Sympathy for the Devil? No, Mick Sympathy for WeThePeople.

[Phil Dragoo]

And this is NOT an invitation to discuss this further.

Hahahaha........

Now that's funny right there!

The most dangerous enemy of The Castle is the human spirit, curious, resilient, persistent.

[Jim Hackett II]

I much prefer John Lennon to anything the Stones ever did.

More human, more in line with my own values after the ravages of the Empire in the last 60 years.

Only once do I feel I ever got took for a R n R show.
The Stones might as well held me up at gunpoint.
'76 Assembly Hall....Mick's Birthday....yippee.

It sucked.
Jagger was running around trying to undress Billy Preston and the band.
The sound was for crap, even without Mick interferring with the musicians.
The crowd was booing the Stones... almost stopped the show, twice.

IU crowd was very non-violent, far left but vocal
even for '76, but being ripped off for 15 bux in that day was a buncha ****.
A full tank of gas and a nice dinner and drinks in that day.

Twice the price of a Dead show of the same time frame.
Less than one tenth the show of the Dead.
To this day I don't buy Stones music.
I don't hold grudges, OK, very VERY rarely, and very provoked I do so.
But I never forget being used or taken.

Sugar Magnolia.....

Jim
Post re: Dulles and Lenin and Hitler sponsorship coming soon.

[Jim Hackett II]

Continuing the same quote from A Certain Arrogance:

"During the war, newspapers, mail, and the all-important diplomatic pouches with sensitive letters, intelligence reports and coded messages had to go from Vienna to Berlin, then through a neutral Baltic port, before finally being sent to Bern and cabled to the United States. Adding to these delays, Germany held up communications in and out of Vienna for as long as a month.


Therefore, early in 1917, Allen Dulles constructed "a new transmittal route for the embassy's communications." Dulles assumed the role of hands-on communications officer, sometimes carrying "as many as two dozen of the bulky leather pouches."

Each week in 1917, Allen Dulles was absent from Vienna for at least two days, traveling to Zurich, to Bern, and then back to Vienna: Zurich, where Russian revolutionary exile Lenin lived; and Bern, where the German Legation made final plans for Lenin's sealed train trip to Petrograd.

Peter Grose's discoveries in both U.S. and Soviet sources have been extremely relevant, particularly Lenin's location in March and April 1917: "Lenin spent his years of exile in Zurich, not Bern, but the Leninist archives in Moscow showed that… Lenin and his common-law wife… went to [Bern]… that weekend to complete a still-unrevealed matter of intrigue." Grose clearly indicates it was Easter weekend, but does not reveal what he may have discovered concerning the matter. He does add that on this "crucial" Easter Sunday, Lenin had nothing scheduled.

Might Lenin, Grose speculated, have decided "to compare notes with a representative of the United States government," to establish "common cause" against Germany?


Grose's speculation, however interesting, lacks merit: Lenin clearly intended to close down the Eastern Front, which would free up many thousands of German troops to fight in France. This is why a far more important "matter of intrigue" was probably the issue in Bern."


Evica, George Michael; Charles Robert Drago (2011-02-01). A Certain Arrogance: The Sacrificing of Lee Harvey Oswald and the Wartime Manipulation of Religious Groups by U.S. Intelligence (Kindle Locations 2124-2147). Independent Publishers Group. Kindle Edition.
[End A Certain Arrogance excerpt]
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This begs the question, why would an American intelligence asset possibly want to be as active in moving a radical revolutionary into Russia knowing radical's the intent was to overthrow the government and then to remove Russia from the war?
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the American government to keep the Czar in power and in the war? What was going on in Bern?
AWDulles building his empire even in World War 1 and still there is more to this trend.

[Jim Hackett II]

To answer the question about what was AWDulles doing in Bern(e), the geopolitical as well as deep political implications of the timeframe of 1917 must be clarified. As in all history, there are roots to the current times in the past. 1917 was no different.

What "coincidence" could bring AWDulles, VILenin and the German operatives together?

The German operatives that would create the NSDAP, (Nazi party), come into close contact with and use as a street snitch a veteran named AHitler to empower it and put the Austrian psychotic in power eventually. The motivation of the German General Staff is obvious to win the war in the west by eliminating Russia from the two-front-war. Using VILenin for this purpose is logical.

