The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313

[David Josephs]

Now isn't 207 chosen as the first frame from which a 6th floor shot could clear the tree and hit it's target?

Could be. Do you believe that West acquiesced to this? LIKE SO MANY OTHERS WEST PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THE FBI/SS/LIFE TELLS HIM WHERE IT HIT AND DOES THE THE SURVEY FOR THAT POINT WHEN THE FBI ASKED HIM TO REMOVE A SHOT - PURVIS SAYS HE SAID HE JUST DID AS THEY ASKED.

Yet NPIC notes show us LIFE thought #1 was at 190. NPIC said 206 or 213 and NPIC, Dino, questioned how #1 AND #2 were determined

I still believe the 190 location is based partly/completely on the Breneman error. 206 is close enough. Do you know what frames Dino determined to be shots?
I THINK THE NPIC NOTES ON THE SHOT FRAMES ARE HIS - HE SAID 6-8 SHOTS FROM 3 DIRECTIONS WITH 206, 213, & 242 THE "OTHER POSSIBILITIES" FOR FRAMES WITH SHOTS EXCEPT I DONT SEE SHOTS ON THOSE EXTANT FRAMES

In neither NPIC assumption do we have enough time to reload and fire...

Couldn't agree more. Take a shot before the Stemmons sign and one behind and/or after, compress, and have it occur behind the Stemmons sign at Station# 3+81.3 (so labeled as shot#1 on the SS/FBI plat) whereas the WC couldn't determine exactly where the first shot/s occurred, how convenient.

NPIC seems pretty sure that 242 shows a shot... below is the collage of all these frames.

Do you think this NPIC viewing of the film shows 313 as seen in Moorman/Zap or is further down Elm as described by Altgens?

If you look at the stabilized gif I supplied (earlier in thread) of Altgens in the extant Zfilm around z340-357, at some point his description (camera almost at eye level) in this current video link describes it. Did Altgens see the Zfilm at some point prior to his WC testimony, or the 1967 video?

http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/OMaACn4b/file.html

chris

I DONT KNOW IF ALTGENS SAW THE FILM - I DOUBT IT.

I do have a couple anomalies if you can help me understand

1) will shadow move to such an extreme angle in such a short distance off center?





2) SPEAKING OF ALTGENS - SAW THIS IN A VIDEO AND HAD TO SEE FOR MYSELF

ON Z351 & Z353 IT APPEARS THAT ALTGENS SHADOW ON THE CURB IS REVERSED.

Altgens in the extant Zfilm around z340-357, So Chris - can you tell me if this is a real thing or not?

from 351 - 354 it looks as if his leg shadows flip-flop... right thru the spot Altgens claims JFK would have been hit by a shot.

What are we seeing here?