What the Saudis [our good 'friends' of the National Security State] got up to in Turkey

[Peter Lemkin]

There have been these and other abductions from Europe and other places and these are also known the European authorities but they have not garnered the same response as has Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance. So some thing special afoot about Khashoggi. Apparently he had also bought a property there and was also going to be setting up some sort of organisation.

There was a report I read somewhere that Khashoggi was a CIA guy. If true maybe that was what caused this unusual reaction? That and the fact that Trump has aligned so closely with Mohammed Bone Saw and taking the latter down hurts Trump too.

The serpentine and cynical twists of foreign policy and political in-fighting...

Khashoggi is a long time CIA guy. He was a main go between for their other asset Osama Bin Laden. His cover was journalism. There are many serpentine twists and turns in this and I recommend keeping an eye on Sibel Edmonds' Twitter feed. And some info above.

While at this time it does seem very very likely that Khashoggi had been in some ways involved in intelligence - certainly at least peripherally with Saudi and U.S. intelligence - this in NO WAY lessens, IMO, the horror of how he was murdered and likely tortured before he was murdered. No one has given even the slightest clue, that I know of, of his involvement in any nasty covert operations. Perhaps he was, or perhaps he was involved on the information gathering / analysis side of things. It does seem sensible that his special 'treatment' by the Saudi government likely had to do with something special he knew and went beyond his journalism and speaking out about his differences with the powers that be in Saudi Arabia. What this might be, we do not know - and again, it does not in my mind, at this time, lessen in any way the horror of his having his fingers cut off while still alive and dismembered within 14 min. of entry into the consulate in Istanbul. I find the man rather sympathetic - from his speeches, writings and even his quest at his age for a new life with a woman and her statements that he was very lonely in life. As much as I do not like the CIA nor, for that matter, Saudi 'intelligence' or any covert agency anywhere, there are some few who work in those organizations who are not total miscreants. Some have some morality and leave eventually for that reason. Perhaps he was coming out of the cold and was killed for that....I don't think we can speculate at this time about what he was or was not involved in. I think his journalism, while perhaps a 'cover' was also genuine - just my take. He wrote what he really felt and while a mild critic of Saudi, was not a major critic. He had been all of his life quite close to the center of power in the Kingdom - a very weird place where summary execution, rendition and torture are common, if little talked about. I would like to know more about what he was involved in covertly at different parts of his life and why exactly he was so feared by the current ruler of Saudi. Saudi Arabia has a LOT more to answer for than the murder of Khashoggi - the list too long to list here....from funding terrorism [including 911], to fomenting wars [including the genocide in Yemen], to suppressing its own people - especially the women, to overthrow of governments [for example in Egypt], and more - much much more. They are an evil entity with lots of money and a highly effective and well-connected covert service. They are a general and large negative on the Planet and that they saw Khashoggi as their enemy, may [may] lift him up somewhat ethically. Time will tell.......I hope. It seems that the Turkish intelligence agencies have known from day one exactly what happened [minus where the body is now] - and are using this to pressure the Saudis into telling the truth. They have gotten a little progress there, but they are also, IMO, fishing for a secret deal [perhaps money or some political accommodation] for which they would drop the matter. I hope not, but fear that could happen.