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Heads Up!
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David Josephs Wrote:
Michael Cross Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Michael Cross Wrote:I'm weary of this discussion in general, but I will say this: Unless and until an early generation SCAN of the original film can be obtained, and some researchers are endeavoring to do so, NOTHING can be proven about PM, other than who he isn't, based on the confirmed location of other individuals known to have been in the area.





Mr Cross,

I'm not sure if you are aware that I've already proven Prayer Man can't possibly be Oswald via a direct height comparison in Darnell. If you compare heights between Prayer Man and Frazier in the Darnell frame it is plainly visible that Prayer Man is 6-7 inches shorter than the 6 foot tall Frazier making him 5 foot 5 or 6. Since Oswald was 5 foot 9 this precludes Oswald from being Prayer Man by simple analysis.

I'm not sure why this discussion is not allowed here since it is no different than any other discussion, however if it is arbitrarily disallowed I have proven this against all doubters at MacRae's forum and ROKC was not able to refute it.

I'd be glad to discuss this over there if you like.

Sigh. So you were somehow able to render exact measurements for every person, step and architectural feature present in the frame, in the required three dimensions, from a tiny amount of poorly rendered digital information? Amazing. Or did you travel back in time and place laser measuring devices on site to allow for such precise information?

No, I won't be joining you elsewhere to discuss any of the "research" done on the tiny two dimensional Darnell frame. Ever.

Exactly Albert...

Which Photogammetry software did you use on this 2d representation of 3d space to arrive at accurate data?

And one final note - the ACTUAL SIZE of this frame and PM within this frame - it is from these crystals that you are concluding what you are...
Wesley is by the front of the landing and PM is near the back - this creates perspective distortion multiplied by the focal length of the lens.

Look at the image at the bottom to see how that works - for now, this image represents a single frame from a film having 3.5mm x 4.8 mm sized

The "Actual Size Negative" gives you some idea of the size of the frame and then within that tiny frame PM occupies a tiny fraction of the image.

For as small as it is, the detail is amazing... but any other work on this image needs more math than you're bringing to the table Albert.

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8148&stc=1]



Ferrie on the left is not 2 feet larger than Oswald - cameras play tricks... you can't eyeball the image and claim Wesley is X # of inches taller - you need photogammetry

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=8149&stc=1]

Well said, Mr. Josephs, an apt analogy sir; no great surprise considering the source.


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Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 20-02-2016, 10:45 PM
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Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 12:08 AM
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