17-09-2019, 09:48 AM
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:Tom, you are still going a bit too fast for my taste, but I am sure we can soon start the real conversation.
Before I give you and everybody my understanding of Assange and Manafort, I want to clarify some formalities.
1. Everybody, including the NSA is allowed to listen to and permanently record this conversation.
2. Everybody who broadly conforms to the Forum rules may join or leave the conversation at any time or start another conversation
3. I do my best not to leave the conversation permanently without notice, since I am genuinely interested in it
4. Timing is not very important on this issue, whether I take a minute, or an hour, or a day to respond, may depend on the other things I do in my life.
5. For listeners not speaking English I could provide a German simultanous translation, since I am a German native speaker. But I do not think that is a good idea, because it takes away from the conversation.
6. You and I are allowed to correct our texts for Spelling or Grammar, but not change the meaning retroactively.
7. If Spelling or Grammar issues remain, that is not important, as long as we get the meaning.
8. If we do not get the meaning of something that is said, we should ask for clarification.
Do You agree with that, or do you find it overly complicated?
Yes. I agree completely. I consider all of your points reasonable. I admit I do sometimes stop participating in forum threads because
of frustration with other participant(s) but I will inform you if I decide to stop replying.
You are saying I am presenting too many details or presenting them too rapidly. I'll end this with the last quote box in my last post on
the prior page.
Quote:https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/08/27/re...ical-gain/
REVISITING THE FIRST TIME PRESIDENT TRUMP BLABBED OUT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION FOR POLITICAL GAIN
August 27, 2019/18 Comments/in 2016 Presidential Election, Cybersecurity, emptywheel, Mueller Probe, WikiLeaks /by emptywheel
OCTOBER 25, 2017
...That means Trump probably made the comments as the FBI was preparing a search of Schulte's apartment, the first step the FBI took that would confirm for Schulte that he was the main suspect in the leak. Trump's comments likely aired during the search, before the moment Schulte left his apartment with two passports while the search was ongoing.CIA had had a bit of advanced warning about the leak. In the lead-up to the leaks (at least by February 3), a lawyer representing Julian Assange, Adam Waldman, was trying to use the Vault 7 files to make a deal with the US government, at first offering to mitigate the damage of the release for some vaguely defined safe passage for Assange. The next day, WikiLeaks first hyped the release, presumably as part of an attempt to apply pressure on the US. Shortly thereafter, Waldman started pitching Mark Warner (ranking democrat of US Senate Intelligence Committee) who, with Richard Burr, (republican Chairman of that Senate Committee) could have granted Assange immunity in conjunction with SSCI's investigation). On February 17, Jim Comey told Warner to stop his negotiations, though Waldman would continue to discuss the issue to David Laufman at DOJ even after the initial release. Weeks later, WikiLeaks released the initial dump of files on March 7.
An early WaPo report on the leak (which Schulte googled for its information about what the CIA knew before WikiLeaks published) claimed that CIA's Internal Security had started conducting its own investigation without alerting FBI to the leak (though obviously Comey knew of it by mid-February). The same report quoted a CIA spox downplaying the impact of a leak it now calls "catastrophic."
By March 13, the day the FBI got its first warrant on Schulte, the FBI had focused on Schulte as the primary target of the investigation. They based that focus on the following evidence, which appears to incorporate information from the CIA's own internal investigation, an assessment of the first document dump, and some FBI interviews with his colleagues in the wake of the first release:...
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.