09-06-2018, 01:50 PM
James Lateer Wrote:Having majored in psychology in the 1960's, I am old school on this mind-control issue. The rule of thumb on this type of thing is that if it worked, you would see interest from the scientific community. They would publish about it, it would be tried in various environments.
If you could mind-control someone, then why not mind control them to study in college? Why not mind-control people to be good prisoners in prison and to follow prison rules? The number of applications for mind-control would be endless.
The idea that the CIA has perfected something like that and managed to keep it just for themselves for 50, 60, 70 years just doesn't seem likely.
There is mind control done by advertising agencies to sell products. There is mind-control done by drill sergeants at Fort Benning and Fort Leonard Wood.
But as far as some exotic, hypnosis-based paramilitary type of mind control that is top secret--I just don't buy it. It's like people who claim that they can turn somebody from gay to straight. There can be much discussion of that, but if it were real, then we would all know about it and whether it worked.
Until mind-control gets into published scientific sources like Scientific American or Psychology Today, it seems like there are better topics to pursue--like NATO, international relations and the National Security State. Those things can keep us all busy for years and years.
James Lateer
Sorry, you are way way off base on mind-control and how far it was developed under MK/ULTRA and other projects before and after. Sirhan is a perfect example of how sophisticated it had become by then and it has surely advanced since. You are so far from what is state of the art on this, I don't feel like taking the time fill you in. You might start with the basic text here https://archive.org/details/OperationMin...ersEdition - but there are many other texts and papers that take it to a more modern point and relate it to actual operations and patsies, et al.
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