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[Michael Cross]

On the contrary, Mr. Doyle, your height "evidence" is built upon quicksand

You've been invited to show so. Please do so in direct response to the specific facts I listed as I described them.


You got away with this last time. So far you are not answering what I wrote short of saying "quicksand" (I think you've already defaulted).


If you honestly answered what I wrote you would realize 1) There is no getting around the fact Prayer Man is in the same arc curve as Frazier in distance from Darnell's camera. Therefore there's no excuse for not making a direct height comparison between the two. 2) There's no getting around the fact there's a 6-7 inch difference in height between the two subjects. Use the aluminum frames behind both subjects as gauges.


You are forcing moot points vs proven facts.

I'm only going to do this once Albert.

Your photographic understanding and analysis is severely flawed. You're using your eyes to judge distance and size in a 2d representation of 3d space.

You are plain and simply - wrong about your conclusions which are based on a severely faulty process... eyeballing.

Maybe you think there's "no excuse for not making a direct height comparison" but you remain the only one not understanding the concepts of light, lens, focal distance and angles.

I posted the Ferrie/Oswald camp image to show that items at the front of an image cannot be compared to images anywhere else on the image without understanding photogammetry.

No Albert the sun does not revolve around the earth even though it appears that way as the sun moves thru the sky.

You cannot measure distance of any sort - accurately - within a photo - without that math.

That you dont understand the difference between the front or back of something is again, not our fault but your poor understanding and/or application of basic photographic rules.

1) the same arc? where do you get this gobbledee-goop?

Do you understand that higher focal lengths cause more distortion in the image? The greater the distance as well...

When you move Wesley over without a shift in depth you can easily see that he cannot be compared to PM - the depth is wrong and he is distorted when moved next to someone farther away.




2) Since you cannot compare distances and lengths within a photo using 2d analysis you need to understand why you remain so incredibly wrong about the images you are analyzing and coming to conclusions which are completely worthless.

you then write: "Use the aluminum frames behind both subjects as gauges"

Which is yet an even more egregious error in measurement within a photo and yet another version of the topic you butcher terribly.


Albert - we're all terribly sorry that reality and physics, light and 2d representation of 3d space confuses you so that you need to refute facts with tautology and non-sequitur.

If you want to continue to spout nonsense about your measuring skills and techniques - enjoy yourself... if others wish to debate with you about this have at it.

You might as well be pointing out that we will fall off the world when we reach the horizon because ships you visually watch disappear once they cross over.
Astute observation yet similarly incorrect once you have the facts

This post refuted everything Albert asserts. Everything.