18-07-2016, 09:24 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:It clearly was a CIA backed coup.
Dave, come on!....when has the CIA ever backed or fomented a coup?!::
Whoever plotted the coup [such as the CIA and that ilk] will NOT put up with 6-7000 of their best boys being executed or put in prison for life.....I think Sybel is correct and this was just testing the waters for the 'BIG ONE' which will be soon....before people get executed or put in prison and tortured. Sadly, as usual, it is the average Turkish citizen that looses in the end no matter how this plays out. Those that came out into the streets [and many of whom died] did NOT do it for Erdogan, but for Turkey.....
I see on the MSM now they are really playing up the danger of nukes in Turkey and removal of them ASAP. This is the beginning of a very bad series of events....AND this will mean things in Syria will only get worse - yes Turkey played both sides of the 'war', but they were also the only means of access for aide workers and food, etc. All that will soon end. The consequences of this will be HUGE and effect all of NATO and Europe and the World. IMHO.
Could be. I would recommend reading the Wiliam Engdahl Q & A I published on my blog earlier (linked above - scroll t the bottom of the "Regime Change in Turkey" page) which has a different slant to it. Erdogan has made a deal with Russia, Israel and Syria, that's why the US and CIA rushed the coup -- and cocked it up in the process because of rushed planning. And Erdogan knew of it in advance anyway and played it. Erdogan's Turkey seems to be realigning itself away from the US and NATO - hence the cold shoulder he got at the Warsaw Summit earlier in the month that I mentioned earlier in this thread.
Engdahl's view also is that Brexit really has caused a tectonic geopolitical shift and that the EU - the USA's project on the Continent - is now doomed. Speculation by Thierry Meyssan at Voltaire (The Twilight of NATO) suggests that NATO is going to fold and that the UK is slowly and gently realigning itself too, with it's future eyes on China.
Major, major changes are happening around us at an incredibly fast speed. Following Brexit, the whole of British politics has been completely churned and is up in the air. The Labour Party is almost certainly set to split apart - which may not be a bad thing at all, as the neoliberal Blairites will leave and it will turn back to its socialist roots, giving those masses of disenfranchised voters a voice once again. Blair, Brown and others like Neil Kinnock in the New Labour hijack were the tools of the CIA and MI6 (see HERE) anyway, and their day will hopefully soon be done with. Meanwhile, Blair's reputation following the Chilcot Report (to my astonishment) has been shredded to pieces. The entire British press turned on him with a vengeance. The guy is now a pariah in the UK.
We are witnessing amazing changes...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14