30-07-2015, 07:13 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Zakariyya Ishaq Wrote:Why do you think all of these people are all of a sudden getting in incidents with cops and many getting hurt or killed?
While I agree with you on many points, I think only a very few of the 'recent spate of incidents' were due to any change in public attitude or actions. The police certainly haven't changed one bit and you're correct that they look for any pretense, and are trained to kill on the slightest pretense - more so with non-whites, non-Christian, non-well-off. Only a very few of these incidents, IMHO, are due to the recent attention on these cases. I think this level of executions has loooong been going on; however, now we are finally paying some attention, and more people have the ability to capture what is happening on video. Hundreds of years of witnesses telling similar tales that they witnessed were ignored by the police, media, public, and courts. While playing the game the police want us to play with "yes sir", "sorry sir", "I didn't mean to sir" with a smile and repentant look will save lives - and let one fight another day; there are those who will out of the emotion of the moment, naivete, or standing up on principle will act differently. Police are supposed to be public servants; 'protect and serve' is on almost every police motto. It is a joke. They only protect a small elite, and it is who alone they serve....they have always been a reactionary force of repression and too often needless death in the US. They often harass whoever they hate or like to bully and arrest them knowing that there is a fair chance they'll be convicted and sentenced even if they have done no wrong. They often lie in court and protect other police lies with silence or other lies. I'm American and now living in Europe, and while it differs slightly from country to country, in no European country I can think of where the police are as feared nor as dangerous as in the USA - and by a huge margin!!! In fact, all of Europe has the number of police shootings per year as the USA does in a few weeks...and the population of Europe en toto is larger. Ditto for length of sentences and numbers in prison [which almost always start with a police arrest or harassment that escalated to arrest]. The big criminals are left alone by police and FBI, etc. by and large; while the biggest criminals run the damn country and it is their police, FBI, intelligence/spy agencies, and armies that keep us down. Police forces as they stand now in the USA had much of their start in slave hunter entities. Others were modeled by big companies and capitalists to keep working people in their place. Its a long and sad history, and not about to change soon, sadly. I welcome the recent focus on what has been going on since the beginning. Any change would be welcome, but I fear only cosmetic changes unless the entire structure of the society does.
I appreciate everything you said, but the situation imo should be viewed from another perspective as well as the apparent one, one entirely that is rarely spoken of or understood.
The bottom line is this: It is a tremendous distraction to concentrate on the war against the police, who are lower class people, and the community… it always was and serves to distract from the reality of the elites total dominance of us and their abuse of the people through their economic stranglehold they have exercised.
In other words there is no doubt in my mind that this is an orchestrated device to distract from the real issues. I even will go as far back as the Black Panthers and say that it was likely within the black op (Cointelpro) for the panthers to even have started a war with the police!
These police are nothing but lower class people as we all are and deceived to think that they aren't.
All this police versus the community or police versus the black community is all playing into the Royalists hands
Of course it should be dealt with from a criminal and civil rights viewpoint but I believe it is a designed distraction that is working well to keep the masses away from what's vital in the struggle
The lowly policeman isn't the enemy but as long as they get the people to believe that it serves to protect them and their interests.