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The 9/11 Mystery Plane and the Vanishing of America
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Am currently deep within the pages of Mark Gaffney's book 'The 9/11 Mystery Plane and the Vanishing of America'. It is about the basic flaws in the official 911 narrative and conspiracy theory - but focused on a very little known and very significant USAF E-4B [only four exist and are nick-named the 'Doomsday Planes'] seen circling over the White House and in easy view of the Pentagon BEFORE the attack on the Pentagon. Its presence, though proven, is denied by the USAF, USSS, White House, USDD and others. It was known to some of the commissioners and staff of the 911 Commission, but was not investigated and not reported at all in the Report. Its presence is MOST significant and lends further proof, if further proofs are needed, to the cover-up, the changing official versions all being lies, AND the fact that the events were both likely planned well in advance and an inside job - hidden with the help of smoke and mirrors....but mainly by control over information flow that day and the purposeful confusion of ongoing wargames! Get the book! I recommend it without reservation! Will report on it further, when I've finished...which won't take long...can't put it down! Read
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#2
Thanks Peter. I just copied your post for two who still hold onto the official line. The level of denial people have astounds me.

Dawn
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#3
Reminds me of the Navy P-3 Orion that was only a few miles from TWA 800 that FBI said had all its electronics shut-off during the shootdown. Yep, the Navy's most sensitive electronics aircraft engaged in secret maneuvers that had all its detection systems turned-off.
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#4
The USAF E-4B Doomsday Planes are what a thermonuclear war would be waged from.....or COG managed from after the Planet was destroyed and only a few in deep bunkers were alive. It is a flying Pentagon, with the MOST sophisticated electronic sensing and sending devices on the Planet. It can contact all bases, all forces, all submarines, all satellites, all nukes and has the codes to launch them and usually when in flight on mission [not exercise or training] has the DOD Chief and 65-160 crew on board. That the superbly trained crew of the mystery plane[s] on 911 didn't see the incoming 'plane' toward the Pentagon, didn't warn anyone about it, and didn't activate Pentagon defenses is very damning....perhaps they were coordinating the inside job attack on America and thwarting any responses to the various 'threats'.......the information in this book alone is enough to demand a real investigation, and condemn all of the so-called investigations before now to be nothing but 'handled' cover-ups.

Oh, by the way, at least two [and possibly three] of the four existing E-4Bs were airborne and operational that day....and two landed at Offutt* AFB later in the day. Mission accomplished. America fully under 'control'. Oddly, by 'coincidence', W flew from reading about goats in Florida to Offutt that day too.....

* Offutt Air Force Base is a U.S. Air Force installation near Omaha, and lies adjacent to Bellevue in Sarpy County, Nebraska. It is the headquarters of the U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM).
Offutt AFB's legacy includes the construction of the first two bombers to drop atomic bombs and over 40 years as the headquarters for the former Strategic Air Command (SAC) and home for its associated ground and aerial command centers for the U.S. in case of nuclear war
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Thanks Peter. I just copied your post for two who still hold onto the official line. The level of denial people have astounds me.

Dawn

So, there are still 'intelligent', 'educated' people in Amerika who still can't 'go there' - that it wasn't an attack by outsiders on America, but another insider attack, as was Dallas?! Amazing! It is so very clear the official version is a Big Lie; and the fact it is covered-up, as with Dallas and so many other Big Lies, leaves one only to ask 'Why?' Who benefited...and what was the motive?!......seeing how America and the World have changed since 9/11/01 should tell anyone with half a brain what the motive was and who benefited. While some fo the details ARE complex...seeing that the official version can NOT be true is NOT! in fact, apart from getting the date of the event correct, almost EVERY OTHER bit of information offered as 'fact' about what happened that day is not fact, but a fiction...as were the fraudulent and controlled 'investigations'. Little known that one 911 investigator resigned stating that he didn't want to be part of another 'Warren Commission-type' cover-up. But one can't expect that to make the NYT......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#6
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911stand.html

"Everybody be careful what you say on these loops because these loops will be collected and handed over. Everybody copy?"

The Gun That Chain-Smoked
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#7
Phil Dragoo Wrote:http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911stand.html

"Everybody be careful what you say on these loops because these loops will be collected and handed over. Everybody copy?"

