05-10-2009, 10:32 AM
Well I know all the government records of Australians are kept on a data base or two of a foreign private company called 'Iron Mountain'. I never remember saying it was okay for the government to farm out our personal information to a overseas private company. Most people would think that government records are kept by the government.
As for "Report from Iron Mountain", I don't know. It seems to be a hoax since Lewin admitted it here. It would not surprise me in the least if it were true though. The RAND corp has it coming to them and it does seem the way they think (See elsewhere here a post about RAND recommending war/invasion as a way to save the economy). There are other neo-con groups that have the same philosophy and were heavily represented in the Bush administrations. On the other hand it does seem to be the way things do work and if it is a government report it does reflect reality in so many ways. Look at the defense budget. Look at the peace budget. No comparison. I've seen the look on some pollies faces when they think there may be an out break of peace and they just don't look at all happy. War is the perfect consumer industry. A perpetual cycle of destruction using up all that ordnance and resources and humans and then mopping up and moving on to do the same thing some where else. I, personally, think the same economic outcomes can be achieved if we take in each others laundry and with much less mess and destruction. John Kenneth Galbraith would have been the sort of person invited to participate in such a committee and he says he was part of it. One of the giveaways to its status as a hoax is the court case Lewin sued for breach of copyright when the Liberty Lobby published it. Liberty Lobby claimed that as a government document it was public domain. Neither side would disclose the terms of settlement all of which leads me to conclude that it was not a government document and was copyrighted to Lewin and a work of fiction (though based on fact :vroam: ).
So, even if it is not true it is definitely a case of art imitating life. :bebored:
As for "Report from Iron Mountain", I don't know. It seems to be a hoax since Lewin admitted it here. It would not surprise me in the least if it were true though. The RAND corp has it coming to them and it does seem the way they think (See elsewhere here a post about RAND recommending war/invasion as a way to save the economy). There are other neo-con groups that have the same philosophy and were heavily represented in the Bush administrations. On the other hand it does seem to be the way things do work and if it is a government report it does reflect reality in so many ways. Look at the defense budget. Look at the peace budget. No comparison. I've seen the look on some pollies faces when they think there may be an out break of peace and they just don't look at all happy. War is the perfect consumer industry. A perpetual cycle of destruction using up all that ordnance and resources and humans and then mopping up and moving on to do the same thing some where else. I, personally, think the same economic outcomes can be achieved if we take in each others laundry and with much less mess and destruction. John Kenneth Galbraith would have been the sort of person invited to participate in such a committee and he says he was part of it. One of the giveaways to its status as a hoax is the court case Lewin sued for breach of copyright when the Liberty Lobby published it. Liberty Lobby claimed that as a government document it was public domain. Neither side would disclose the terms of settlement all of which leads me to conclude that it was not a government document and was copyrighted to Lewin and a work of fiction (though based on fact :vroam: ).
So, even if it is not true it is definitely a case of art imitating life. :bebored:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.