The Head Wounds Revisited

[David Lifton]

[quote=Martin Hay]Paul O' Connor told Andy Purdy that the "pink shipping casket..arrived approximately eight o'clock." (ARRB MD64) He said the same thing to David Lifton (Best Evidence, paperback edition, p. 695), to Roger Feinman (Between the Signal and the Noise, chapter 6), and William Matson Law (In the Eye of History, p. 35).

Dennis David said in a telephone interview for the ARRB that he witnessed the arrival of a "gray shipping casket" at about 6:45 pm. He did not see the casket opened. (ARRB MD177)

Roger Feinman writes about Donald Rebentisch in chapter 6 of Between the Signal and the Noise:


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For Donald Rebentisch, a petty officer who was stationed at Bethesda on the night of the autopsy, there was no big secret. Rebentisch was studying dental and medical equipment repair at the hospital at the time. According to Rebentisch, two ambulances carrying two caskets were employed one of them empty and one with the body of Kennedy in a deliberate charade to slip the President's body into Bethesda Naval Hospital. Rebentisch says his commanding officers told him the secrecy was planned to avoid the media and other onlookers. The empty casket was brought in the frontdoor while the casket carrying Kennedy's body was driven in a 1958 Chevrolet hearse to the back of the hospital where medical officials were to perform an autopsy:

"It was about 4:30 p.m., when our chief petty officer came to me and about five other petty officers and told us to go to the back of the hospital. I'm talking about the loading ramps where they used to bring in supplies.

"He told all of us that we were going to be there and we were going to bring the President's casket into the mortuary. We were told not to leave our posts.

"The chief said we got all the … ghouls and reporters and the TV and everybody at the front of the hospital. He said there would be an empty casket in the ambulance. He said the President's body would really come in the back.

"This made sense to me. I felt there was nothing wrong with this. I just bought it, as did the rest of us."

Rebentisch said he and five other officers took the President's casket out of the black hearse and pushed it through a rear freight entrance, 35 or 40 minutes before another coffin was taken through a mass of reporters and photographers at the front door. "Rebentisch said he doubted most of Lifton's claims." (The Associated Press, January 23, 1981, AM Cycle) Robert Muma, who was a Bethesda staff dental technician, corroborated Rebentisch's account:

"There were two ambulances that came in. One was lighted. It came up to the front door. The second one they kept dark and it went around to the back. That was the one that had Kennedy in it. It was common knowledge that there were two caskets." (The Associated Press, January 23, 1981, AM Cycle)

Another of Rebentisch's associates, Paul Neigler, also corroborated the former petty officer's story. (United Press International, January 24, 1981, AM cycle)
[end quote]


The report of Marine Sgt. Roger Boyajian does not say that the casket he and his men picked up on the evening of November 22, 1963, contained the body of President Kennedy. Asked during a telephone interview for the ARRB "if he remembered the arrival of the President's casket" he said "no." (ARRB MD236)[/quote]

Martin Hay is trying real hard to wriggle out of the implications of the Boyajian report, but he won't succeed. The report is a critical historical document written four days after the event, and accurately records the arrival of JFK's body at the Bethesda morgue. After all, that's what Sgt. Boyajian was there for--he was the NCOIC (Non Commissioned Officer in Charge) of the Marine Security detail assigned to the morgue.

Let's back up a bit. . . and the place to start is with Bethesda medical technician Paul O'Connor.

O'CONNOR'S ACCOUNT

Paul O'Connor told me that the shipping casket was delivered to the morgue at 8 pm. In Chapter 26 of Best Evidence, I wrote: "Repeatedly during our conversation, O'Connor said he logged in the body at 8 p.m." I applied under the FOIA for the log; it was not to be found. Literally, it has disappeared.

O'Connor was clear that the body was received in a shipping casket-he said that to the Florida newspapers in 1979, he said it to the HSCA, and he said it to meboth in my August, 1979 telephone interview, and then on camera in October 1980. My conclusion: Paul O'Connor was wrong about the time. Its fruitless to speculate about how such an error may have occurredthe fact is that O'Connor was firm about the body bag, and firm about the type of casketand those events occurred after the 6:35 PM arrival of the shipping casket to the morgue. Remember: Dennis David and Donald Rebentisch were both witnesses to that arrival; Dennis David described it to me in vivid detail on July 2, 1979 (and his account is set forth in Chapter 25 of Best Evidence) and Donald Rebentisch described that same arrival when I interviewed him on January 23, 1981, within about 10 days of the publication of Best Evidence.

