14-07-2015, 10:40 AM
(This post was last modified: 14-07-2015, 11:26 AM by Tom Scully.)
Mr. Hargrove, I do not plan to post again about the SH Landesberg controversy, except perhaps on the narrow area
of medical disorder symptoms. Replying to your concerns about the FBI "handling" of the case, I interpret it in a broad angle about like this. It is 29 November, six days after the first FBI encounter with Rizutto, and "he" cannot be found for the purpose of follow up questioning. I have no way of knowing how high of a priority investigating Rizzuto further, was, or of the weight of the details he had provided on 23 November, (after LHO's death) as the days went by. I take into account that nothing could be verified, none of the names provided by Rizutto were found to exist..... no military service records, passport records, responses from post offices, including in Wiggins, MS, and on the 24th Ruby had murdered LHO.
By the 29th, there is support for, and I already posted a source describing it, that field agents had been working long hours, including through the weekend of the 23rd and 24th. I produced an FBI document reporting that both WMCA news directer Roger Turner and radio personality Barry Gray had been shown, on the 29th, a photo of L'eandes. We know what the FBI reported their mutual reaction to the photo was, with regard to Rizzuto.
Everything is consistent from the morning of Nov. 23, on, considering what the FBI reports contain. Rizzuto details names, places, relationships, his own and involving LHO. Nothing pans out, and the USMC records sources are reported to have been less than helpful in response to both the names Perry and Felde. I've recounted the lack of ANY verifying details coming in that could be built on. The photo Identification reported coming from Turner and Gray on the 29th surely contributed to a slowdown, but the investigation continued with some, but waning intensity, understandable with Rizzuto unaccounted for and again, no actionable verifying input to any inquiry stemming from Rizzuto's facts.
On the 29th, the case is headed understandably for criminal investigation of Rizzuto, not surprising after the photo ID's reportedly from Turner and Gray.
On the 5th of December, the FBI has recently discharged USMC private Stephen Harris Landes and his medical record, and a reported confession from he that he also was the origin of the L'eandes and the Rizzuto personalities.
So, everything seems consistent, criticize it at will, and if it amounts to FBI reports full of serial fakery, they did a passable job of having it seem consistent, justified, sequential steps, at least to me.
So here is the detailed Landes USMC medical record.: http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...1&tab=page
I've spent some time matching the symptoms, although Landes's mother downplayed the stuttering, as if it her son had outgrown that symptom.
So I do not have to reply later, I know.....it's only a movie.:
Fascinating case, if this is what it is all about. Very difficult to diagnose dissociative identity disorder, even today, if Landes(berg) was misdiagnosed in 1960-61.
I hope some of my contribution in this controversy is considered helpful to you at some point. In the meantime,
consider that I take the details and you disagree with my giving what the government investigators present, a place at the table until I can determine otherwise, consider that I do deliver results that stand up to loud protests, on several occasions. Also, you cannot type me. I am only predictable in that I try not to work against myself, my research efforts. I've proven that Priscilla took Marina to Sedona, AZ in late '64, picked up in Dallas and driven to AZ by a friend (mistaken in AZ, for the two ladys' bodyguard, Jerre Hasty aka Hastings was the spouse of Clark McAdams Clifford's aunt, Marguerite Bowman McAdams) of Priscilla's cousin, David Coit Davenport, described by Sam Ballen in his book as a "CIA man." Davenport shielded Marina and Priscilla from inquiring news media, at his Santa Fe home during the weeks before and after the WCR release was anticipated.
.: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.1525293 :
Marina, Jerome "Jerre" Allen Hasty aka Hastings, uncle by marriage of Clark M. Clifford, and Priscilla Mary Post Johnson.....
David Davenport married the daughter of the first OSS commander of the London post, promoted on orders from Col. Ellery C. Huntington :
MISS EL BREWER WED IN ELMSFORD; She Is Attended by Seven...
