The industry takes pride in rescues. In the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, elevator mechanics worked closely with the firefighters making rescues." Robert Caporale, editor of Elevator World will say, "Nobody knows the insides of a high-rise like an elevator mechanic. They act as guides for firefighters, in addition to working on elevators." The Port Authority will also say that their departure was in conflict with the emergency plan. "There was no situation in which the mechanics were advised or instructed to leave on their own." [USA Today, 12/19/2001; USA Today, 9/4/2002] Entity Tags: World Trade Center, ACE Elevator, New York Port Authority, Robert Caporale Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline
Bankrupt June 23, 2006 911Experiments_com/AceElevator/AceElevatorBankruptcy.pdf ACE's business was, and, to the extent that it still has a business, is, the
construction, modernization, maintenance and repair of elevators in the New York City
area.7 ACE built the elevator systems in the World Trade Center and until September 11,
2001 had been their sole servicer, from which it derived 90 percent of its revenue.8
Unable to make up enough of that income from other sources, ACE filed under chapter
11 on December 21, 2004. Company in Florida http://www.aceelevatorcompany.com/ http://www.ace-elevatorco.com/
ACE Elevator was a participant or observer in the following events:
8:47 a.m.-10:28 a.m. September 11, 2001: Hundreds Die in WTC Elevators, as Elevator Mechanics Flee [IMG]file:///C:\Users\Phil\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.gif[/IMG] During the 9/11 catastrophe, around 200 people die in the WTC's elevators without getting help from elevator mechanics, according to an in-depth study later performed by USA Today. Some of the victims are burned by the initial explosion, some die as the elevator cars plummet when their cables are severed, and some are stuck and perish in the collapse. USA Today will say it "could not locate any professional rescues of people stuck in elevators. The Fire Department of New York and the Port Authority also could not cite successful rescues." After the North Tower is hit, most of the WTC's 83 elevator mechanics gather in the lobby of the South Tower, but when the second plane hits, they evacuate. In contrast, a passing elevator mechanic from another company runs into the WTC and dies trying to free trapped passengers. USA Today will comment: "When the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993, Otis Elevator's mechanics led the rescue of 500 people trapped in elevators. Some mechanics were dropped onto the roofs of the Twin Towers by helicopter. Others, carrying 50-pound oxygen tanks on their backs, climbed through smoke to machine rooms high in the towers. On Sept. 11, the elevator mechanicsmany of the same men involved in the rescues in 1993left the buildings after the second jet struck, nearly an hour before the first building collapsed." Although ACE Elevator, the local company which won the WTC contract from Otis in 1994, will say it was acting in accordance with procedure, USA Today will note: "The departure of elevator mechanics from a disaster site is unusual. The industry takes pride in rescues. In the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, elevator mechanics worked closely with the firefighters making rescues." Robert Caporale, editor of Elevator World will say, "Nobody knows the insides of a high-rise like an elevator mechanic. They act as guides for firefighters, in addition to working on elevators." The Port Authority will also say that their departure was in conflict with the emergency plan. "There was no situation in which the mechanics were advised or instructed to leave on their own." [USA Today, 12/19/2001; USA Today, 9/4/2002] Entity Tags: World Trade Center, ACE Elevator, New York Port Authority, Robert Caporale Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, [URL="http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=911timeline"]9/11 Timeline
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Phil, maybe they were just feeling guilty about their recent refurbishment.....and didn't want to face the comments or interviews about it.....or have anyone see their faces!!!!!!! - perhaps even take a photo of them during of a rescue!
They got the hell out of Dodge - fast! Try to get a list of names...one can't.
While they mostly [like all elevator companies in large buildings] worked nights; there were many reports of elevators out of service and general power outages for large groups of floors in the weeks and days just before 911.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Sorry, but this is way off topic from 911!...if needs further discussion, lets move to new thread.
Charles Drago Wrote:"Mandatory voting," Peter?
Really?
You would take away my right not to vote?
In a number of countries voting is mandatory [with some fine around ~ US100 [average earning equivalent] - [% voting in those countries is much higher than in US - but not anywhere near 100%]; and one can vote for no one or write in yourself or in otherways make a protest vote by spoiling your ballot, etc. Those who don't vote on principle are confused and confounded with those who don't vote out of sloth....though I admit many are starting to catch on that the votes are manipulated - as are the choices!
I would only want such a system with multparty system - allowing all to run and debate - not PAC money et al; and proportional representation....... Ideally in the future, this could be done [without manipulation] by home computer or phone device.,...and get rid of most of the votes of our 'representatives'....so when there is to be a war or such, the citizens vote, not the bought-up congressional prostitutes.
Enjoy your right not to vote for tweedle dee or tweedle dumb, Charles.....:mexican: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting
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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
We've encountered another one of those rare issues on which we disagree, Peter.
Being told that I must vote is, for me, indistinguishable from being told for whom I must vote.
Again, a HUGE diversion from a thread on 911......I am not passionate about this issue, but would like to see an end to top-down 'representative' democracy and a real bottom-up democracy. The technology exists to have all valid voters vote once from home on all major issues. Of course it takes making sure the electorate is informed on the issues and educated as to history and politics [which they are NOT!]; of course it takes making sure this version of electronic direct voting is not tampered with - difficult given the current system and TPTB; but I think it would express the democratic will of the PEOPLE and not of the Oligarchy and their paid-for puppets - and something to aim for and think about. I also would like few changes [quite a few] in the Constitution and proportional representation and multiple parties. Even in such a system, you could refuse to vote or write in Alfred E. Neuman, et al. Now we have no parties, no choices, no real vote. I don't blame you for wanting to show in some way your contempt for that system. On that we certainly agree!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
