17-10-2016, 07:32 PM
Tom Scully Wrote:Jim Hargrove Wrote:..............
......reality under the rug within hours of the hit was simply breathtaking and unnatural. What do you think?
I think it is impossible to determine what is irrelevant coincidence vs. what is germaine, as in this example, and a further grave concern is not knowing what I don't know, and I work at knowing more than the average student of the JFK Assassination.:
Quote:http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Rec...98/98c.pdf
.pdf pg. 3:
A photograph of JOHN CAESAR GROSSI,
also known as JACK LESLIE BOWEN,
Federal Bureau of Investigation, Identificatiiii -
Number 3,96J,794, was obtained from Wheat Photo Studios, Bryan
Street at Peak, Dallas, Texas, on June 21, 1956, by SA iAT A.
PINESTON, the photograph hiiing been made in April, 1956.
On interview July 6, 1956, the following description of
JOHN CAESAR GROSSI
was obtained from observation and questioning:
......
also known as
Jack Leslie Bowen
........
...Wife Lucille RYDER BOWER (now pregnant).
Quote:https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bbirth_year%3A1956-1957~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Alucille~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Aryder~
Glenn Lewis Bowen
Texas Birth Index
Name Glenn Lewis Bowen
Event Type Birth
Event Date 11 Oct 1956
Event Place Dallas, Texas
Gender Male
Father's Name Jack Leslie Bowen
Mother's Name Fleta Lucille Ryder http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi...d=29053767
Oswald's alleged library card.:
http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/m...1/med_res/
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...h=mantooth
The Oregonian, December 14, 1957
1970.... Bowen/Grossi aka Roy Lee Mantooth...
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...5&tab=page
I accept that it was easy for Bowen / Grossi to obtain Mantooth's ID, but why use the ID of an ex-con?
The arrest record of Roy Lee Mantooth begins in 1940 when Bowen/Grossi was 13 years old.
I expect the Mantooth arrests in the 1960's were actually Bowen/Grossi impersonating Mantooth
(I could be wrong about some 1960's arrests)...
Mantooth's arrests, 1940 to 1948:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...4&tab=page
1949 to 1951:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...5&tab=page
1953 to 1957:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...6&tab=page
1957 to 1967:
[URL="https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=137474&search=mantooth#relPageId=67&tab=page"]https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=137474&search=mantooth#relPageId=67&tab=page
In 1970, the FBI seems not to understand that Bowen/Grossi, now aka Bolen, is described as paying child support by
Roy Lee Mantooth in the form of a stolen camper trailer. The point is that 7 years after the assassination, Bowen/Grossi was
still in contact with Dial Ryder's sister and her husband Roy Lee Mantooth.
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In response to the question asked in the OP, my hunch is that those most involved in making the assassinations of JFK and Oswald and the subsequent cover up happen, involved these people, and those in my "sig" below. Follow the money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_E._...ontroversy
Quote:http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/O...958771.php
ON ECONOMICS: -- How Kennedy Assassination Affected Some Stock Prices
JONATHAN MARSHALL Published 4:00 am, Monday, November 18, 1996
.....................
Quote:Wedding Bells for Robert McNamara (washingtonpost.com)
www.washingtonpost.com › Print Edition › Style
The Washington Post
Sep 8, 2004 - McNamara will wed his Italian-born sweetheart, Diana Masieri Byfield, next week in a ceremony in Italy. This is the second marriage for both.
.....to Ernest Byfield, a former OSS officer and public relations executive.
Quote:Remembering Roger Ebert's Record of Integrity and Courage vs. Kupcinet's Towing the Line
Submitted by Tom Scully on Sat, 04/06/2013 - 15:52
Irv Kupcinet and Roger Ebert were columnists at the Chicago Sun-Times with overlapping careers of nearly 20 years. Ebert considered Kupcinet a close friend, despite this disconnect.:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/kup...oid=881114 ( Kupcinet's conflicted "background": http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....opic=16754 )
Kup vs. JFK - Chronicle of a Columnist's Obsession - By Jim Kielty - Year In Review archives » December 24, 1992
In an essay on the Oliver Stone film JFK, published a month after his laudatory review in the Sun-Times, Roger Ebert wrote: "Never in my years as a newspaperman have I seen one subject pummeled so mercilessly and joylessly as this movie that questions the official wisdom on the assassination of John F. Kennedy."
Ebert didn't have to look far to find the chief Chicago-area pummeler: his Sun-Times colleague Irv Kupcinet has repeatedly used his column to flail JFK, Oliver Stone, and anyone else who has dared to challenge the findings of the Warren Commission report.....
Am re-reading this again. Thanks, Tom.