‎
New York Times - Dec 20, 1942
19 -- The marriage of Miss Effie Leighton Brewer, daughter of Major George Emerson Brewer, US.., and IVLrs. Brewer of this place to David Coit Davenport, son of Mrs. 1VfcHarg Davenport of Santa Fe, 1. ... of Hastings Owing to the absence of her father, who is serving overseas, the bride was and Eunice Johnson of Mill Neck, LI, a cousin of the bridegroom.
7/T66 Doo 1546, con't. Interviews with Marina, pp. 229-49, inc. 9/8 [B]...[/B]
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She and Priscilla Johnson stayed at Santa Fe with a relative of. Miss Johnsons named Davenport and Declan Ford advised that anyone wantingnto speak
"Davenport" was the son-in-law of George E. Brewer, Jr. Brewer was appointed interim chief of OSS Europe by the Lt. Col. assigned by Bill Donovan to go to London in early 1943 to establish coordinationwith the British SOE:
Sisterhood of Spies - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/books/first/m/mcintosh-sisterhood.html
When he applied for a job in January 1942, forty-eight-year old Ellery C. Huntington Jr. hoped for an overseas assignment, possibly behind enemy lines.
From 1933, Huntington, Jr. was a co-trustee of Equity Corp. with David Milton. Huntington, Jr. retired as Equity Corp. Chairman in 1958. (V.P. was Walter Dornberger.....Bell Helicopter division of Equity Corp.)
Plaintiff suing Hasty and Davenport in 1965 was presidential advisor Clark Clifford's first cousin :
You do not know me, but I am open to results oriented research. I hope you find this example, thought provoking.
I cannot dismiss that Priscilla and her first cousin, Davenport may have been acting at the direction of the permanent government, of which I am convinced Clifford was a member. His uncle employed James Phelan at the Alton Telegraph during Phelan's first decade in the newspaper business. Who can forget this?:
Who ya gonna call, to while away the hours on the days after, on the first full day of your sudden ascension to POTUS?
Priscilla's father died suddenly in 1969. The man who reported him missing to police was a cousin of Allen Dulles.:
https://archive.is/o/esTuB/http://www.ma...lPageId=42
http://archive.is/esTuB
of medical disorder symptoms. Replying to your concerns about the FBI "handling" of the case, I interpret it in a broad angle about like this. It is 29 November, six days after the first FBI encounter with Rizutto, and "he" cannot be found for the purpose of follow up questioning. I have no way of knowing how high of a priority investigating Rizzuto further, was, or of the weight of the details he had provided on 23 November, (after LHO's death) as the days went by. I take into account that nothing could be verified, none of the names provided by Rizutto were found to exist..... no military service records, passport records, responses from post offices, including in Wiggins, MS, and on the 24th Ruby had murdered LHO.
By the 29th, there is support for, and I already posted a source describing it, that field agents had been working long hours, including through the weekend of the 23rd and 24th. I produced an FBI document reporting that both WMCA news directer Roger Turner and radio personality Barry Gray had been shown, on the 29th, a photo of L'eandes. We know what the FBI reported their mutual reaction to the photo was, with regard to Rizzuto.
Everything is consistent from the morning of Nov. 23, on, considering what the FBI reports contain. Rizzuto details names, places, relationships, his own and involving LHO. Nothing pans out, and the USMC records sources are reported to have been less than helpful in response to both the names Perry and Felde. I've recounted the lack of ANY verifying details coming in that could be built on. The photo Identification reported coming from Turner and Gray on the 29th surely contributed to a slowdown, but the investigation continued with some, but waning intensity, understandable with Rizzuto unaccounted for and again, no actionable verifying input to any inquiry stemming from Rizzuto's facts.
On the 29th, the case is headed understandably for criminal investigation of Rizzuto, not surprising after the photo ID's reportedly from Turner and Gray.
On the 5th of December, the FBI has recently discharged USMC private Stephen Harris Landes and his medical record, and a reported confession from he that he also was the origin of the L'eandes and the Rizzuto personalities.
