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Morley v. CIA
#1
http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/morley...#more-3023


This case is very importand and Jeff is to be commended for all his efforts.

Dawn
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#2
Dawn Meredith Wrote:http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/morley...#more-3023


This case is very importand and Jeff is to be commended for all his efforts.

Dawn

I agree, very important.....should be read. I don't have much faith in the US Judicial system anymore...and the makeup of this Court doesn't look 'great'....... but we must fight the good fight and say we tried our best to reverse the Fascist Coup that began [in its modern form] at the end of WW2 and has built and grown in strength ever since...to the point where we are all but a full blown fascist police state IMO. Cue Nemoller's quote...

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#3
Morley has been at this since 2003, beginning with a FOIA request. He has had to wait some ten years for an answer. What "national security" are they, the powers-that-be and their minions, worrying about? The security of the murderers of President John Kennedy? Are they even still alive?

I began seeking documents from the Secret Service, the FBI, and the CIA about my interview on November 24, 1963, by FBI Special Liaison Agent Orrin Bartlett and US Secret Service Agent John Rice in 1975 when I first learned of the FOIA from Attorney Jack Peebles. I received nothing but denials from these agencies and/or 'national securitry' excuses. In 1991 I spoke with Mr. Bartlett by phone and he encouraged me in writing about my experiences.

He had retired from the FBI years before. On November 24, 1963, he had called his heaquarters in Washington, and other relevant FBI field offices ordering them to pick up Jose Rivera for interrogation. Where is a record of this interrogation, and why must it be hidden, even after fifty years of the public murder?

I have waited over 37 years after my initial FOIA request for answers. Will the documents, if they still exist, be released in 2017? I rather doubt it because the truth of the Kennedy assassination, revealing that elements of our own government, members of our own military/intelligence agencies, and private businessmen, enemies of JFK, conspired to murder him. What would the American people then do, if and when they learn the truth?

Adele
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Adele Edisen Wrote:Morley has been at this since 2003, beginning with a FOIA request. He has had to wait some ten years for an answer. What "national security" are they, the powers-that-be and their minions, worrying about? The security of the murderers of President John Kennedy? Are they even still alive?

I began seeking documents from the Secret Service, the FBI, and the CIA about my interview on November 24, 1963, by FBI Special Liaison Agent Orrin Bartlett and US Secret Service Agent John Rice in 1975 when I first learned of the FOIA from Attorney Jack Peebles. I received nothing but denials from these agencies and/or 'national securitry' excuses. In 1991 I spoke with Mr. Bartlett by phone and he encouraged me in writing about my experiences.

He had retired from the FBI years before. On November 24, 1963, he had called his heaquarters in Washington, and other relevant FBI field offices ordering them to pick up Jose Rivera for interrogation. Where is a record of this interrogation, and why must it be hidden, even after fifty years of the public murder?

I have waited over 37 years after my initial FOIA request for answers. Will the documents, if they still exist, be released in 2017? I rather doubt it because the truth of the Kennedy assassination, revealing that elements of our own government, members of our own military/intelligence agencies, and private businessmen, enemies of JFK, conspired to murder him. What would the American people then do, if and when they learn the truth?

Adele

Interesting detail of your story I didn't know Adele [that Rivera was interrogated]!.....then it is even more surprising you were not on 'the list' to be eliminated for knowing pieces of the truth......Yes, even though he no doubt lied, the very fact the document has gone into some black hole indicates he said enough for those who cover up the truth to ever want it seen!

As to your question as to what the American People would do if really shown the Truth of what happened in Dallas and since [although I think there is already enough proofs if they WANTED to face the horrible Truth!] - they would have NO choice but to change the form of government, and do a complete house cleaning....before it is too late....I begin to fear we now at the 50th are just on the cusp of the 'too late' point. Sadly.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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I just deleted Junk from The Church Lady, Subject line: "Morley v. CIA"

I posted here in the JFK section this week Jefferson Morley citing a comment by Alan Dale in re William K. Harvey, a man Helms pretended to hardly know, a man who was a drinking partner of Mongoose associate John Roselli; the pair died within a month of each other just prior to the HSCA's tenure.

The HSCA which CIA marionette Blakey centuries later would whine was misled by CIA.

Surely Gaeton Fonzi and Ed Lopez and Dan Hardaway were stonewalled by Joannides.

And Joannides' Cubans, made rabid by the intentional failure of the CIA op "Bay of Pigs," did much to sheep-dip Oswald the Communist Castro lover, having already been deeply stained by Angleton's false defector program--I mean, come on, Albert Schweitzer College, of all the colleges in all of Europe he had to choose the one Director Hoover and European intelligence could not find for weeks.

The question may be asked what possible effect on national security can come of the acts of a lone gunman.

Hence, why did Joannides stonewall the House Select Committee on Assassinations if it were the act of a lone gunman.

Which leads us back to the start, to protect the agency which was party to the crime.

Mr. Morley reports now being smeared by the arrogant--welcome to the world which doubts Bugliosi, which is to say most of the world, that portion with uncrippled perception but no power.

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Dawn Meredith Wrote:http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/morley...#more-3023


This case is very importand and Jeff is to be commended for all his efforts.

Dawn

I am delighted that Jeff has joined us here at DPF.

We need more like him to assist in the effort by the powers that be
who are making a mockery- and worse -of the 50th.