VILenin soon to overthrow the precursor to his Bolshevik government and indeed take the new born U.S.S.R. out of the "Great War"

AWDulles soon to empower a shadow government in the name of the American people but answering to few and not to WeThePeople. How and why would he be involved in VILenin's "sealed train ride"?

Betchya AWDulles didn't leave us anything but CYA lies and obfuscation.

Things long foreseen and shaped were converging in 1917. Shaped, not by any of the above folks, but by the stateless, racist and uber-wealthy Secret Team. It is frightening to consider that even AWDulles was only a servant of the ST in light of that which is now known of his activities.

[Phil Dragoo]

We know that circa 1930 Dulles obtains a U.S. loan for Germany while downplaying the danger of Hitler.

When Dulles was shuttling diplomatic pouches in the great game, Hitler was delivering dispatches in dangerous ground.

A glimpse of the time from history.com shows in broad strokes the nascent national socialist:

Among the German wounded in the Ypres Salient in Belgium on October 14, 1918, is Corporal Adolf Hitler, temporarily blinded by a British gas shell and evacuated to a German military hospital at Pasewalk, in Pomerania.


The young Hitler was drafted for Austrian military service but turned down due to lack of fitness; while living in Munich at the start of the First World War in the summer of 1914, he asked for and received special permission to enlist as a German soldier. As a member of the 16th Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment, Hitler traveled to France in October 1914. He saw heavy action during the First Battle of Ypres, earning the Iron Cross that December for dragging a wounded comrade to safety.


Over the course of the next two years, Hitler took part in some of the fiercest struggles of the war, including the Battle of Neuve Chapelle, the Second Battle of Ypres and the Battle of the Somme. On October 7, 1916, near Bapaume, France, Hitler was wounded in the leg by a shell blast. Sent to convalesce near Berlin, he returned to his old unit by February 1917. According to a comrade, Hans Mend, Hitler was given to discourse on the dismal state of morale and dedication to the cause on the home front in Germany: "He sat in the corner of our mess holding his head between his hands in deep contemplation. Suddenly he would leap up, and running about excitedly, say that in spite of our big guns victory would be denied us, for the invisible foes of the German people were a greater danger than the biggest cannon of the enemy."


Hitler earned more citations for bravery in the next year, including an Iron Cross 1st Class for "personal bravery and general merit" in August 1918 for single-handedly capturing a group of French soldiers hiding in a shell hole during the final German offensive on the Western Front. The injury in October, however, put an end to Hitler's service in World War I. He learned of the German surrender while recovering at Pasewalk. Infuriated and frustrated by the news"I staggered and stumbled back to my ward and buried my aching head between the blankets and pillow"Hitler felt he and his fellow soldiers had been betrayed by the German people. In 1941, Hitler as fuhrer would reveal the degree to which his career and its terrible legacy had been shaped by the First World War, writing that "I brought back home with me my experiences at the front; out of them I built my National Socialist community."

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-histo...gas-attack

Phil's footnote: The irony: Hitler victim of British gas attack in the prelude to the tenure of Bank of England director Montagu Norman who would manipulate him to the bunker. Leading anglophobe du jour: dba B. H. Obama. ("You say 'Londonistan' like that's a bad thing.")

[Jim Hackett II]

Any examination of the various events of the rise of fascism in Europe and America should not start at the beer hall putsch' of Munich in 1923, though many accounts do so. The empowerment of the NSDAP would have been spectacular indeed if the facts supported a meteoric rise of AHitler from a street snitch to Chancellor from '17 to '33. As usual there is more to the history than this presentation of AHitler as instant chancellor up from the masses in times of economic chaos.

AHitler for his psychosis was not a coward as Phil notes. Nor was he stupid, uneducated yes but not stupid.
Quite brave and a stark comparison of dispatch carriers as AWDulles on a train in peace and dining well,
as opposed to living in the lice ridden "trenches" of stagnant warfare and carrying dispatches under fire.

Dispatch carriers had to be trusted and depended upon by commanders.
Not duty for shirkers in the time before effective radio use in chains of command.
Is this a hero? It is heroic duty to be sure.

My opinion is that the hate AHitler willing played host to in his mind produced a rot of heart as hate often does.


1923 is too late a date to pick as a starting point' for the tales. In fact 1917 to 1927 is important and revealing. Even the 1917 conjunction of VILenin, AHitler and AWDulles is not early enough to begin any chronology of the fascists.