So, everything seems consistent, criticize it at will, and if it amounts to FBI reports full of serial fakery, they did a passable job of having it seem consistent, justified, sequential steps, at least to me.
So here is the detailed Landes USMC medical record.: http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...1&tab=page
I've spent some time matching the symptoms, although Landes's mother downplayed the stuttering, as if it her son had outgrown that symptom.
So I do not have to reply later, I know.....it's only a movie.:
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Oct 31, 2014 - Also, the "host" personality has a weird fake stutter to it. ... but based on what i know about it they could be just faking for some reason. a lot of ...
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Aug 14, 2011 - I am twenty and have had a stutter since I could speak. ... I also don't stutter while singing or speaking in a weird fake voice. Edit #1: Don't ...
Fascinating case, if this is what it is all about. Very difficult to diagnose dissociative identity disorder, even today, if Landes(berg) was misdiagnosed in 1960-61.
I hope some of my contribution in this controversy is considered helpful to you at some point. In the meantime,
consider that I take the details and you disagree with my giving what the government investigators present, a place at the table until I can determine otherwise, consider that I do deliver results that stand up to loud protests, on several occasions. Also, you cannot type me. I am only predictable in that I try not to work against myself, my research efforts. I've proven that Priscilla took Marina to Sedona, AZ in late '64, picked up in Dallas and driven to AZ by a friend (mistaken in AZ, for the two ladys' bodyguard, Jerre Hasty aka Hastings was the spouse of Clark McAdams Clifford's aunt, Marguerite Bowman McAdams) of Priscilla's cousin, David Coit Davenport, described by Sam Ballen in his book as a "CIA man." Davenport shielded Marina and Priscilla from inquiring news media, at his Santa Fe home during the weeks before and after the WCR release was anticipated.
.: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.1525293 :
Marina, Jerome "Jerre" Allen Hasty aka Hastings, uncle by marriage of Clark M. Clifford, and Priscilla Mary Post Johnson.....
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Samuel B. Ballen - 2001 - ‎Snippet view
From Harlem to the End of the Santa Fe Trail Samuel B. Ballen. Lilienthal (no ... David Davenport was a former CIA man who had become disenchanted and was now semi-retired to his youthful locus of Santa Fe. He had remarried the ...
(page 10)
"...His career encompassed a number of fields, from intelligence to law to.....
David Davenport married the daughter of the first OSS commander of the London post, promoted on orders from Col. Ellery C. Huntington :
MISS EL BREWER WED IN ELMSFORD; She Is Attended by Seven...
‎
New York Times - Dec 20, 1942
19 -- The marriage of Miss Effie Leighton Brewer, daughter of Major George Emerson Brewer, US.., and IVLrs. Brewer of this place to David Coit Davenport, son of Mrs. 1VfcHarg Davenport of Santa Fe, 1. ... of Hastings Owing to the absence of her father, who is serving overseas, the bride was and Eunice Johnson of Mill Neck, LI, a cousin of the bridegroom.
7/T66 Doo 1546, con't. Interviews with Marina, pp. 229-49, inc. 9/8 [B]...[/B]
jfk.hood.edu/Collection/.../N%20Disk/.../Item%2018.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
She and Priscilla Johnson stayed at Santa Fe with a relative of. Miss Johnsons named Davenport and Declan Ford advised that anyone wantingnto speak
"Davenport" was the son-in-law of George E. Brewer, Jr. Brewer was appointed interim chief of OSS Europe by the Lt. Col. assigned by Bill Donovan to go to London in early 1943 to establish coordinationwith the British SOE:
Sisterhood of Spies - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/books/first/m/mcintosh-sisterhood.html
When he applied for a job in January 1942, forty-eight-year old Ellery C. Huntington Jr. hoped for an overseas assignment, possibly behind enemy lines.
From 1933, Huntington, Jr. was a co-trustee of Equity Corp. with David Milton. Huntington, Jr. retired as Equity Corp. Chairman in 1958. (V.P. was Walter Dornberger.....Bell Helicopter division of Equity Corp.)