"The whole world is watching".
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Excellent news!
Quote:A federal court ruled Tuesday that my lawsuit for the records of deceased CIA officer George Joannides "serves a public benefit" and ordered a lower court judge to reconsider his decision to deny the award of legal fees.
A three-judge appellate panel declared that Judge Richard Leon had erred in his September 2012 decision that the governnrnent did not have to pay my court costs for 10 years of litigation. In 2007 the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled in favor of arguments made by my attorney, James Lesar, who contended that the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) obligated the CIA to release more records about Joannides. Plaintiffs who prevail in FOIA and civil rights cases are often awarded legal fees to discourage the government from resisting meritorious claims.
In its unanimous decision, the court cited its ruling in a recent FOIA case, Davy v. CIA (also argued by Lesar), that disclosure of records "about individuals allegedly involved in President Kennedy's assassination serve a public benefit."
The court's ruling is a moral victory that awaits substantive fulfillment.
My lawsuit, Morley v. CIA, has shed new light on events the CIA has long sought to conceal: Joannides's shadowy role in the JFK assassination story. The CIA did not disclose his actions in 1963 to the Warren Commission or to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA). His story did not come to light until the Assassination Records Review Board declassified a handful of records from his personnel file in 1998, and I wrote a story about him for the Miami New Times in 2001.
At the time of JFK's assassination, Joannides served as the chief of CIA covert operations in Miami. A career undercover officer with a specialty in "psychological warfare," he funded a Cuban exile student group whose leaders publicized the pro-Castro activities of accused presidential assassin Lee H. Oswald three months before Oswald allegedly killed JFK. After JFK was dead, Joannides's agents used CIA funds to link Oswald to Cuban leader Fidel Castro.
In 1978, Joannides resurfaced as the CIA's chief liaison to the HSCA but never disclosed his knowledge of the events of 1963. "The CIA set me up," HSCA general counsel G. Robert Blakey told the Washington Post in 2005.
[Image: GJ-Inman-w-citation-071581-270x300.jpg]Retired CIA officer George Joannides (left) received the Career Intelligence Medal from deputy CIA director Bobby Ray Inman on July 15, 1981.
(Photo credit: CIA)

The litigation has forced the agency to acknowledge previously undisclosed facts about Joannides, including that he
served in an "undercover" capacity while funding Oswald's antagonists among Cuban exiles in the summer of 1963.
travelled to New Orleans twice in the spring of 1964 when the Warren Commission was taking testimony from members of the anti-Castro group he guided and monitored;
served in an "undercover" capacity when he stonewalled congressional investigators in 1978.
received one of the agency's highest honors, the Career Intelligence Medal, for his "cumulative record of service reflecting a pattern of increasing levels of responsibility" and his "distinctly exceptional achievements."
In the course of the litigation, the CIA was also forced to acknowledge that it retains at least 295 additional documents about Joannides that it has never made public in any form. In sworn court filings, Agency officials said that the release of the records many of them more than 50 years old would harm U.S. "national security" today.
In their ruling Judges Harry Edwards, Stephen Williams, and Brett Kavanaugh emphasized that the standard for entitlement to legal fees established by the Davy case does not "disqualify plaintiffs who obtain information that, while not arguably of immediate public interest, nevertheless enables further research ultimately of great value and interest such as the understanding of a Presidential assassination."
The court ordered Judge Leon to revisit the question of legal fees "in a manner consistent with Davy." But the court took no position on whether Leon should actually award the fees, now estimated at $150,000. When Leon will decide that question remains to be seen.
The U.S. government and the CIA still have not paid any price for concealing from the public a key batch of JFK assassination records that will shed light on CIA operations involving Lee Harvey Oswald while President Kennedy was still alive. Much of the story remains out of public view.
See also:
"Why I sued the CIA for JFK records" (JFK Facts, Feb. 23, 2013)
"Justice Dept. denies CIA officer was honored for JFK cover-up" (JFK Facts, Dec. 19, 2012)
http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/d...re-by-cia/
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#8
While that sounds like a good 'victory' and might potentially pay him back for all the legal fees; I don't see where it advances him or us any of the documents being withheld. On what logical basis [other than CIA knowledge - before, during, after - or involvement, or both] could these withheld documents harm what they like to misname 'National Security'?! Truman was no bright light, but he publicly apologized for having created the CIA after the War - one month after Dallas - to make his hidden point as to who he thought was involved. That, along with Ike's warning about the 'MIC' really says it all. None of the Agencies and Branches of Government and Military protect the Citizenry of the US or World, they protect their secrets and their work for their real masters.....which are not [as the Constitution would have it] the People. It was bad from the 'get go', worse after WW2 when these creeps never 'stood down' from a full war footing and even joined forces with some of the 'enemy', worse still with the JFK and other major assassinations, worse still with all of the government overthrows, false-flag and black ops; but nothing has beaten the hubris of this lot since 911!

Can this be exposed and reversed? In time to make a difference? Stay tuned....and keep your shoulder to the wheel!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.

http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry ...ticle.html

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http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/16questions.htm

Paragraph Five:

In the name of national security, the Commission's hearings were held in secret, thereby continuing the policy which has marked the entire course of the case. This prompts my second question: If, as we are told, Oswald was the lone assassin, where is the issue of national security? Indeed, precisely the same question must be put here as was posed in France during the Dreyfus case: If the Government is so certain of its case, why has it conducted all its inquiries in the strictest secrecy?

Just as Joannides was up to his rictus grin in the assassination while presenting himself as Mortimer Magritte with a Green Apple Mask

so, too, is the lone gunman a term of art for a cabal fiat executed by a host of winged monkeys many too familiar to us.


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