But let's go back to the issue of the time.

How do we know it was 6:35 PM? Here's why: because Sgt. Roger Boyajianthe NCOIC (non-commissioned officer in charge) was assigned to morgue. Boyajian headed the security detail sent to Bethesda Naval Hospital from the Marine Barracks in Washington, D.C. expressly for the purpose of providing security when JFK's body arrived; and then he wrote a report (on 11/26/63) specifying that time as "1835" (i.e., 6:35 PM). So that's how we know the time, but then there is the important corroboration from Dennis David.

Dennis David told me, when I first interviewed him in July, 1979, that the casket arrived "a good 20 minutes" before the naval ambulance arrived at the front. And he repeated that, on camera, when I conducted a filmed interview at his home in October, 1980. The sequence was "vivid" said David. The naval ambulance arrived at 6:53 PM (per the SS report) or 6:55 PM (per the account of the reporter who was there from the Washington Star). So based on Dennis David's statement(s) to meboth in my telephone interview of uly 2, 1979, and then on camera in October, 1980its pretty clear that the "time of arrival" of the casket that Dennis David saw being brought into the morgue entrance was 6:35 PM or 6:40 PM. Within minutes of that time.

The Boyajian report documents the arrival of that casket at 6:35 PM. Boyajian was the NCOIC (non-commissioned officer in charge) of the Marine Security Detail at the autopsy. He wrote his report on November 26, 1963, the day after Kennedy's funeral. It was typed and submitted on November 26, 1963, just four days after JFK's assassination (and one day after his funeral). The key statement in this report (which was about the security actions taken to safeguard President Kennedy's body and his autopsy) which so offends Martin Hay is wherein it states that JFK's body arrived at the Bethesda morgue at 1835 hours (6:35 PM civilian time), a full 20 minutes before the Andrews AFB motorcade carrying the bronze ceremonial Dallas casket arrived out in front of Bethesda Naval Hospital. So Martin Hay tries to get around this by saying that Boyajian didn't open the coffin and actually see the body. So what? He was there to provide securityand that's what he (and his group) did. Does Martin Hay believe that some "other body" at the morgue, and that Boyajian failed to note that? And so does Martin Hay believe that Boyajian filed a report mistakenly stating that Kennedy's body arrived at 6:35 PM (when it was not Kennedy's body)? Oh pleez, Martin. . get real.

But then there is more. . . because then came his after-action report, and how it came to the attention of the ARRB in 1997. Former Sergeant Boyajian possessed an onionskin carbon copy of his 1963 report. He then mailed a validated photocopy of that onionskin copy to the ARRB staff after being interviewed by Doug Horne on the phone in 1997. Anyone who knows anything about military correspondence in the early 1960s, in the age of manual typewriters, knows that onionskin copies were never signed. Only original documents were signed. As has been noted by another researcher: "The point here is that Boyajian himself was the source of the document, and validated it himself, both orally in a telephonic interview, and later in the cover letter by which he sent a copy of it to the ARRB."

Martin Hay tries to get around the implications of this critical document by writing: "Asked during a telephone interview for the ARRB "if he remembered the arrival of the President's casket" he said "no." (ARRB MD236)"

This is still another weak, if not silly, argument - -- - "The witness. . he did not remember " argument. . . :

If someone witnesses a crime and writes a report for the police four days later, and then suffers brain trauma from an automobile accident and can no longer remember details of the event 34 years later, this does not invalidate the report he wrote for the police immediately after the event! This is the equivalent of what you are trying to do here, and it is, quite frankly, a non-issue. Now if Boyajian had attempted, in 1997, to repudiate his earlier report, or deny its authenticity, THAT would have been significant and worthy of reporting. But no such thing happened; in fact, he authenticated the report.

The report stands, and cannot be invalidated by the author's faded memory 34 years after it was written.

Doug Horne himself wrote the ARRB staff call report following the telephonic interview of Boyajian in which he (Doug) explicitly stated that Boyajian could no longer remember specifics of the events of Nov 22nd, 1963but Boyajian made clear that he did supervise the detail from Marine Barracks, and the fact that he did prepare and submit to higher authority the after action report dated Nov 26th, 1963. Horne then personally placed in the Archives, in 1998, Boyajian's letter to the ARRB, claiming a bad memory, but also authenticating the copy of his report he provided to the ARRB.

