Online Assassination Forum Resorts to Open Censorship

[Peter Lemkin]

WOW!!! Some people just don't want to study reality either. This is very disheartening. It was bad enough that the naysayers were so many and calling the "trutheres" names, but to just disappear an entire threat. Brings to mind what they did to Jim D. And as a result lost the brilliance of RCD.

Dawn

EF has a long history of things like this. I had my account terminated before I could even defend myself against false claims [allegedly happening outside of the EF no less] and removed as a moderator at the same instant. Then within hours all 5000 of so of my posts were deleted forever.

Speaking of RCD, who really was brilliant, does anyone know why he requested and obtained permission for the covering on his face. All I remember is Simpson once telling me [back when he and I were friends and in regular contact] that Dunne had 'good reason and approved reason' to hide his face...without the specifics. As it may be a delicate matter for the internet, if anyone knows, kindly PM me as to what you know. Just curious. He was brilliant in his analyses and in his writing style! Most of the better people at EF have left out of disgust or been banned. IMO.

Peter, do you accept that Jim DiEugenio was abused specifically by John Simkin ....... suddenly banned with none of the outlined and expected steps of discipline, and with no
prior warning or hearing (as was I....) by Simkin, unilaterally, and in DiEugenio's case, his posts deleted unilaterally by Simkin, while you were treated quite a bit differently?

My point is that I would have appreciated being afforded the opportunities afforded to you by Simkin, and the support he gave you, as DiEugenio probably also would have. I've
read your description of what happened, leading to the deletion of your posts and your ouster, and although this post I expect will earn me no favors here, I have to tell you I
think you received a "fair shake" compared to the abuse experienced by DiEugnio, EXCEPT FOR WALKER'S UNILATERAL DELETION OF YOUR POSTS.

If you have an interest, I will post support for my take on this, and I assure you I am motivated only in reaction to the many times you've described, and I've read your description
of what happened to you, and also by the striking differences I perceive in the way you were separated from the EF, compared to the way Jim DiEugenio was. I'm saying I believe you
had many options "near the end," options afforded to neither Jim or I. I agree completely that Andy Walker committed a crime against you by deleting your posts, and as in the deletion of DiEugenio's posts, every post of every other EF member in every thread either you or Jim started, were also deleted.

You brought this up, Peter, and I'm sorry to be responding to you, here. Walker's crime against you, aside, and I am no friend or supporter of EF, I believe I can support my take that
you were afforded options you did not take advantage of, and you had an opportunity to mitigate your situation and remain at the EF. DiEugenio was not, nor was I.

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John Simkin Posted 12 March 2010

......I therefore decided to call for another vote on Peter as a moderator. This time, only Evan, Don and myself voted for him to stay......

No comparison, Peter ..... none, as you were afforded input and you were afforded votes, and escalating steps, as well as support during votes neither I nor Jim D. were granted.:

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John Simkin Posted 09 June 2013
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I find I am in complete agreement with Hank's comments and have decided to delete Jim DiEugenio and Tom Scully membership. This is a start of a new regime at the Forum.....

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John Simkin Posted 17 June 2013 -
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Tom Scully and Jim DiEugenio were not removed from this Forum for any individual breach of Forum rules. My decision was based on what I considered a long-term campaign into bullying members into not posting on this forum. .....

Again, Peter, if you are not apoplectic after reading my reaction to your claims, there is much more I can post related to the contrast in our experiences leading to the end of our
respective tenures on the EF. If you can separate what Walker did to you from the rest of the events leading to your exit from the EF, I believe it is clear you were afforded the opportunites to effect a different outcome, and ironically, your description of your separation from the EF is much closer to what actually happened to Jim Di and I, and your experience, aside from the unilateral abuse by Walker, was an experience Jim Di and I could only wish for, in comparison.

I don't know the details of your or Jim's exit stage right, only that it happened as to many others. In my case, I was both a moderator of long standing and had been privately close and in regular email contact with Simkin until just before the death of his wife. He and I traded secrets about JFK and other black ops [and who knew what about those things] we wouldn't for one reason or another post on the Forum. When his wife died, he was gone - and to some extent never returned the same man. Before that there were, however, many problems with moderation, moderators who were horribly biased. Many good people have passed through the Tar Pit, but I repeat, most of the best have left in disgust or been summarily removed. The 'vote' doesn't make a difference. There was no way I was going to come out unscathed and the vote process was not in the rules and Simkin had an override vote should it go the wrong way. I was set up by Walker who loathed my political views. It is not a free speech/thought/word site and yes it depends on advertising - or did. The list of those removed or who stomped away is long. It is amazing a few good people still bother to post there, as it is fruitless in the end. Having had all of my post removed was the worst of it. That is just to hurt and censor at the same time. The site has been hacked many times [so we are told anyway] and all the old material is gone due to it [we are told]. The situation there is hopeless, it can not be reformed or saved. IMO. Censoring the posts of those who have labored there is just beyond the pale.