FBI's Pants on Fire!

[Tom Scully]

Let us see if one of the attorney reading here will vouch for your method of challenging the official record

a. Since whatever you guys are arguing about now didn't occur in a legal proceeding, it is unlikely that I or any attorney can offer you an opinion any more useful than anyone else, one way or another.

b. I don't truly understand what the dispute is here. Are you guys arguing about whether the money order was cashed/processed? (since there's no bank stamps, best evidence is "no," and I'd suggest the burden of proving that they were processed falls on the camp that says so, and I'm not convinced). Are you arguing about whether these witnesses actually existed? ( I'd defer to Tom's obvious genealogical expertise here.)

The bottom line (for me) is that the FBI and the Warren Commission basically wrote words into the witnesses' mouths anyways. Bob is right. To paraphrase from a film of that alleged moon-landing forger Stanley Kubrick, "It's full of lies!"

Thanks for the quick response, Drew. Here is an attorney who takes the opposing view, to yours, posted in the last few hours.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....9&p=320870
Lance Payette
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If the Post Office had a concern with the Klein's PMO in 1963, the PMO would have been located via the File Locator Number - which, following the assassination, it was. The "Pay to the order of the First National Bank of Chicago" endorsement, the File Locator Number and the fact that the PMO was located after the assassination precisely where it should have been, in the Federal Records Center, constitutes pretty much the ironclad proof that it was "processed by the US banking system." To preserve the conspiracy theory requires a cast of "creating the fake File Locator Number conspirators" and "placing the PMO within the Federal Records Center conspirators"...

His premise is the postal money order, according to an SS report and the initials on the back of the money order of the two relevant
federal officials the author of the SS report described receiving the money order from on the evening of 23 November, was located and recovered where it should have been....I posted and linked postal bulletins pages supporting that contention, no one has provided proof (or even a regulation describing interruption or rejection due to insufficient endorsement) that a postal money order's bank, federal reserve bank, or US Treasurers computer system processing would not be completed or would be interrupted/rejected if an endorsement requirement was not met, and an additional consideration complimenting the SS recovery report details is this evidence found and presented by this same attorney, Lance Payette.
You can read about the file locator number displayed on the front of this claimed paid $21.45 money order said to be found in the federal records center in Alexandria, VA by Robert H Jackson, at this link,
http://jfk.education/node/13 , or in Lance's original posts.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....9&p=319002
Lance Payette - Posted 18 November 2015 - 09:38 PM

OK, one more. This may solve the ten digits at the top of the Klein's money order. It appears that they are the "File Locator Number" placed by the Treasury Department, which would seemingly be a pretty definite indication that the money order was processed.

I found on the website of the Computer History Museum a 1966 paper entitled "The Check Payment and Reconciliation Program of the U.S. Treasury: Present Status and Future Prospects" by George F. Stickney of the Treasury Department. It can be located here: https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceeding...680479.pdf


Five pages into the paper (page 483), the author explains what a "File Locator Number" is and provides a specimen Treasury check with the File Locator Number highlighted. The digits and location appear to be identical to the Klein's money order. .....

Paid postal money orders were destroyed per statute, two years after fiscal
year of payment. They are exceedingly rare. No one has presented one. This is an image of an unpaid one, purchased in 1963 by a collector. Note the absence of the file locator number.:

from: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....7&p=318833


Drew,
Doesn't it come down to whether, despite much recent presentation
of evidence, the suspicions and theories of D. Josephs, J. Hargrove, J. DiEugenio, and J. Armstrong comprise a well formed argument credibly challenging the core assertion by the Secret Service agent who filed this report?:
[URL="http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490&relPageId=120&search=alexandria_and%20jackson"]http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490&relPageId=120&search=alexandria_and%20jackson

[/URL]The SS report linked above is supported by this.:


David Joseph offers a document with an error describing a third person (Secret Service) reporting that the money order was recovered at the Kansas City, MO postal money order center. I've posted much evidence showing this to be irrelevant since no money order sold in Dallas from January 5, 1963, onward, was designed or intended for processing and archiving in Kansas City. I also showed one source ( link ) stating the Kansas City postal money order center closed on Dec., 1, 1963.

From my last post: (see lower right)
http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/PDF/Vol...20order%22