Heads Up!

[David Josephs]

The short answer is the FBI and SS were in control of the evidence - all the evidence - and it didn't matter where Oswald was, who might have seen him (think Carolyn Arnold) and what they actually said... the evidence was going to point to Oswald regardless. The fact that 50+ years later we still cannot say who shot JFK appears to me that the elaborate, well-orchestrated conspiracy has yet to be cracked other than to prove Oswald could not have done it.

But photographs are a different matter. Look at the trouble the Altgens photo caused. No one could control it being published by the AP 30 minutes later. Lovelady is far enough in the background, and the image is fuzzy enough, that people are still arguing about it. What if Oswald had been right on Elm St, photographed as clear and sharp as some of the women you can see in those photos?

As I've posted in the past - if someone ran up to the limo and hit JFK in the head with a bat - the EVIDENCE still would have been Oswald in the TSBD with the rifle. It's 1963 - You gonna believe the FBI or your lying eyes?

Umm...no. There are limits. Most Americans did not accept the official story, and the Lovelady photo was a major early talking point for the first generation of critics. If they'd tried to tell us that Oswald shot himself, after everyone saw Ruby shoot him on TV, how many people would have believed it? Do you think J. Edgar Hoover had godlike powers?

Tracy -

Only a slight bit of sarcasm in my statement... what again has accepting the evidence or not have to do with what the Evidence says?

I've been picking apart the Evidence for years and years... it says that Oswald did it, from the 6th floor with a rifle on his own. Period.

In 1963? you bet your ass Hoover had Godlike power - over his fiefdom while pushing out the boundaries as often as possible.
You seem to forget he initiated the first non-military intelligence organization to cover the Western Hemisphere...

He had as many people in Mexico as the CIA... and had more in every major city south of Texas.

He created, out of thin air, all the Mexico trip evidence which attempts to prove Oswald took a bus to and from Mexico City, when that never happened.

Bottom line Tracy - if we can't SEE Oswald clearly in those frames, we cannot conclude anything about who it is. But we can see problems with that area.

My question remains... Where is Wesley's head above the rest in Altgens or Weigman - during the assassination and why would he claim Shelley and Lovelady were below him on the stairs when Lovelady is in Wesley's position in Weigman and is somehow on those lower steps again in Martin.

With every day we find statements of those on those steps not being corroborated by the images. The last Shelley and Lovelady say is they are inside the back door after the RR tracks.

How is that Lovelady in Martin and Hughes if he was inside on the first floor all that time?

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Mr. BALL - Did you see any other people on the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, yes; by that time there were more; a few of the guys had come in.
Mr. BALL - And you stayed on the first floor then?
Mr. LOVELADY - I would say 30 minutes. And one of the policemen asked me would I take them up on the sixth floor.