Mr. Preparata wrote this in his book Conjuring Hitler:

"If we want to understand the rise of the Nazi Era and the conflict between Britain and the Reich, we must first examine the international relations of the new German nation from 1870 onwards."

[End Quote]


This view of the German developments is found in Nola Levin's Holocaust.


"The life of a nation is infinitely complex and historians can select out of vast sources only certain forces and events that suggest a pattern. Much can never be plumbed. The case of Germany is fraught with riddles but certain trends are clear. Retarded unification under Bismarck in 1871 created among Germans a feeling of being behind the rest of western Europe and apart from it. By way of compensation, an attitude of German superiority developed. Moreover, under Bismarck, Germany was still basically a loose confederation of states within a feudal social order. Bismarck had also raised up the specter of France, the "problem" of the Catholics and the Social Democrats, all issues which continued to be unassimilated after the heady imperialism of the 1890's. …


While apparently yearning for the organic national unity achieved in western Europe, German writers and historians expressed and also aroused popular contempt for Western thought and principles: Individualism, pacifism and democracy were scorned. Perhaps nothing is more revealing of this temper of mind than the ideas of Thomas Mann in the period prior to World War I. Mann was later to disavow them, after having experienced the Nazi assault on civilization, but in his early work he contrasted the bourgeois, superficial civilization of the West with the "profound and instinctive forces of life," culminating in German militarism. He welcomed the war of 1914 as the best safeguard against the democratization of Germany, "as purification, liberation, and enormous hope. … The German soul is opposed to the pacifist ideal of civilization, for is not peace an element of civil corruption?" In his Reflections of a Non-political Man, written in 1917, Mann has a long and bitter attack on the Western intellectual who concentrates his efforts primarily on social and political matters. Western optimism and belief in progress are contrasted with the conservative, nonpolitical German romantic who is in touch with a deeper reality. The prevalence of so many nonpolitical "romantics" in Germany who regarded politics as hypocrisy and deceit hastened the rise of National Socialism. Mann later deplored this unrealistic view of political life and the apparent German incapacity to politics as an art of compromise and common sense.


Many German writers, including Mann, have also commented on a deep-seated sense of inferiority that gnawed at the German spirit. …"

[End excerpt from The Holocaust by Nola Levin]

[Albert Doyle]

Jagger: "There's some little jerk in the FBI...Keeping papers on me six feet high...It gets me down..."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dLa2l1tyx0




And the explicit expose of Central American government terror during the 80's (for some reason this overtly political video freezes on You-Tube at the beginning):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVJkfXeTs9Q




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[Jim Hackett II]

Nor likely to lose focus on this topic.

A new ebook has confirmed as a second source much of what I was not going to use as I had only one source, now I can write that Freikorps into this piece!!!.
Best regards
Jim

[Jim Hackett II]

Just a citation to stand in for and preceding the FreiKorps era.....

Who was Adolf Hitler before the "Great War"?

I offer this quote indicative of radical politics long before the military got a hold of the young man.
As for the personality of the young Austrian, I find John Toland's biography revealing.
He was not universally thought odd for a bohemian. More later.
For the moment...

From The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer

"THE BUDDING IDEAS OF ADOLF HITLER

They were, with one exception, not original but picked up, raw, from the churning maelstrom of Austrian politics and life in the first years of the twentieth century. The Danube monarchy was dying of indigestion. For centuries a minority of German-Austrians had ruled over the polyglot empire of a dozen nationalities and stamped their language and their culture on it. But since 1848 their hold had been weakening. The minorities could not be digested. Austria was not a melting pot. In the 1860s the Italians had broken away and in 1867 the Hungarians had won equality with the Germans under a so-called Dual Monarchy. Now, as the twentieth century began, the various Slav peoples the Czechs, the Slovaks, the Serbs, the Croats and the others were demanding equality and at least national autonomy. Austrian politics had become dominated by the bitter quarrel of the nationalities.

But this was not all. There was social revolt too and this often transcended the racial struggle. The disenfranchised lower classes were demanding the ballot, and the workers were insisting on the right to organize trade unions and to strike not only for higher wages and better working conditions but to gain their democratic political ends. Indeed a general strike had finally brought universal manhood suffrage and with this the end of political dominance by the Austrian Germans, who numbered but a third of the population of the Austrian half of the empire.

