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MP George Galloway on 9/11 - Calls for a new inquiry
#11
It had to be an inside job because they were tracking two of them in San Diego and didn't do anything about them. Also, they made efforts to discourage any follow-through on Moussaoui prior to the attacks.
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#12
Adele Edisen Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:
Adele Edisen Wrote:Jan and Al,

What specifically disturbed you in the video I posted of George Galloway calling for an new inquiry about 9/11?

Adele

Adele - I'm referring to the video of Galloway in post #4.

You posted that video in #4. I was asking for your reaction to the video I posted (#1) to which you reacted with your video post, I assume. I was wondering about your reaction, which must have been to Galloway's statements in the video I posted. I would appreciate your answer. I can see that you do not care much for Galloway, but why? Perhaps you might educate me and others about him, as just calling someone dishonest or showing him in some silly acting role says nothing about his political thinking. Thank you.

Adele

Adele - Galloway is a powerful orator, probably more potent than any mainstream British politician, but his political analysis is often limited.

He is of course correct that Al Qaeda, The Base, was created by western intelligence, and has frequently worked alongside western interests - eg in Afghanistan, in the former Yugoslavia, in Libya and now in Syria.

Bizarrely, in the video in your post #1, Galloway mentions the Gulf of Tonkin. Yet his analysis stops at Blowback.

His deep political thinking does not seem to encompass the concept of False Flag, nor recognise the nature of Gladio and the Strategy of Tension. All of which are established historical fact.

Galloway does not seem to realise that a terrrorist group can be played and manipulated into committing an act - with the defensive shields lowered, the intelligence checks deliberately "lost" or ignored - that superficially furthers the aims of that group but in reality is part of a Strategy of Tension designed to achieve entirely different aims.

The history of the Red Army Faction is a textbook example of such manipulation of a terrorist group.

The video I posted in #4 is of Galloway choosing to be locked into a TV camera-filled house for several weeks on "Celebrity Big Brother", and revealing some of his deepest psychological flaws to millions of viewers, preserved for ever on video.

Noone forced Galloway to do this. He chose to do so, blinded by his ego.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#13
Here we go again with MIHOP of LIHOP... both in so called insider operations. The MIHOP seems to carry with it the notion that the WTC was destroyed by CD as part of a operation where the cover story was that is was an AQ operation and they just messed up... as contrasted with the LIHOP where *they* facilitated the event in various actions or stand downs.

For some reason the 911 truth movement seems to feel that the LIHOP is not an inside job or the same level of treason and insist that the plot included the total destruction of the WTC which was not the result of collapses but of placed devices. The charge of *limited hangout* is meant to describe a path to escaping accountability and justice. However it seems to me that there are very few limited hangouts for the LIHOP that would allow the SOBs to walk (as they have).
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#14
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Here we go again with MIHOP of LIHOP... both in so called insider operations. The MIHOP seems to carry with it the notion that the WTC was destroyed by CD as part of a operation where the cover story was that is was an AQ operation and they just messed up... as contrasted with the LIHOP where *they* facilitated the event in various actions or stand downs.

For some reason the 911 truth movement seems to feel that the LIHOP is not an inside job or the same level of treason and insist that the plot included the total destruction of the WTC which was not the result of collapses but of placed devices. The charge of *limited hangout* is meant to describe a path to escaping accountability and justice. However it seems to me that there are very few limited hangouts for the LIHOP that would allow the SOBs to walk (as they have).

Jeffrey - are you referring to my post #12?
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#15
Jan.

Thank you for your answer here. I had no idea what this program was about, so I found this on Wikipedia:

Celebrity Big Brother (UK)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:Celebrity Big Brother is a British reality television game show in which a number of celebrity contestants live in an isolated house trying to avoid being evicted by the public with the aim of winning a large cash prize being donated to the winner's nominated charity at the end of the run. The nine series of the show to date have aired annually since 2001 (apart from in 2003, 2004 and 2008, when the show did not air), though starting in 2012, two series will air each year.

The show is a spin-off of the original series Big Brother. There are a number of differences between Big Brother and Celebrity Big Brother. For example, Celebrity Big Brother lasts for a much shorter time than Big Brother (usually three weeks), a proportion of the profits from eviction votes goes to charity, and the celebrities, as long as they are not ejected, nor "walk", are paid for their participation.

Maybe George Galloway was vying for the cash prize for himself and his favorite charity. By the way, I watched one other film in that same collection, a poorly done patch-and-paste sequence of the sharp-tongued US Judge Judy and Galloway where she gives him several good tongue lashings. Obviously, that never happened - it was all an editing job. Didn't care to watch the others which came up after the snippet you aired was finished.

Anyway, there is an international movement calling for an inquiry and investigation as to the cause of the tragedy of 9/11. See Magda's post on a prominent Italian jurist's call for one.

Adele
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#16
Of course it's possible to manipulate footage to create entirely phoney dialogue or impressions - this is what happened with the anti-prophet film which is currently causing chaos amongst muslim communities.

Unforunately, the Galloway Big Brother clip I posted in this thread is not manipulated. It is not created in the cutting room. It is pure George Galloway, recorded as it happened.

As for the Italian jurist's remarks, I've posted in Magda's thread. The most important part of the judge's comments are his decision to place 9/11 within the context of Gladio and the Strategy of Tension.

There is nothing in Galloway's analysis which demonstrates an understanding of the Strategy of Tension.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#17
I must admit, I liked George Galloway, he's done some great appearances on Question Time and is clearly leagues ahead of the average UK politician, which I know isn't saying much. His appearance on Big Brother was a shocker, though. And his stance on 9/11 has generally been one of scoffing and sneering in the manner of most people who know nothing about it but think they know it all. Typical of his utterances is the question, presented as if it clinches the argument, 'If there is no plane at the Pentagon, then where is it?'


As if you have to know where something is in order to say where it isn't.
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#18
In fact, the image of Galloway on Big Brother reminds me of David Shayler wearing that frock.
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#19
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Here we go again with MIHOP of LIHOP... both in so called insider operations. The MIHOP seems to carry with it the notion that the WTC was destroyed by CD as part of a operation where the cover story was that is was an AQ operation and they just messed up... as contrasted with the LIHOP where *they* facilitated the event in various actions or stand downs.

For some reason the 911 truth movement seems to feel that the LIHOP is not an inside job or the same level of treason and insist that the plot included the total destruction of the WTC which was not the result of collapses but of placed devices. The charge of *limited hangout* is meant to describe a path to escaping accountability and justice. However it seems to me that there are very few limited hangouts for the LIHOP that would allow the SOBs to walk (as they have).

Jeffrey,
I am trying to understand your 9-11 view. I don't read these long threads all the time. It appears you buy the official version BUT I saw a post by you online where you said you saw "Deceptions" three times. That is a conspiracy film. So can you tell me in brief and in common English if you believe the MSM version? Did you believe differently earlier?
Thanks
Dawn
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#20
Malcolm Pryce Wrote:In fact, the image of Galloway on Big Brother reminds me of David Shayler wearing that frock.

Indeed.

Flicking his tongue like Tony Montana's prettyboy sidekick in Scarface.

Once seen, forever compromised.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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