Another point: Boyajian provided the document to the ARRB, and he authenticated it as what he prepared in November of 1963. That is all that really matters. The Boyajian report is a contemporaneous document of profound importance, that was both provided to the ARRB, and authenticated, by its author in 1997. It is of similar importance to the reports written by the treating physicians in Dallas at Parkland Hospital on Nov 22nd, 1963.

And still another point: The Boyajian document describes the same event witnessed by Navy men Dennis David and Donald Rebentisch - the unaccountably early arrival of JFK's body at Bethesda, 20 minutes prior to the arrival of the Dallas casket from Andrews AFB - thus proving that there was in fact a shell game going on with the President's body the night of his autopsy. This document, and the very consistent recollections of Dennis David ever since 1975, together prove a break in the chain of custody of President Kennedy's body, and also cause us to ask the truly important question: what was going on with President Kennedy's body between its arrival at Bethesda at 6:35 PM, and the second delivery of the Dallas casket (with JFK's body placed inside it again) by the Honor Guard at 8:00 PM?

Now let's examine closely what Commander Humes had to say about all this.

COMMANDER HUMES

Let's start with the Warren Commission, when Humes volunteered information implying that something else was going on:

Specter: tell us who else in a general way was present at the time the autopsy was conducted in addition to you three doctors, please?

Humes: "I must preface by saying it will be somewhat incomplete. My particular interest was on the examination of the president and not of the security measures of the other people who were present." (2 WCH 349)

Huh??

When testifying before the ARRB, Humes was asked: when did you first see the body? His answer: 6: 45 pm.

Here's the exact quote, from the ARRB transcript:

Q: Dr. Humes, when did you first see the body of President Kennedy?:

A: I didn't look at my watch, if I even had a watch on, but I would guess it was 6:45 or 7 o'clock, something like that, (pause) approximately.


Now let's try to recap: the arrival of the shipping casket at 6:35 PM (with JFK inside, per Dr. Boswell's affirmation to Dennis David); the first delivery of the bronze Dallas casket (empty) at 7:17 PM; and the second delivery of the Dallas casket (with JFK reintroduced into it, and escorted by the Honor Guard) at 8:00 PM, are all without doubt distinct, separate events because they were conducted by different actors, at different times. The shipping casket delivered at 6:35 PM (witnessed by Dennis David and written about by Boyajian four days later) was delivered in a black hearse, by men in suits, and taken into the morgue anteroom by Navy sailors; the empty Dallas casket was delivered to the morgue anteroom at 7:17 PM by two FBI agents and two Secret Service agents; and the Dallas casket was again delivered (this time with JFK placed back inside) at 8:00 PM by the Joint Service Casket Team (or Honor Guard). The implications of this charade are obvious and cannot be denied by anyone who is willing to consider all of the evidence, instead of just attempting to explain away the evidence that is "inconvenient" or "unpleasant" in its implications.

Martin Hay attacks the account of Donald Rebentisch,by saying: "Roger Feinman writes about Donald Rebentisch in chapter 6 of his book. . " to which I respond: "So what?" And "Who cares?" The main point is that, as reported by the wire services around January 24, 1981, Rebentisch corroborates the account given by Dennis David. (And then I interviewed Rebentisch that same week, and then interviewed him on camera around April, 1981).

I don't think there's any question but that President Kennedy's body was delivered to the Bethesda morgue at 6:35 PM, as noted in the Boyajian report, and as witnessed by Dennis David amd Donald Rebentisch. Neither person opened the coffin. Neither person saw the body. But inside the morgue was Paul O'Connorand he certainly saw what was inside that coffin.

The coffin was a shipping casket, and inside was a body bag. When he opened the body bag, there was President Kennedy's body.

What that means: that the coffin offloaded from Air Force One was empty; because the naval ambulance carrying the Dallas coffin arrived at the front of the hospital some 20 minutes later, at 6:53 (per the SS report) or 6:55 per the account of the Washington Star reporter who was present. That naval ambulance carried the large Dallas coffin that was offloaded from AF-1, after it came to a halt in front of the world's press at 6:04 PM PST. That's when the coffin was offloaded via a mechanical lift, at the rear port side--an event that was broadcast on national television. Then the coffin was placed in the naval ambulance, and then Jackie and Bobby debarked, and got into that embulance, which left Andrews at 6:10 PM EST, and arrived at Bethesda at 6:53 or 6:55 PM.

