24-07-2016, 01:48 PM
The author of that article doesn't think the Russians are still capable of "Stalin-esque" subtlety in their foreign affairs? Stalin was very successful; I suppose that Russian leaders still study Stalin's methods. Russia has a great deal to gain prying Turkey into its camp, economically and militarily. I wouldn't put it past Putin to start a "coup" attempt just so he could "thwart" it and persuade Erdogan that Russia was his friend, and not co-incidentally, make Erdogan more suspicious of the US because they didn't "intercept" some alleged radio messages.
For that matter, I don't trust Erdogan not to have stage-managed the entire recent history of his country in order to benefit (if one is generous about Erdogan's motives) the Turkish nation, or just benefit himself (if one is not). Erdogan plays both sides in the Syria situation. He shoots down a Russian plane, so at the cost of a single Russian fighter plane (the pilot survived) Russia gets to bomb Erdogan's "external enemies" and prevent a "failed state" on Erdogan's borders. Then the blackmail of the EU. Then the bogus "coup." Now Erdogan begins a "reign of terror" against his "internal enemies" which likely results in him becoming a dictator.
Perhaps this is payback for America refusing to stop supporting the Kurds. Perhaps it is payback for NATO forcing Turkey to play both sides. Perhaps it is payback for flooding Turkey with millions of impoverished Syrian refugees. Perhaps Erdogan has been a Russian stooge from the beginning.
What truly baffles me about this situation is that it has received almost 0 airplay in the US media, especially in light of the political contest where the Republicans have a lot to gain by criticizing the incumbent's policies. A US airbase under siege? With nuclear weapons? By a purported ally in NATO? Where the purported ally alleges US involvement in a coup attempt? Nothing to see here, folks...
For that matter, I don't trust Erdogan not to have stage-managed the entire recent history of his country in order to benefit (if one is generous about Erdogan's motives) the Turkish nation, or just benefit himself (if one is not). Erdogan plays both sides in the Syria situation. He shoots down a Russian plane, so at the cost of a single Russian fighter plane (the pilot survived) Russia gets to bomb Erdogan's "external enemies" and prevent a "failed state" on Erdogan's borders. Then the blackmail of the EU. Then the bogus "coup." Now Erdogan begins a "reign of terror" against his "internal enemies" which likely results in him becoming a dictator.
Perhaps this is payback for America refusing to stop supporting the Kurds. Perhaps it is payback for NATO forcing Turkey to play both sides. Perhaps it is payback for flooding Turkey with millions of impoverished Syrian refugees. Perhaps Erdogan has been a Russian stooge from the beginning.
What truly baffles me about this situation is that it has received almost 0 airplay in the US media, especially in light of the political contest where the Republicans have a lot to gain by criticizing the incumbent's policies. A US airbase under siege? With nuclear weapons? By a purported ally in NATO? Where the purported ally alleges US involvement in a coup attempt? Nothing to see here, folks...
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."