The Gun That Chain-Smoked

The Pentagon 'attack' [sic] was very complex. For example, the official version has the 'plane' hitting at about 9:38, while three clocks that stopped in the building due to explosive damage or similar stopped at about 9:31-9:32. This might seem trivial, but is likely not at all. Also, some of the radar and other data seem to have been 'scrubbed' to remove certain traces [the E-4B that flew low over the White House, for one example].

If one thinks the JFK Assassination was complex [and I'm one who thinks it was very], then one has to think of perhaps 1000 to 10000X the complexity to unravel or even to analyze the events of 911. New technology IMHO allowed for new means of cover-up and perpetrating a false-flag attack.

It is unlikely IMHO that a plane hit the Pentagon. Rather, it was likely closely timed planted explosives plus a missile of some type. The plane seen was reported to have pulled up just before nearing the Pentagon and flying over and away...or was some kind of holographic illusion - or military collusion. Most persons who reported seeing a plane actually hit the Pentagon were DOD employees. No photos show a plane hitting the Pentagon and the hole made in the side is much, much too small to have come from a plane - also there was no consistent wreckage of a plane left outside or inside.

There are many more anomalies....just as there were with the WTC and Shanksville. The official version is a total lie! The attack on America was an attack by a group of Americans for the purpose of control of America. Another silent/secret coup of sorts, as was Dallas. I believe similar forces and motives were behind both.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#8
Quote:At least six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, made a tape recording that day describing the events, but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it, the Transportation Department said today.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, on Long Island, but it was later destroyed by an F.A.A. quality-assurance manager, who crushed the cassette in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building, according to a report made public today by the inspector general of the Transportation Department. [New York Times 5/6/04]

Now, why would some supervisor do that, I wonder......and not be punished in any way for destroying evidence...hmmmm....:joystick:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:The attack on America was an attack by a group of Americans for the purpose of control of America.

We agree on so much, Peter, but not on this. In my view, the 9-11 operation, like the Dallas assassination, was sponsored by supra-national interests whose goals continue to transcend control of any one nation. Thus I bristle at use of "inside job" when used to describe the 9-11 conspiracy insofar as the term implies sponsorship by factions within the U.S. "government."

Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, the CIA, high ranking military officers, etc. are, for me, False Sponsors and true Facilitators. That they may believe themselves to be Sponsors does not change this assessment.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:Another silent/secret coup of sorts, as was Dallas.

I think we're on the same page here.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:I believe similar forces and motives were behind both.

And here.
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Charles Drago Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The attack on America was an attack by a group of Americans for the purpose of control of America.

We agree on so much, Peter, but not on this. In my view, the 9-11 operation, like the Dallas assassination, was sponsored by supra-national interests whose goals continue to transcend control of any one nation. Thus I bristle at use of "inside job" when used to describe the 9-11 conspiracy insofar as the term implies sponsorship by factions within the U.S. "government."

Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, the CIA, high ranking military officers, etc. are, for me, False Sponsors and true Facilitators. That they may believe themselves to be Sponsors does not change this assessment.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:Another silent/secret coup of sorts, as was Dallas.

I think we're on the same page here.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:I believe similar forces and motives were behind both.

And here.

Charles, while I think that most of the numbers and impetus were from US citizens [if disloyal and treasonous ones], I would NOT discount persons and forces outside of the US being involved, as well. Clearly there were small and medium bit players from Saudi, Israel, Pakistan, the UK and other countries and no doubt very powerful and not very visible persons and groupings from many countries or persons and groupings that recognize no authority of countries [only their own power and brute force] likely participated. That said, I still think the main plan was 'made in the USA'. however, I would not be shocked, horrified nor embarrassed for it to be proven otherwise....If you are correct, then the 'cancer' has really spread throughout the Planet and will need a Planet-wide response to remove it [as opposed to many local responses]. I would, however, agree with you that many of the biggest players were not in the government....they are the puppeteers who pull the strings of the 'government[s]' for their own purposes and pleasure....only those lower down had some positions in the government or its agencies and departments....though, even those in 'government' who participated did not have their true loyalty to the US in any manner - theoretically, constitutionally, legally, morally, nor in fact - IMO. Quite the opposite, whoever were the instigators and top levels had only their own interests in mind [Dallas and 911 - as well as other incidents in between - ditto before and after we could both, I'm sure, agree upon, as well]
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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