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Holmes' Testimony
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Alan Ford Wrote:A fair challenge here, Mr. Trotter, IF you feel strongly enough about introducing the notion of a stop-watch into this debate, perhaps you can demonstrate for those reading along here a definitive timeline as oppose to generic references to a stop-watch. I await your decision, indecision, or outright refusal. It's your choice.

As we await your definitive stop-watch timeline, hopefully--in fairness & truth-- it begins with Baker's motorcycle 60-90 feet away from the corner of Elm & Houston, and ends at the precise time your stop-watch puts them on the scene of their initial engagement of the locked roof.

Then perhaps you can explain how Roy Truly uses his trusty key to that lock, and somehow was able to re-lock the same while on the other side :Confusedhock::

explaining Why, and How, he took such an action would be just as interesting, care to humour us?

I caution you though, that IF you do decide to share irrefutable stop-watch specifics here, don't forget I still have in reserve five (5) others who found the roof also inaccessible. Three (3) of them, as was the case w/Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman, was also right on the heels of the tall-tale tandem. Hint. One of them even experienced a power outage when riding a freight elevator, which places him even closer to the unfolding action. The other Two (2) --not necessarily on the heels but w/pertinent information regarding the LOCKED roof--will add an exclamation point upon the LOCKED roof as well.

Just so we are clear here, I personally don't believe any stop-watches ultilied, err, utilized by the WC in order to hone in on establishing the "truth" of a hastily contrived script concocted to frame an innocent party; however, though I'm adopting a Missouri (The Show Me State attitude), go ahead, make your stop-watch case. Will it stand the test of time?

While we await your decision to introduce the irrefutable evidence of your stop-watch, Am just wondering aloud why Roy Truly was over in the sniper's nest before the authorities ---->

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

As per a timed re-enactment on March 20, 1964, DPD MotorcyclePatrolOfficer MarrionLewisBaker reached the TSBD Building entrance fifteen seconds after the simulated shot.

[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m2.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m2.htm


I tend to wonder, as I wander, if AlanFord can deal with the March 20, 1964 re-enactment establishing OfficerBaker's "fifteen seconds after the simulated shot" arrival at the entrance doorway at the TSBD Building, instead of demanding additional stopwatch evidence for other occurrences associated with November 22, 1963? Possibly, he can present stopwatch evidence to back up his timing assertions that contradict eyewitnesses and investigators' sworn statements/testimony. Can he?

Just maybe, AlanFord can present evidence, aside from calling eyewitnesses to the assassination "liars", as well as calling assassination investigators and/or reaction eyewitnesses "liars". Can he?

Especially, maybe AlanFord can present evidence that the TSBD Building 7th floor roof access door was "locked with a key lock", instead of a hook latch, removable by hand, as testimony indicates. Can he?

Also, maybe AlanFord can present evidence that firmly disputes timing estimates furnished by TSBD BuildingSuperintendent RoySansomTruly, regarding when he returned to the 6th floor, southeast corner. Can he?

And again, maybe AlanFord can present evidence that DCS Deputy JohnW Wiseman moved at superhuman speed on foot, from Houston St near Main St, after the last shot, go across "the park" to see DPD Motorcycle Officer BobbyHargis having difficulty with his motorcycle, on the south side of Elm St, then speak to a man on the ground, and then speak with AbrahamZapruter's Assistant MarilynSitzman concerning the origin of the shots, then proceed to the TSBD, fka TheSextonBuilding, enter the building, question a lady about the number of doors to the building, then leave the building to find additional officers to assist in a building search, then re-enter the building to begin a search, and be on the heels of OfficerBaker and SuperintendentTruly. Can he?

Links provided if needed:
[/URL]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly2.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ../jfkinf...iseman.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m3.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/hargis.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sitzman.htm


Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch

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Messages In This Thread
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 09-12-2017, 10:54 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 10-12-2017, 01:55 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 10-12-2017, 05:34 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 10-12-2017, 06:53 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-12-2017, 07:41 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 16-12-2017, 04:13 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 17-12-2017, 06:35 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-12-2017, 08:11 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 07:43 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 08:15 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 10-01-2018, 06:59 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 08:48 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 09:42 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 09:46 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 11-01-2018, 06:44 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 11-01-2018, 11:36 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 12-01-2018, 12:21 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-01-2018, 05:36 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-01-2018, 07:01 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 12-01-2018, 08:36 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 14-01-2018, 12:02 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 16-01-2018, 06:07 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 17-01-2018, 02:36 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 17-01-2018, 06:44 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-01-2018, 12:15 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 18-01-2018, 06:25 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-01-2018, 06:35 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 18-01-2018, 07:12 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-01-2018, 07:57 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 19-01-2018, 06:00 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 21-01-2018, 12:43 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 22-01-2018, 06:28 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 22-01-2018, 08:03 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 24-01-2018, 12:05 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 24-01-2018, 05:21 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 25-01-2018, 06:28 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 25-01-2018, 06:59 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 25-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 26-01-2018, 05:48 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 26-01-2018, 10:40 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 29-01-2018, 08:07 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 30-01-2018, 06:20 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 30-01-2018, 08:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 30-01-2018, 10:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 31-01-2018, 12:04 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 31-01-2018, 01:43 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 31-01-2018, 08:37 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 01-02-2018, 10:04 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 02-02-2018, 07:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 03-02-2018, 07:42 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 03-02-2018, 08:36 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 03-02-2018, 11:24 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 05-02-2018, 09:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 05-02-2018, 10:06 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 06-02-2018, 07:25 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 06-02-2018, 11:34 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 07-02-2018, 04:38 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-02-2018, 05:21 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 15-02-2018, 01:41 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 16-02-2018, 12:18 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 16-02-2018, 05:10 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 12-01-2018, 06:09 AM

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