If the body was delivered to Bethesda at 6:35 PM, then that coffin--offloaded from AF-1--was empty.

DSL
6/17/13; 3:30 AM PDT
Los Angeles, California

[David Lifton]

If there was any good stuff in Kaleidoscope, and there was, one thing was Harry's clearing up what the stuff that Horne was trying to say about the whole Boyajian Report.

That was not JFK's coffin.

And Boyajian did not say it was. And that report was not really a report.

Because it was unsigned by anyone. IF it was JFK's coffin it would have been.

DSL REPONSE TO Jim DiEugenio's Commentary on Harrison Livingstone's Goofy Book--Kaleidoscope

These assertions are unfounded, and in fact absurd. Only in the fevered imagination of Harrison Livingstone was "another body" delivered to the Bethesda morgue.

When I interviewed James Jenkins on camera in October, 1980, I was quite aware that Jenkins was aware that there was a "second coffin" (i.e., the large bronze coffin from Dallas) just outside the main area of the morgue. I asked Jenkins what he thought that was, and he told me what he had been told--that that was an officer who was to be buried at Arlington the next day. Of course, I had already checked this out--because it came up in our 1979 telephone interview--and I told him that there were no burials at Arlington on Saturday, November 23, 1963. I then told Jenkins what was in fact the case: that that was the Dallas coffin. The camera was running, and I have his entire reaction, and some dialogue, preserved on camera. (It is a sight to see).

Now, flash forward some 10 -12 years. Along comes Harrison Livingstone and convinces Jenkins that there was a body in wnat was in fact the Dallas coffin, and the next thing we know, Jenkins is claiming that coffin was actually opened and he saw the body of some officer propped up, and in a sitting position! This is exactly why I don't trust Livingstone, as an investigator, and why I feel sorry for the very suggestible James Jenkins, who told me what he had been told, but then was somehow induced (by H.L.) to completely change his story to an account of what he had supposedly seen (!).

Remember: this is the guy that left death threats on my telephone answering machine, and sued me for $50M (in 2002) claiming I was part of a plot to kill him.

DSL
6/17/13; 3:50 AM PDT
Los Angeles, California

[Martin Hay]

No amount of huffing and puffing will change the FACT that Roger Boyajian's report does NOT say that the casket he and his men picked up contained the body of President Kennedy. Nor the FACT that he did NOT recall the arrival of Kennedy's casket.

Nor the FACT that Dennis David had no personal knowledge of who was in the grey casket he thought arrived at approximately 6:45 pm.

Nor the FACT that Paul O'Connor said that he helped lift Kennedy's body out of a casket that he said arrived at 8:00 pm.

Nor the FACT that Donald Rebenstich, Robert Muma, and Paul Neigler all said that two caskets were employed as a security measure.

Those are the FACTS that no objections, regardless of how needlessly verbose they are, can change. Those of us who care about the truth and are not committed to untenable theories will accept them. Others will warp, twist, and spin those FACTS in order to make them fit their preconceived conclusions. They are not to be taken seriously.

[David Lifton]

No amount of huffing and puffing will change the FACT that Roger Boyajian's report does NOT say that the casket he and his men picked up contained the body of President Kennedy. Nor the FACT that he did NOT recall the arrival of Kennedy's casket.

Nor the FACT that Dennis David had no personal knowledge of who was in the grey casket he thought arrived at approximately 6:45 pm.

Nor the FACT that Paul O'Connor said that he helped lift Kennedy's body out of a casket that he said arrived at 8:00 pm.

Nor the FACT that Donald Rebenstich, Robert Muma, and Paul Neigler all said that two caskets were employed as a security measure.

Those are the FACTS that no objections, regardless of how needlessly verbose they are, can change. Those of us who care about the truth and are not committed to untenable theories will accept them. Others will warp, twist, and spin those FACTS in order to make them fit their preconceived conclusions. They are not to be taken seriously.

Martin Hay:

Unfortunately, Martin, the "facts" you prefer are filtered through a prism of intense personal animus towards me and my work, and it is you who are doing the "huffing and puffing":

Roger Boyajian's security detail was requested to report to the morgue to handle the arrival of JFK's body. So who's coffin are you attempting to imply was delivered to Bethesda at 6:35 PM EST, and which was the subject of his reportthat of Mickey Mouse?

