Preparations & Ideas for the 50th

[Phil Dragoo]

The objection raised, that that was a long time ago, what difference can it make now

In a dusty factory corner I slid open a drawing board drawer and withdrew the yellowed card

Kierkegaard our friend to remind that always living forward never seeing, only in reverse

I saw the broken glass in the aftermath of Ayers and Dohrn, saw the Justice lawyers with their rictus grins, flipping off the ruddy-banded Maoists

Leaving for Taos in a minibus by the cemetary in Santa Fe Ginsberg bear on hind legs-like roaring at the window

Snowden is giving his life for this; Hastings had his taken

Unless I'm mistaken, the crowds can't hear a thing

Every day I find myself looking someone in the eyes and fronting them--just by the by--

--we'll get the smack from Burma thanks to historic visits by Obama and Hillary

Lean is made with Robitussin, Arizona Watermelon Drink and Skittles

Syria will pit the U.S. proxy Muslim Brotherhood against the Russian- and Iranian-backed regime

and doesn't it seem we continue to generate sink holes for arms to make them cornucopias for drugs and oil?

Is there a magic dopamine to effect a brief window of lucidness

What is the mass medium for this antidote to ignorance

It's nice when someone says, oh, I didn't know that

What led to that--let's bottle it, oh, but wait

It was just you talking to a friend who

Let you in side the gates raised

the shutters on the slit

in their armored

conning

tower

And if a Norman Mailer tries to tell you we were in Vietnam because of machismo

slay him with tales of a naysayer slain--so much they know that isn't so

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[Vasilios Vazakas]

Gaeton Gonzi gave a speech in 1998 titled "We Know the Truth" that is also included in John Kelin's site
Fifty.

Fonzi closed his speech with the following pledge:


It's time we climbed into our own ring. That's what our future demands. Our future as researchers demands that we abandon our posture as explorers of a mystery and assume the role as re-enforcers of the foundation of truth. That, after all, is what most of us have been about. Now from this distance, these thirty-five years from that awful day, we can now clearly know what we believed from the beginning. Now we know the truth.

Let us shift the focus of the American people, let us lead the American people away from believing the truth to knowing the truth. And we can do this if we are persistent and steadfast in proclaiming the truth. This, I suggest, should be our challenging cry for the future:
We know who killed President Kennedy.
Why don't you?

Shouldn't we choose this cry as our motto for the 50th anniversary?


Now we know the truth.
We know who killed President Kennedy.
Why don't you?

[Charles Drago]

Gaeton Gonzi gave a speech in 1998 titled "We Know the Truth" that is also included in John Kelin's site
Fifty.

Fonzi closed his speech with the following pledge:


"It's time we climbed into our own ring."

Well past the time, actually.

Although it should be noted that some would object to Gaeton's use of the patois of the prizefighter.

[Fonzi said,] "Let us shift the focus of the American people, let us lead the American people away from believing the truth to knowing the truth. And we can do this if we are persistent and steadfast in proclaiming the truth. This, I suggest, should be our challenging cry for the future:

"We know who killed President Kennedy.

"Why don't you?"

Shouldn't we choose this cry as our motto for the 50th anniversary?

We should.

Indeed, we must.

For those of us who knew Gaeton Fonzi and who continue to respect and cherish his memory, it is simply impossible to stomach the calls of certain latecomers to abandon our shared responsibility to lead and instead to meekly "agree to disagree" with the enemy.

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

Raising the political cost..... We need to openly make the issue of a publication's credibility an issue, if they go ahead and publish sewage. If we just note how bad it is to ourselves, it does not matter. We need to let them know "if you do this , it is going to have a political cost"

How will that cost be created? It depends on how widely you copy and paste it and WHERE you decide to copy and paste it. I am a member of over 100 FB groups. Sometimes I post something on most of those groups. What if 4 more people did that? Then you are talking exponential impact.

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Dear SLATE:

Mistake or disinformation? Given the context I lean towards disinformation.

"First of all, the main point about Carolyn Arnold's submerged story is not that it was apparently never given to the Warren Commission. Its not even that it tends to be exculpatory of Oswald. Rosenbaum notes those aspects. The key point about Arnold is this: The FBI changed her statement. In other words, they altered evidence in a murder case. When Anthony Summers interviewed Arnold in 1978, five years before Rosenbaum's article appeared, she was immediately taken aback by what the report said. The FBI had written that, from outside the depository, she "thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of Lee Harvey Oswald standing in the hallway". (Summers, Conspiracy, p. 77) Before Summers could even describe why her statement was important, the witness insisted this was not what she told the Bureau. First, she knew Oswald since he had come to her more than once for change. Secondly, she did not catch a glimpse of him from outside. At about 12:15 or later, she went into the lunchroom on the second floor and saw Oswald sitting in one of the booth seats on the right side of the room. Pretty nonchalant behavior for a murderer planning to be upstairs on the sixth floor in about five minutes setting up his boxes as a barricade, piecing together his rifle, loading a magazine, and lining up his target."-- CTKA, Ron Rosenbaum Fires The First Salvo..

[Magda Hassan]

Do you have a link to the Slate article?

