23-09-2015, 05:07 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Quote:WOW!!! Some people just don't want to study reality either. This is very disheartening. It was bad enough that the naysayers were so many and calling the "trutheres" names, but to just disappear an entire threat. Brings to mind what they did to Jim D. And as a result lost the brilliance of RCD.
Dawn
EF has a long history of things like this. I had my account terminated before I could even defend myself against false claims [allegedly happening outside of the EF no less] and removed as a moderator at the same instant. Then within hours all 5000 of so of my posts were deleted forever.
Speaking of RCD, who really was brilliant, does anyone know why he requested and obtained permission for the covering on his face. All I remember is Simpson once telling me [back when he and I were friends and in regular contact] that Dunne had 'good reason and approved reason' to hide his face...without the specifics. As it may be a delicate matter for the internet, if anyone knows, kindly PM me as to what you know. Just curious. He was brilliant in his analyses and in his writing style! Most of the better people at EF have left out of disgust or been banned. IMO.
Peter, do you accept that Jim DiEugenio was abused specifically by John Simkin ....... suddenly banned with none of the outlined and expected steps of discipline, and with no
prior warning or hearing (as was I....) by Simkin, unilaterally, and in DiEugenio's case, his posts deleted unilaterally by Simkin, while you were treated quite a bit differently?
My point is that I would have appreciated being afforded the opportunities afforded to you by Simkin, and the support he gave you, as DiEugenio probably also would have. I've
read your description of what happened, leading to the deletion of your posts and your ouster, and although this post I expect will earn me no favors here, I have to tell you I
think you received a "fair shake" compared to the abuse experienced by DiEugnio, EXCEPT FOR WALKER'S UNILATERAL DELETION OF YOUR POSTS.
If you have an interest, I will post support for my take on this, and I assure you I am motivated only in reaction to the many times you've described, and I've read your description
of what happened to you, and also by the striking differences I perceive in the way you were separated from the EF, compared to the way Jim DiEugenio was. I'm saying I believe you
had many options "near the end," options afforded to neither Jim or I. I agree completely that Andy Walker committed a crime against you by deleting your posts, and as in the deletion of DiEugenio's posts, every post of every other EF member in every thread either you or Jim started, were also deleted.
You brought this up, Peter, and I'm sorry to be responding to you, here. Walker's crime against you, aside, and I am no friend or supporter of EF, I believe I can support my take that
you were afforded options you did not take advantage of, and you had an opportunity to mitigate your situation and remain at the EF. DiEugenio was not, nor was I.
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John Simkin Posted 12 March 2010
......I therefore decided to call for another vote on Peter as a moderator. This time, only Evan, Don and myself voted for him to stay......
No comparison, Peter ..... none, as you were afforded input and you were afforded votes, and escalating steps, as well as support during votes neither I nor Jim D. were granted.:
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John Simkin Posted 09 June 2013
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I find I am in complete agreement with Hank's comments and have decided to delete Jim DiEugenio and Tom Scully membership. This is a start of a new regime at the Forum.....
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John Simkin Posted 17 June 2013 -
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Tom Scully and Jim DiEugenio were not removed from this Forum for any individual breach of Forum rules. My decision was based on what I considered a long-term campaign into bullying members into not posting on this forum. .....
Again, Peter, if you are not apoplectic after reading my reaction to your claims, there is much more I can post related to the contrast in our experiences leading to the end of our
respective tenures on the EF. If you can separate what Walker did to you from the rest of the events leading to your exit from the EF, I believe it is clear you were afforded the opportunites to effect a different outcome, and ironically, your description of your separation from the EF is much closer to what actually happened to Jim Di and I, and your experience, aside from the unilateral abuse by Walker, was an experience Jim Di and I could only wish for, in comparison.
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