Plaintiff suing Hasty and Davenport in 1965 was presidential advisor Clark Clifford's first cousin :
Quote:http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/35602601/
... the plaintiff of buing mentally ill and recom mended that judicial proceedings ... pick Aliss McAdams further states in her complaint she up ran into the rear of.....
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and she was transported to the State Hospital at Las Vegas, where she was incarcerated from July 28, 1965 to August 15, 1965.
The Plaintiff states in her complaint that Dr. Bram-antl issued a false and malicious medical report "ac-cusing the plaintiff of being mentally ill," and recommended that "judicial proceedings be instituted against the plaintiff.
plaintiff Further the complaint states was held incommunicado five days was refused a lawyer which she had requested and that medication was forced on her against her will Leon the complaint says was induced by the other and conspired with them to trick the plaintiff into signing a voluntary commitment paper on Aug 12 A hearing was held before Judge James M Scar borough says without her knowledge or presence When she left hospital Aug 15 the release form stated die h been admitted lo the hospital on July 28 as n patient The woman stated in her complaint was not able to obtain legal counsel dial certain records and dockets wort missing thai James E Thomson gave her false and misleading information on the recommendation of Norman M assistant district attorney Finally when plaintiff went to the Grand Jury.....
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the case against congress - Page 309
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jack anderson - 1968 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
... Senator Estes Kefauver produced the occasion for another of Clifford's rare public appearances for a client. It was a duty that Clifford could not shirk his client, the William Douglas McAdams drug advertising firm, was founded by his uncle.
In 1964, and possibly as far back as in the 1940's, Jerre Hastings/ Hasty
was the second husband of Clark Clifford's aunt, Marguerite Bowman McAdams
of Winnetka, IL.
1940 U.S. Census snippet of a household in New Trier (Winnetka)Illinois:
Obituary 1 -- No Title
Chicago Tribune - Aug 16, 1954
RIES William Douglas McAdims Services for William Doug- las McAdams, 67, of 734 Lin- coln av., Wlnnetka, who died Saturday in his home, will be held at 10 am Wednesday in the Congregational churc4, Winnetka. He had been a Winnetka resident for forty years and also maintained a home ..Mr. McAdams leaves his wife, Marguerite Bowman McAdams; a son, William D. ... three daughters, Joan A. McAdams, Mrs. IVarilyn Barton and Mrs. Marguerite Borregaard...
1966, Hasty legally changes his name to Hastings and begins a new life.:
His new brother-in-law, husband of his new wife's sister:
The point is that before Jerome Hastings married the former wife of David H. Blair, Jr. in 1967, David C. Davenport knew Blair and Terry Votichenko because they were married to the Tuttle sisters who were related to Davenport.
Princeton Alumni Weekly - Volume 75 - Page 63
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... with brisk despatches of both offensive and defensive import. On the ground at New Year's 1944 the German Army was still a fire-breathing and only marginally wounded dragon, while Ultra's military detachment was increasingly overtaxed. Here the American recruits were winnowed out over several months of on-the-job schooling until two new senior advisers were chosen, David H. Blair '40 and Curt A. Zimansky "37 (both Lt.-Capt. Infantry). To them and their six British colleagues was entrusted the tensest and most dramatic of enemy communications: the myriad army orders, situation estimates, pending panzer attacks, requests (usually followed by refusals) for retreat authorization, disastrous tank and gun loss reports, promises of reenforcement divisions and their arrival schedules. The messages behind virtually every major occurrence of the war poured The messages behind virtually every major occurrence of the war poured in an endless stream across their desk, until the strangely quiet morning of May 7, 1945, when the last Enigmas in Bohemia went off the air, and the clattering deciphering machines across the hallway at Bletchley followed suit. ... Princeton Alumni Weekly - Volume 75 - Page 64
...Blair retumed to Princeton to pursue a Ph.D. in history, but stopped short in favor of writing on his own. Also caught up as a reservist in the Korean War, he headed the Section of Army Intelligence concerned with the pseudopolice armed forces of the German Democratic Republic at the iciest phase of the Cold War. Back at Princeton again, ....