[Phil Dragoo]

[URL="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_spectator/2013/04/new_evidence_links_the_cases_of_kim_philby_and_lee_harvey_oswald_in_fascinating.html"]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...ating.html[/URL]

Jim DiEugenio on above-linked article:

http://ctka.net/2013/rosenbaum.html

Phil's footnote:

I've spent a considerable amount of time exploring both enigmas. I thought that in my 12,000-word Philby investigation for the New York Times Magazine some time ago, I had exhausted the number of mysteries Philby set afoot with his double (or triple?) dealing. And I've written frequently on JFK theories, recurrently changing my mind on that morass of mystification; to my current belief Oswald was a shooter, though not ruling out the possibility of a second one, or silent confederates egging Oswald on to do the deed. But what an amazing legacy of paranoia he's left us, what a vast spectrum of theories that seems to keep growing, concatenating.

Oh, there you have it. No need for twelve more words, let alone, 12,000. The author, having left his orchids to convince us he's thought it all six ways over a brandy, leaves us to ponder concatenating.

If we should hear a loud popping sound, it'll be our Ron pulling his head out of his concatenator.

[Jim Hackett II]

"If we should hear a loud popping sound, it'll be our Ron pulling his head out of his concatenator." :rofl:

It just goes to show Ya gotta be a spirit, ya cain't be no ghost.

The ghost on the stairs nobody saw or heard.
The ghost with the carbine that was not.
The ghost that did and didn't speak Russian.
Too damn many spooks in this fable for the MSM to keep trying to scare me with ghost stories.

[Jeff Carter]

Len just pointed this out to me - JFK Facts has Black Op Radio listed in its short list of "Worst JFK Sites", which readers can vote on, while the John McAdams site is short listed in its "Best Sites" list.
http://jfkfacts.org/whats-the-worst-jfk-web-site/

[Jim Hackett II]

About page of This crap: 9unedited segment there of)<br>
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JFK Facts (JFKfacts.org) seeks to become the premier Web destination for hiqh-quality information about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.<br>
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We will fact-check news stories, blogs, YouTube videos, books, and movies about the JFK assassination with the goal of dispelling confusion and establishing an accurate historical record.<br>
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We answer questions for high school and college students, as well as the general public.<br>
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<a href="http://jfkfacts.org/about/" mailto:info@jfkfacts.org"="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Email us</a> with your suggestions, comments, and complaints.<br>
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The site is a repository of memories of life and death of President John F. Kennedy and discussion of its meaning.<br>
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The moderator is <u><em><strong>Jefferson Morley</strong></em></u>, former Washington Post reporter and author of <em>Our Man in Mexico; Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA. </em><br>
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The webmaster is <strong><em><u>Rex Bradford</u></em></strong>, creator of <a href="http://www.maryferrell.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">MaryFerrell.org</a>, the most comprehensive Web site of government records on the assassination of JFK, Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King.<br>
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We are looking for <a href="http://jfkfacts.org/contributors/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">informed, civil contributors</a>.<br>
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Our <a href="http://jfkfacts.org/comment-policy/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">comment policy.</a><br>
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Evidently my comments are edited before being posted. BS.<br>
3 times this has been posted. TRUTH WILL OUT.<br>
3 times it was edited by someone to only the above.<br>I guess the NSA really doesn't want "us" to hear Black Op Radio where LN fables go to DIE.<br>
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I thank Mr. Bradford for the History Matters site.<br>
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I have pegged Mr. Morley as another limited hangout artist.<img src="images/smilies/nono.gif" alt="" title="nono" smilieid="155" class="inlineimg" border="0"><br>
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Since 2000 Len Osanic has done better work with Black Op Radio.<br>
Ms. Jean Hill, and Mr. Jack White and witnesses and authors interviewed and available to enjoy.<br>
I suspect this is a response of the Wurlitzer to the FANTASTIC "50 Reason for 50 Years" video series.<br>
It wrecks the fables and exposes assets and ops around the 63 Coup with precision.<br>
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I'll take the work of Fiasco Brothers over that crap.<br>
Thanks Jeff and Len.

[Jim Hackett II]

About page of This crap: (unedited segment there of)

"JFK Facts (JFKfacts.org) seeks to become the premier Web destination for hiqh-quality information about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
We will fact-check news stories, blogs, YouTube videos, books, and movies about the JFK assassination with the goal of dispelling confusion and establishing an accurate historical record.
We answer questions for high school and college students, as well as the general public.
http://jfkfacts.org/about/" mailto:info@jfkfacts.org Email us with your suggestions, comments, and complaints.
The site is a repository of memories of life and death of President John F. Kennedy and discussion of its meaning.
The moderator is Jefferson Morley, former Washington Post reporter and author of Our Man in Mexico; Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA.
The webmaster is Rex Bradford, creator of "http://www.maryferrell.org" MaryFerrell., the most comprehensive Web site of government records on the assassination of JFK, Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
We are looking for informed, civil contributors
Our comment-policy.

Evidently my comments are edited before being posted. BS.
3 times this has been posted. TRUTH WILL OUT.
3 times it was edited by someone to only the above.
I guess the NSA really doesn't want "us" to hear Black Op Radio where LN fables go to DIE.

I thank Mr. Bradford for the History Matters site.
I have pegged Mr. Morley as another limited hangout artist. A suit against CIA for show only.

Since 2000 Len Osanic has done better work with Black Op Radio.
Ms. Jean Hill, and Mr. Jack White and witnesses and authors interviewed and available to enjoy.
I suspect this is a response of the Wurlitzer to the FANTASTIC "50 Reason for 50 Years" video series.

It wrecks the fables and exposes assets and ops around the 63 Coup with precision.
I'll take the work of Fiasco Brothers over that brand x crap.
Thanks Jeff and Len.