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No ad hom posts please. And please no ego puffery that you have the Truth alone. We can disagree on things civilly - no? Yes.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:No ad hom posts please. And please no ego puffery that you have the Truth alone. We can disagree on things civilly - no? Yes.
Peter, I read your posts, I know you are as frustrated with the RT/Sputnik flavored aroma around here (I can smell Glenn Greenwald from his Brazil location.) Part of my point is FoxTrump channel trolls are not information sources, Mueller is not his wife's great uncle, Earle, or his mother's in-law, Bissell, any more than Peter Janney is his CIA father or Uncle Frank Pace. Janney was confronted with facts he and John Simkin definitely did not appreciate.
My core point is opposite of personal. It is, when the facts are not on your side, do not resort to undermining the reputation of the messenger. I am not a "DiEugenio protege"...the Janney ploy when my facts ruined his day. Mueller is not the problem. No republican in yesterday's hearing happened to mention the Mueller report specifically cleared Jeff Sessions, ( LINK } or that Papadopoulos's wife was employed by republican pinata, Joseph Mifsud.
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So, again, I found Janney's missing "CIA assassin" less than a month after Janney very publicly smeared the missing bogeyman VERY PUBLICLY in the faces of Lisa and Jim. HP Albarelli doubled down, posting in EF that he still occasionally communicated with the same "wet work" operator Leo Damore described. Simkin banned both Jim and I, Janney belittled me as DiEugenio's errand boy.
As in the posts in this thread I pushed back against in my last post, can everyone at least consider debating the facts instead of shooting the messenger? BTW, I got no reply to my objection to being accused of coming under the influence of Shaw biographer, Donald Carpenter. So, the tactic is full circle....it is unproductive BS. If the facts threaten a posters position, silence is better to resort to than a tarred brush!
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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I have watched John Soloman and Sara Carter (maybe) 50 or more times on TV. They are both obviously sincere people. This can not be said about ex-CIA intern Anderson Cooper or the brilliant (but biased) Rachel Maddow both of whom I regularly watch, too.
As for the influence of the Cabell brothers on the thinking of Robert Mueller---I wasn't suggesting that they influenced Robert Mueller on a face-to-face basis.
Let me only suggest that, if certain things people believe about the Cabell brothers happens to be true, then that would make them essentially serial killers. If I had Jeffry Dahmer or Charles Manson on my recent family tree, I would do everything I could to keep that quiet. The Cabell brothers might even have been as bad or worse considering their possible bad impact on the US.
Imagine watching the Zapruder film and realizing that your grandfather and his brother were responsible for that in a major way. NO THANKS!!!!!
As proven in the book Hit List, by Richard Belzer, there were over 100 witnesses murdered in the aftermath of the JFK assassination. That's serial murder by any definition.
The family of Senator Joseph McCarthy had a major ordeal in managing and suppressing the personal papers of their (basically evil) forbear. What would happen to folks related to the Cabell brothers if they were outed as JFK assassination leaders? Would their phone ever stop ringing?
Fortunately, I don't personally have any murderers on my family tree and neither does my wife. But if I found out there was one, I am not telling anybody. And I can guarantee that.
And there is also the old (possibly biased) expression "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree." That is, at least, something to ponder in re the JFK assassination and the Cabell brothers.
I should add that my impression of Mueller after watching him on TV is that he is (or was) a basically well-meaning person, but also appearing to have a conscience that has been wracked by his many years of moral compromise. Hence his fidgety nervousness. That's just my impression. Nothing more.
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There are 569 graves in this obscure Jewish cemetery in Gloversville, NY. Two are occupied by the parents of G. David Schine and Rene Schine Crown, and two by the parents of George Senator. https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/6495...-cemetery?
Senator and his family operated a soda fountain on Main St., within shoutin' distance of the Corp. HQ of Schine Chain theaters. Albert Jenner is quoted in NYTimes article titled, "The Ordeal of Lester Crown." stating, "Whenever the boys got in trouble, they called me instead of their father," (Henry Crown) or words to that effect.
G David Schine was McCarthy's very visible assistant and most famous Roy Cohn fave, aside from Trump. Schine was GM of the Ambassador Hotel when house security possibly gave RFK special treatment.
Those are all facts.
Do not misunderstand; I do have informed concerns.: General Butler, is this you?
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[FONT=&]Oh, and in which a retired, well-respected Marine testified before Congress about the extremely worrying crimes, and the New York Times was unimpressed by his "unconvincing narrative."History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
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"Names make news." Last week these names made this news:
...To Pittsburgh one morning went eagle-nosed Major-General Smedley Darlington ("Old Gimlet Eye") Butler, to speak at a banquet.* That same day Jimmy ("Schnozzle") Durante was appearing at a Pittsburgh theatre. Stepping off his train, General Butler thrust his head forward in characteristic pose, stomped down the platform. Loiterers, mistaking him for the well-publicized Durante, began to cheer. That evening nosey Comedian Durante turned up at the banquet where nosey General Butler was speaking. A cameraman snapped them nose to nose.....
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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Quote:....There's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down....
Goodness, gracious....just who can we trust? Something seems fishy... daughter of WND's Farah sez one thing, Mueller sez another....under oath...
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Jun 15, 2019 - Farah will be celebrating her 30th birthday.....How is the Trump presidency going? "That's an easy one. Absolutely the most stark example of the success of President Trump's presidency to me personally is our near 50-year low in unemployment.....
....Or maybe.....? (Have the rules been changed, or does the fish rot from the head (aka the (self anointed) victim-in-chief), down?)
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Website of Norton (mentioned included in 2013 article, below,) via the Wayback Machine :
https://web.archive.org/web/201502220324...index.html
https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028423/01334 Page B3 (Norton no longer owns the website mentioned in his 2013 column, and no hyphen in url.)
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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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