Princeton Alumni Weekly - Volume 70 - Page 15 - Google Books Result
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1969
.... the son of Adelaide Cannon and David Hunt Blair, Commissioner of Internal ... David served in Anny Intelligence in both the 2nd World War and the Korean War.
Taras Alexander "Terry" Votichenko Obituary: View [B]... - Legacy.com[/B]
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Votichenko, Taras "Terry" Alexander 94, of Paradise Valley passed away on January 16, ... Eisenhower to set up the US military government in newly liberated France. ... After the war, he worked for the OSS as head of the North Africa division.
.....to Tempe, Arizona to teach Philosophy and Psychology at AZ State University.
Princeton Alumni Weekly: Taras A. Votichenko
paw.princeton.edu › PAW Home › Memorials
Apr 27, 2011 Taras A. Votichenko '40 ... Eisenhower to set up the U.S. military government in liberated ... After the war, he headed the OSS in North Africa.
http://www.nytimes.c...-author-71.html
Fredrika Blair-Hastings, Author, 71
Published: July 06, 1990
Fredrika Blair-Hastings, author of a 1986 biography of the dancer Isadora Duncan, died on July 1. She
was 71 years old and lived in Carmel, Calif.
The cause of death was cancer, a family friend, Jeremiah Newton, said.
Born in New York City, Mrs. Blair-Hastings was a graduate of Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville. She
began work on the Duncan biography, titled ''Isadora, Portrait of the Artist as a Woman,'' in the
1950's. During the next decade she produced a dance documentary starring Anna Duncan, Julia Levien and
Hortense Kooluris, all exponents of Duncan dance.
Mrs. Blair-Hastings is survived by her husband, Jerome Hastings, and a sister, Helen Votichenko, of
Scotsdale, Ariz.
Who's who in Entertainment - Volume 1 - Page 59
Who's who in Entertainment - Volume 1 - Page 59
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91602 BLAIR, FREDRIKA TUTTLE HASTINGS, writer: b. Bklyn.. June 22. 1917: d. Frank Wright and Fredericka
Bremer (Staats) Tutile; m. David Hunt Blair Jr.. June 21, 1941 (div. June 1947); m. Jerome Allen
Hastings. BA. Sarah Lawrence Coll., 1939. Ind. writer NYC, 1953 . Author: Isadora: Portrait of the
Artist As a Woman, 1985, preface to The Wanderer by Alain Foumier. 1953; contbr. numerous articles to
mags., newspapers. Vol. tchr. English Com. for Refugee Edn.. NYC. 1941-42: vol. dieticians aide
Halloran Hosp.. SI., NY., 1943-44: vol. tchrs. aide Pub. Sch. 154, NYC. 1963-64. Mem. Authors Guild.
Soc. of of Dance History Scholars. Office: care Curtis Brown Ltd 10 Astor PI New York NY 10003
You do not know me, but I am open to results oriented research. I hope you find this example, thought provoking.
I cannot dismiss that Priscilla and her first cousin, Davenport may have been acting at the direction of the permanent government, of which I am convinced Clifford was a member. His uncle employed James Phelan at the Alton Telegraph during Phelan's first decade in the newspaper business. Who can forget this?:
Who ya gonna call, to while away the hours on the days after, on the first full day of your sudden ascension to POTUS?
Quote:http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/cclifford.htm
...Johnson was hardly in office 24 hours when he called for Clifford. Faced with the sudden and enormous task of running the country after Kennedy's assassination, Johnson talked with Clifford for two hours, then three, then four. It was late in the evening, Clifford remembered, when Lady Bird Johnson entered the Oval Office and reminded her husband, "Just because you're president now doesn't mean you don't have to eat dinner." ...
Priscilla's father died suddenly in 1969. The man who reported him missing to police was a cousin of Allen Dulles.:
https://archive.is/o/esTuB/http://www.ma...lPageId=42
http://archive.is/esTuB
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.