Dennis David repeatedly said to me that the coffin arrived "a good 20 minutes" before the naval ambulance so that is 6:35 PM (not 6:45 PM, Martin. Do the math, Martin. It will be good mental exercise: 6:55 PM 20 minutes = 6:35 PM. And that's what the Boyajian report specifies as the time of arrival. That's called "corroboration" --in case you have forgotten the meaning of that word.

Paul O'Connor lifted a body out of the shipping casket that arrived at 6:35 PM. That's the preponderance of the evidence. Only in your peculiar world does the shipping casket arrive at 8 PM. What do you think Dr. Humes was looking at when he saw the body arrive at 6:45 PM, Martin? Do you think he was caught up in a time warp? And it was really 8PM?

Yes, Martinthe word "security measure" was in fact used. Dennis David told me all that, on July 2, 1979, when I interviewed him. The agents who arrived in the black hearse said they were employed in using a security measure "in case someone tried to hijack the body."

Only the credulous can fail to see the irony and black humor in that, coming from the men who were delivering JFK's body to the morgue, in a body bag, which was inside that shipping casket!

I think your kind of "argument", Martin, would better be articulated on Saturday Night Live, than in a serious discussion of the evidence pertaining to the assassination of President Kennedy.

DSL
6/17/13, 5 AM PDT
Los Angeles, California

[Albert Doyle]

I think Lifton has safely made his case and those challenging him are using the tactic of absolute evidence. A tactic similar to that used by the worst deniers like David Von Pein. Rebenstich said the aluminum shipping casket contained JFK and that they were told a switch was being made. Meanwhile if we impose the same absolute standard on the doubters, they have failed to produce who exactly was in that casket if not JFK?


If you'll notice pre-autopsy doubters stay away from Dennis David's claim that Pitzer pulled him in to his office and showed him isolated film frame slides of wounds other than those shown at the official autopsy. Since we know these wounds were not present at the official 8 o'clock autopsy they had to be present at another event where Pitzer managed to capture them on camera. I highly doubt that Dennis David decided to go nuts and fabricate this witnessing. Some call for only looking at facts. Well, what about Dennis David?


A military guard is probably protocol at any presidential assassination. However in this case the various coffin carriers were used in an act of subterfuge. Does anyone know exactly how many press and onlookers there were at Bethesda? I doubt there was a surging crowd. It seems obvious to me that the reason why this switch wasn't exposed and admitted is because it involved a covert pre-autopsy those who participated in don't want to admit. I'm sorry but I'll take the word of Dan Marvin and Dennis David over the doubters.

[Dawn Meredith]

As attested to by the FBI agents and other witnesses as well, the primary focus of the autopsists appeared to be locating bullets. They seemed genuinely befuddled when they couldn't find any. If they had been the ones to remove the bullets, they were acting was as good as their lying and they have proven to be pretty poor liars. The main reason for the military autopsy IMO, was the fact that Oswald was in custody and awaiting trial. This meant evidence needed to stand up in court and the prosectors could be liable to perjury This was not a part of the original plan. Had Oswald been spirited away and eliminated as planned, it really wouldn't have mattered how many shooters there were, or from what direction they were shooting. As long as Oswald, agent of Castro was identified as one of them, and could supply no rebuttal, the plan was intact. Once Oswald was murdered on Sun. morning they could pretty much say whatever they liked, and they did. They didn't need to alter the body it's not like it was going to be hauled into court. Just their testimony, XRays and photos. Much easier to fake than an actual body. I wish some one could show me creditable evidence that Kennedy's body was in a body bag in a shipping casket at 6:35. Sibert and O'Neil said they assisted in removing the presiden'ts body from the ceremonial casket immediately after they helped carry it into the morgue, and before they were sent out, while X Rays were to be taken.

I read Best Evidence when it was first released. In the beginning it seemed like a major development in the case. My sole criticism at the time was that the book was way too long and contained way too much ego.
Later I came to the conclusion that it was the autopsy photos, etc. that had been altered. That made a whole lot more sense for all the reasons stated here.

Dawn

[Tracy Riddle]

I agree, Dawn. Best Evidence was my first introduction to the constantly-changing official accounts of JFK's wounds in the days/weeks/months after 11/22, and overall I think the book has a lot of good information.