To these developments Hitler, the fanatical young German-Austrian nationalist from Linz, was bitterly opposed. To him the empire was sinking into a "foul morass." It could be saved only if the master race, the Germans, reasserted their old absolute authority. The non-German races, especially the Slavs and above
all the Czechs, were an inferior people. It was up to the Germans to rule them with an iron hand. The Parliament must be abolished and an end put to all the democratic "nonsense."

Though he took no part in politics, Hitler followed avidly the activities of the three major political parties of old Austria: the Social Democrats, the Christian Socialists and the Pan-German Nationalists. And there now began to sprout in the mind of this unkempt frequenter of the soup kitchens a political shrewdness which enabled him to see with amazing clarity the strengths and weaknesses of contemporary political movements and which, as it matured, would make him the master politician of Germany.

At first contact he developed a furious hatred for the party of the Social Democrats. "What most repelled me," he says, "was its hostile attitude toward the struggle for the preservation of Germanism [and] its disgraceful courting of the Slavic 'comrade' . . . In a few months I obtained what might have otherwise
required decades: an understanding of a pestilential whore,∗ cloaking herself as social virtue and brotherly love." 47
∗ The word was cut out in the second and all subsequent editions of Mein Kampf, and the noun "pestilence" substituted."

And yet he was already intelligent enough to quench his feelings of rage against this party of the working class in order to examine carefully the reasons for its popular success. He concluded that there were several reasons, and years later he was to remember them and utilize them in building up the National
Socialist Party of Germany.

One day, he recounts in Mein Kampf, he witnessed a mass demonstration of Viennese workers. "For nearly two hours I stood there watching with bated breath the gigantic human dragon slowly winding by. In oppressed anxiety I finally left the place and sauntered homeward." 48

At home he began to read the Social Democratic press, examine the speeches of its leaders, study its organization, reflect on its psychology and political techniques and ponder the results. He came to three conclusions which explained to him the success of the Social Democrats: They knew how to create a mass
movement, without which any political party was useless; they had learned the art of propaganda among the masses; and, finally, they knew the value of using what he calls "spiritual and physical terror."

This third lesson, though it was surely based on faulty observation and compounded of his own immense prejudices, intrigued the young Hitler. Within ten years he would put it to good use for his own ends.
"I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous, until the nerves of the attacked persons break down. . . This is a tactic based on precise calculation of all human weaknesses, and its result will lead to success with almost mathematical certainty . . .

I achieved an equal understanding of the importance of physical terror toward the individual and the masses . . . For while in the ranks of their supporters the victory achieved seems a triumph of the justice of their own cause, the defeated adversary in most cases despairs of the success of any further resistance." 49

No more precise analysis of Nazi tactics, as Hitler was eventually to develop them, was ever written.

Notes:
47 Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, American edition (Boston, 1943) pp.38-39.
48 Ibid., p. 41.
49 Ibid., pp. 43-44."
[End Quote From: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer]

[Phil Dragoo]

Jim

So often, if not universally, Hitler's epithet is mad. You cite Shirer's observations to clarify that he was canny. The important distillation of his career on pages 43-44 of Mein Kampf reveal a pattern repeated in much of the strategy of tension, quite possibly including Dallas, Waco, and other milemarkers on the Road to Nineteen Eighty-Four:

"I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous, until the nerves of the attacked persons break down. . . This is a tactic based on precise calculation of all human weaknesses, and its result will lead to success with almost mathematical certainty . . .

I achieved an equal understanding of the importance of physical terror toward the individual and the masses . . . For while in the ranks of their supporters the victory achieved seems a triumph of the justice of their own cause, the defeated adversary in most cases despairs of the success of any further resistance."

In the case of spiritual terror, it was applied to Jim Garrison, breaking his momentum in a fusillade of slander

In the case of physical terror, Hit List by Richard Belzer and David Wayne is replete with examples: Domingo Benevidez did not identify Oswald as Tippit's killer--until his lookalike brother was fatally shot in the head.

Waco displayed both: spiritual terror with the long build up of Federal forces and the deprivations and provocations towards the captives, then tanks rampant spraying flamable gas into kerosene lamp-lit spaces buttressed with bales of flammable hay.

In Dallas the Wanted poster, security stripping, obvious crossfire, ludicrous eliminatinon of the patsy--spiritual terror.

Physical terror: the president is publicly massacred in a murderous fussilade and a fluff panel of candy-asses calls it good.

No Communist will ever burn down the Reichstag again; we'll send it home.

The danger of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden is that they rip the sheep's clothing off the wolves of the security state:

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