07-11-2016, 01:22 AM
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David Guyatt Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:Hilarious!
How long has the US of A provided arms to Saudi Arabia?
Decades and decades.
How long have the Saudis and their Gulf allies financed extremist groups like Al Q and ISIS?
Decades and decades.
But the Clinton Deranged think it all started with Hillary and the Clinton Foundation?
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As usual Cliff, you designedly miss the central point that Assange and Pilger made --- utterly blinded as you are by your singular hard-wired partisan perspective.
The USA arms the Saudis. Check.
The Saudis arm Al Q and ISIS. Check.
Care to break out of your own hard-wired partisan perspective and tell me what I'm missing?
Let me take that little laughing jester you placed above and put it here:
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You are aware that I'm English and can't vote in America aren't you, Cliff?
So?
You are aware that I find both both parties equally bloody awful, both wholly, bought and paid for liars, cheats and crooks who only represent the interests of the 1% and big business?
I'm aware of all the hackneyed cliches about American politics, yes.
You are aware - because I've stated it a number of times - that I have refused to vote in political elections for the best part of 40 years over here in Blighty. The reason is that here in the UK we are likewise beset by crooked and wholly reprehensible politicians who only represent the values of the 1% and big business.
False equivalencies are to be rejected as readily as false dichotomies.
Here in America if the Democratic grass roots put enough pressure on the corporate Democrats we can get policies that benefit us.
When the grass roots relax the corporatists obey their masters.
We didn't relax on net neutrality, and now its the law.
When Republicans are in power they answer to a different base of folks who have a different agenda which the Dem base finds repugnant.
Why would I want to vote for people like that? Doing so would pollute and contaminate me.
My only choice is to not vote as a protest. I'm saying to them the only thing I can say: I won't play in your rigged game. I see through it for what it is.
So where's my partisan perspective, Cliff?
You've been openly rooting for Trump, sir.
You can't tell the difference between a corporate technocat and a wanna be fascist autocrat?
Other than detesting them all equally for befouling and soiling public office for private gain.
A moral compass is what you might be missing, I think.
I stand against fascism. You not so much.


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