Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Parts 1 and 2 of The Rifle, BYP & Pistol are up at CTKA
#16
David Josephs Wrote:
Drew Phipps Wrote:Part 1 is a very thorough attack on the chain of custody of these bits of paper tying LHO to the gun. One minor quibble, it isn't steel-jacketed ammo, it's copper FMJ. Edit: you're referring to the Walker shooting, my bad.

I'll read part 2 later today.
(Caught the edited version after I had posted... lol. Great minds thinking alike Cheers )

Thanks Drew... the reference to the steel-jacket had to do with the Walker shooting and his being accused*. He'd have to of acquired ammo at some point and we learned that the Walker bullet was steel, not copper jacketed.

The PMO timeline is pretty revealing as well....

Hope you enjoy the BYP piece
DJ


*April 10, 1963 The Walker shooting

Klein's did not send any ammunition with the order as nonewas ordered. Nor did they send a

clip. For Oswald to even be considered a suspect he had toacquire at the very least
ammunition and steel jacketed ammunition at that.

It is a shame that the detectives who wrote the supplementary report on the Walker shooting never elaborated on their pronouncement of the mangled bullet found at the scene being "steel jacketed".

The 30-06 cartridges for the M1 Garand were loaded with a bullet jacketed in an odd three layer bonded combination of brass/steel/brass (it looks like copper but is actually a zinc/copper brass alloy known as gilding metal, roughly 95% copper). If the bullet was mangled as badly as claimed by Walker, it is very likely the centre layer of the jacket was exposed and, if either or both of the detectives were veterans, they might have recognized this as a 30-06 military bullet.

OTOH, Italian military ammo for the Carcano was loaded with bullets jacketed in quite a variety of materials, including steel. The steel jacketed Carcano bullets received a coating of gilding metal or cupro-nickel to keep the steel from corroding. To complicate matters further, the cupro-nickel alloy (also used alone for jacketing bullets) had a very silvery appearance, and could be mistakenly ID'ed as a steel jacket if someone did not know better.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here, there is no record of Oswald ever purchasing ammo for the 6.5mm Carcano but, if he did, how would we know he exclusively bought gilding metal jacketed ammo made by the Western Cartridge Company? Was the bullet found at the Walker residence a steel or cupro-nickel jacketed Italian military surplus Carcano bullet?

In their eagerness to convict Oswald, did the DPD discard the real Walker bullet because it did not match the WCC ammo?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Parts 1 and 2 of The Rifle, BYP & Pistol are up at CTKA - by Bob Prudhomme - 30-09-2015, 07:28 PM

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Proof the CE 139 Rifle did not kill JFK Gil Jesus 0 1,500 28-11-2022, 11:30 AM
Last Post: Gil Jesus
  The length of the rifle in the BYP? Jim DiEugenio 4 5,843 01-01-2020, 03:26 PM
Last Post: David Josephs
  The End of CTKA, but the beginning of.... Jim DiEugenio 18 20,721 21-09-2017, 09:58 PM
Last Post: George Klees
  Suppressor (Silencer) Fitted Rifle in the Dal-Tex Building? Bob Prudhomme 5 6,602 16-05-2016, 03:43 AM
Last Post: Drew Phipps
  Malcolm Blunt Conversation, Parts 3 and 4 Alan Dale 2 6,522 28-04-2016, 07:35 AM
Last Post: Alan Dale
  Exposing the Phony Rifle Purchase of C2766 Jim DiEugenio 18 15,597 26-02-2016, 10:17 PM
Last Post: David Josephs
  The rifle allegedly purchased with the postal money order by Oswald is a forgery. Scott Kaiser 0 3,361 24-02-2016, 09:46 PM
Last Post: Scott Kaiser
  John Armstrong blasts the mail order rifle "evidence" Jim Hargrove 30 23,429 23-02-2016, 06:10 AM
Last Post: Albert Doyle
  Ruth Paine claims she heard March 20 as purchase date of rifle on the news 11/23 - really? David Josephs 4 5,815 29-07-2015, 02:11 AM
Last Post: Drew Phipps
  Where did the Carcano clip come from and who put it back in the rifle Alan Denholm 14 11,798 24-07-2015, 10:11 PM
Last Post: Drew Phipps

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)