I honestly don't know what happened regarding the Bethesda-related events, and at this point we may never know because the record is so muddied.

[Martin Hay]

[size=12]Lifton writes: Martin, the "facts" you prefer are filtered through a prism of intense personal animus towards me and my work, and it is you who are doing the "huffing and puffing"


Filtered "through an intense personal animus" by whom? Certainly not by me. I feel absolutely nothing about you one way or the other hence the reason why, when you sent me a personal message simply to insult me after I quit the Ed forum, I felt no compulsion to respond. Your daft theories, however, have done damage to to the truth, helped undo much of the good work done by early critics of the Warren Commission, and made it easy for critics of the official story to be lumped in with moon hoaxers and holocaust deniers. So I will continue to show how factually corrupt your work is, and how little basis your ludicrous hypotheses have in fact, in order to help set the record straight.


Lifton writes: "Roger Boyajian's security detail was requested to report to the morgue to handle the arrival of JFK's body. So who's coffin are you attempting to imply was delivered to Bethesda at 6:35 PM EST, and which was the subject of his reportthat ofMickey Mouse?"


I'm not implying anything, I'm merely stating the facts. You may have trouble separating theory from fact but I don't. Boyajian's report does NOT say that the casket he and his men picked up contained the body of President Kennedy. And he did NOT recall the arrival of Kennedy's casket. Those are the FACTS. Additionally, as Jim DiEugenio correctly pointed out, "Bethesda is also a morgue. It did not stop being so just because Kennedy was being transported there that day. Other military men died that day"


Lifton writes: "Dennis David repeatedly said to me that the coffin arrived "a good 20 minutes" before the naval ambulance so that is 6:35 PM (not 6:45 PM, Martin. Do the math, Martin. It will be good mental exercise: 6:55 PM 20 minutes = 6:35 PM."


From ARRB MD177, Call Report Summarizing 2/14/97 Telephonic Interview of Dennis David: "He then got his own duty sailors together, borrowed some more from the dental school, and assembled them outside the morgue at the loading dock by about 6:40 P.M. Five or six minutes later, at about 6:45, he said a black hearse drove up to the loading dock...the Navy sailors (approximately 7 or 8 people) working for him offloaded the casket which was in the hearse. He said it was a simple, gray shipping casket such as he frequently saw used later during the Vietnam war." Your problem is with David, not with me.


Lifton writes: "Paul O'Connor lifted a body out of the shipping casket that arrived at 6:35 PM. That's the preponderanceof the evidence."


According to you, NOT according to Paul O'Connor. Which one of you was there? And, of course, when you say "preponderance of the evidence" you mean Dennis David's story which, given that he had no personal knowledge of who was in the casket he saw, is not all that weighty and doesn't offer much support for your erroneous claim that Kennedy's body arrived when you wish it did.


Lifton writes: "Yes, Martinthe word "security measure"was in fact used."


No need for further comment.

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[Albert Rossi]

I agree, Dawn. Best Evidence was my first introduction to the constantly-changing official accounts of JFK's wounds in the days/weeks/months after 11/22, and overall I think the book has a lot of good information.

I honestly don't know what happened regarding the Bethesda-related events, and at this point we may never know because the record is so muddied.

Tracy, you have succinctly stated what I guess all my much more prolix posts have been trying to.

[Albert Doyle]

Phil noted that the X-Rays were already on their way to being developed as the bronze casket arrived. Rebentisch said they were told Kennedy's body was switched into another casket.



To me, anyway, there's a Hitchcock-like resolution to all this if you simply pay attention to Commander Pitzer's job description as Audio Visual Department chief at Bethesda. We know Pitzer was called in that evening to what was Bethesda's single-most important autopsy. We also know Pitzer had installed remote filming equipment in the autopsy room. It would make sense that CIA screwed-up in their rush to alter the wounds and didn't realize Pitzer was doing his duty filming the pre-autopsy. In fact Pitzer probably had no idea he was filming a covert autopsy at the time. Just like Sgt Vinson those who participated probably never realized they had an unknown witness amongst them. Dennis David was very clear that Pitzer showed him an entry wound in the right front. David said that Pitzer was busy assembling extracted frames to show wounds other than those officially claimed.

Notice that each and every person who challenges Lifton never once attempts to address this.