01-08-2016, 02:41 PM
I note that Mr. Peter's map and plan to redraw the Middle-east date back to 2006, the GW Bush years. I strongly suspect that there are earlier such plans, based on Gen. Wesley Clark's story of "7 countries in 5 years" planning documents in the 2001 Pentagon. I doubt that Erdogan was unaware of such stories until 2016.
As far as the fast-tracking of Gulenist army officers, that strikes me as more of a motive for Erdogan to fake a "coup attempt" and giving him cassis belli to arrest them, than an actual "coup" (at least at the current time). Maybe the US had plans eventually to replace Erdogan loyalists with Gulen loyalists. (Maybe they didn't, and it just so happens that the more well educated officers did better than the less well educated ones.) That still strikes me as grounds for Erdogan to move presumptively against them, rather than wait for whatever they may have planned to occur in the fullness of time.
It seems to be true that the US has always been willing to sacrifice the Kurdish desire for self determination (and there are likely other such examples) for its own economic interests. I doubt that will be different this time around.
As far as the fast-tracking of Gulenist army officers, that strikes me as more of a motive for Erdogan to fake a "coup attempt" and giving him cassis belli to arrest them, than an actual "coup" (at least at the current time). Maybe the US had plans eventually to replace Erdogan loyalists with Gulen loyalists. (Maybe they didn't, and it just so happens that the more well educated officers did better than the less well educated ones.) That still strikes me as grounds for Erdogan to move presumptively against them, rather than wait for whatever they may have planned to occur in the fullness of time.
It seems to be true that the US has always been willing to sacrifice the Kurdish desire for self determination (and there are likely other such examples) for its own economic interests. I doubt that will be different this time around.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."